Who do you *want* to win?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

1 hour ago, Not134 said:

Not calling stalling is bad for the sport - Fix is a 3-time finalist and deserves to get one.  Now answer the question.

You don’t deserve to win just because you made the finals. Fix is an admitted PED user.  I answered the question above. Michael Beard.  

[ionel]

125: Owens

133: Oakley

141: Mason

149: Demas

157: Lukez

165: Kim

174: Worthing

184: Carman

197: Urbas

HWT: Stefanik

[ionel]

29 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

You don’t deserve to win just because you made the finals. Fix is an admitted PED user.  I answered the question above. Michael Beard.  

Can you reference the quote where he admitted such?

[Perry]

Beard

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

8 minutes ago, ionel said:

Can you reference the quote where he admitted such?

https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6745189-usada-issues-daton-fix-one-year-suspension-for-failed-anti-doping-test

 

”The panel found that Fix ingested ostarine by drinking from a water bottle, which contained a supplement mixture as well as ostarine that his father had prepared for himself but left in the family’s refrigerator. Fix explained he was unaware that his father had added ostarine to the supplement mixture.”

He never denied that he ingested Ostarine. He simply claimed he grabbed the wrong water bottle and that he didn’t know it contained a PED. Repeat, he never denied that he ingested a PED. 

[peanut]

2 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6745189-usada-issues-daton-fix-one-year-suspension-for-failed-anti-doping-test

 

”The panel found that Fix ingested ostarine by drinking from a water bottle, which contained a supplement mixture as well as ostarine that his father had prepared for himself but left in the family’s refrigerator. Fix explained he was unaware that his father had added ostarine to the supplement mixture.”

He never denied that he ingested Ostarine. He simply claimed he grabbed the wrong water bottle and that he didn’t know it contained a PED. Repeat, he never denied that he ingested a PED. 

First, I don’t know anyone who adds ostarine to their drinks.

Second, if a family member of an ostarine drinker would face repercussions for accidentally drinking it, wouldn’t it make sense to label the ostarine drinks?

[Caveira]

Hawk fan.  Don’t like psu.  Don’t like rby…

I do hope rby beats fix in the finals one more time.   Can’t root for cheaters.  

Edited March 14, 2023 by Caveira

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

28 minutes ago, peanut said:

First, I don’t know anyone who adds ostarine to their drinks.

Second, if a family member of an ostarine drinker would face repercussions for accidentally drinking it, wouldn’t it make sense to label the ostarine drinks?

Maybe he just likes the flavor?

[82bordeaux]

2 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

125 Lee
133 Teske
141 Woods
149 Murin
157 Haines
165 Kennedy
174 Brands
184 Assad
197 Warner
Hwt Cassiopi

I would not be terribly upset to see Medley, Vito, Alirez, Yahya, Gfeller, O'Toole or Griffith, Lewis, Munoz, Beard, and Parris win it all though.

[swoopdown]

I *want* Gary Steen to beat Lee in the finals and win 125.

I know, I know.

Sent from my Pixel 6 Pro using Tapatalk

[ionel]

1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6745189-usada-issues-daton-fix-one-year-suspension-for-failed-anti-doping-test

 

”The panel found that Fix ingested ostarine by drinking from a water bottle, which contained a supplement mixture as well as ostarine that his father had prepared for himself but left in the family’s refrigerator. Fix explained he was unaware that his father had added ostarine to the supplement mixture.”

He never denied that he ingested Ostarine. He simply claimed he grabbed the wrong water bottle and that he didn’t know it contained a PED. Repeat, he never denied that he ingested a PED. 

Thats correct, he didn't deny ingesting Ostarine one time but it is false to say as you did that he is an "admitted PED user," he didn't admit to being a user.    This would be like me saying I'd never want Lee or RBY to win because they've admitted they wrestler for cheater programs.  

[Jasper]

125 spencer lee

133 byrd

141 Cole mathews

149 sasso

157 Ed scott

165 Justin mccoy

174 labriola

184 keck

197 bonacorssi

hvwt parris

[CHROMEBIRD]

2 hours ago, swoopdown said:

I *want* Gary Steen to beat Lee in the finals and win 125.

I know, I know.

Sent from my Pixel 6 Pro using Tapatalk
 

Steen is wrestling at NCAAs??

[Idaho]

3 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Repeat, he never denied that he ingested a PED.

Jimmy preaching denial …. Priceless. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

4 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

You don’t deserve to win just because you made the finals. Fix is an admitted PED user.  I answered the question above. Michael Beard.  

[Not134]

5 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

You don’t deserve to win just because you made the finals. Fix is an admitted PED user.  I answered the question above. Michael Beard.  

I get it, you're a moral authority on PED use.  Okay.  How do you feel about paying bets?

[bnwtwg]

16 hours ago, Gus said:

The all Illinois team?

I want to see the NCAAs look like Fargo

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

14 hours ago, ionel said:

Thats correct, he didn't deny ingesting Ostarine one time but it is false to say as you did that he is an "admitted PED user," he didn't admit to being a user.    This would be like me saying I'd never want Lee or RBY to win because they've admitted they wrestler for cheater programs.  

Semantics. Is “admitted PED ingester” better then?

[jeff9273]

Gopher lineup is first on my list of "wanting" to win.

Otherwise,

Lee

Fix

Hardy

Yianni

Robb

Caliendo

Lewis

Keckeisen

Allred

Hendrickson

[jmoney]

19 hours ago, nhs67 said:

 I think these guys match up very well with their respective and potential '2' seed opponents in their quarters.

Sloan has an impossible road to the finals. He lost to his first round ooponent Hoffman twice, and Cardenas is very solid still. Bonacorssi, Laird, and Truax drew the only easy paths to the 3rd round.

My head is spinning deciding between that Trumble-Elam-Warner section. My gut says Elam v Truax but I'm going to pick Trumble to face Truax. Trumble has beaten more of the elite wrestlers than anyone. He is in the group of 3 to beat Bonaccorsi, the group of 3 to beat Elam, the group of 3 to beat Allred, the group of 5 to beat Braunagel, and the only one to beat Truax. His career resume is impressive. Sloan and Beard, to me, have the most to prove in big matches, which they have tended to fall a bit short in (only when measured against their very generous seeds for this weight class).

 

I'm leaning toward a Bona, Laird, Trumble, Truax semi, and a Bona Trumble final, champion is Bona. But since Trumble has that impossible path I mentioned the safe pick is for a 1v2 Bona v Truax final, which is how I would bet on it! So now you have my thoughts. Bona v Truax in the finals. Now watch two thirds of this be all wrong!

[jackwebster]

Haines. As a coach, I could never prepare my kids to perform their best on the biggest stage. They either would or would not; but, it had nothing to do with any coaching strategy I tried. I am amazed at how Cael and co are able to get their kids to relax. Even the young ones seem to show no fear of making mistakes. I want to see it again.

[Gus]

4 hours ago, jmoney said:

Sloan has an impossible road to the finals. He lost to his first round ooponent Hoffman twice, and Cardenas is very solid still. Bonacorssi, Laird, and Truax drew the only easy paths to the 3rd round.

My head is spinning deciding between that Trumble-Elam-Warner section. My gut says Elam v Truax but I'm going to pick Trumble to face Truax. Trumble has beaten more of the elite wrestlers than anyone. He is in the group of 3 to beat Bonaccorsi, the group of 3 to beat Elam, the group of 3 to beat Allred, the group of 5 to beat Braunagel, and the only one to beat Truax. His career resume is impressive. Sloan and Beard, to me, have the most to prove in big matches, which they have tended to fall a bit short in (only when measured against their very generous seeds for this weight class).

 

I'm leaning toward a Bona, Laird, Trumble, Truax semi, and a Bona Trumble final, champion is Bona. But since Trumble has that impossible path I mentioned the safe pick is for a 1v2 Bona v Truax final, which is how I would bet on it! So now you have my thoughts. Bona v Truax in the finals. Now watch two thirds of this be all wrong!

While Sloan did lose to Hoffman twice last year, he was not exactly the picture of health. He was competing fairly banged up last season. Cardenas did just have a solid win over Beard but has also lost to a 184 pounder (Coleman), Beard & Amos this year. I am biased but I think Sloan gets it done. Drawing Truax out of his quarter is about as favorable as a guy can hope for. 

[Idaho]

Which is worse:

A.  Admitting to using PED - serving your sentence then being clean the rest of the way

OR 

B. Making a bet/s …losing the bet… never paying up … then pretending like it never happened. 

 

[ionel]

17 minutes ago, Idaho said:

Which is worse:

A.  Admitting to using PED - serving your sentence then being clean the rest of the way

OR 

B. Making a bet/s …losing the bet… never paying up … then pretending like it never happened. 

 

or maybe even worse:

C. When the new forum starts up, stealing the identity of the individual who did B on the old forum. 

[Mr. PeanutButter]

125: Spencer Lee

133: Spencer Lee

141: Spencer Lee

149: Real Woods

157: yianni 

165: Carr

174: O'Toole

184: Brooks 

197: Brooks 

285: Spencer Lee