flyingcement Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Byrd has always owned Rasputin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russelscout Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, jajensen09 said: Here's what it comes down to. Brands has always gotten big time recruits because of the Iowa name he inherited. As far as coaching, brands has shown he doesn't make his guys much better. Manning on the other hand, doesn't always get the top recruits but coaches them up. Better coach manning, but recruits Brands. But you do see nebraska has closed the gab and if not leap frogged now and for years to come Guys like McDonough, Borschel, and St John don’t win a title at Nebby. That’s a fact. Iowa destroyed Nebby in the dual, they are beating Nebby in the tourney and you’re talking about the gap being closed? You’re delusional. Edited March 5, 2023 by russelscout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 25 minutes ago, jajensen09 said: Here's what it comes down to. Brands has always gotten big time recruits because of the Iowa name he inherited. As far as coaching, brands has shown he doesn't make his guys much better. Manning on the other hand, doesn't always get the top recruits but coaches them up. Better coach manning, but recruits Brands. But you do see nebraska has closed the gab and if not leap frogged now and for years to come Manning and Nebby got Jordan Burroughs, maybe the best US wrestler of all time, and hasn't coached a champion since then. This is amazing coming on the heels of your dual prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Will Lewan has had three SV wins. One 4-2 loss and one 4-2 win. He wins the "Slow Drying Paint" Award this year. He is the Jason Tsirtsis of Michigan ... except without a NCAA title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 minute ago, SocraTease said: Will Lewan has had three SV wins. One 4-2 loss and one 4-2 win. He wins the "Slow Drying Paint" Award this year. He is the Jason Tsirtsis of Michigan ... except without a NCAA title Nelson Brands finished a close second for the award 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 6 hours ago, TexRef said: Yeah no more guys posing nude and trying to make some money lol Nude college atheletes? There's an NIL for that... (maybe) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, VakAttack said: Manning and Nebby got Jordan Burroughs, maybe the best US wrestler of all time, and hasn't coached a champion since then. This is amazing coming on the heels of your dual prediction. but he was the 52nd ranked recruit at the time... and 7th among 135 pounders i believe manning was THE ONLY DI offer Edited March 5, 2023 by Scouts Honor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VakAttack Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said: but he was the 52nd ranked recruit at the time... and 7th among 135 pounders I agree, but that still doesn't explain the complete absence of champs since Burroughs. Not when you're (not you specifically) comparing Manning to Brands. In general, Manning has been doing a great job, but that's not the conversation we're having. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, VakAttack said: I agree, but that still doesn't explain the complete absence of champs since Burroughs. Not when you're (not you specifically) comparing Manning to Brands. In general, Manning has been doing a great job, but that's not the conversation we're having. you never mention the lack of champs BEFORE burroughs... manning didn't inherit the gable dynasty the conversation is... IOWA has competed well i agree, but have they KEPT UP WITH THE TIMES other than lee, is there another iowa champ since 2010? maybe ramos? since 2005? metcalf ? perry? now again, this is using your metric....success im saying using better wrestling technique... keeping up with the times Edited March 5, 2023 by Scouts Honor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 by the way...what dual prediction did i make i am not jajensen I agree, his head is in the clouds. but his statement that manning has kept up with the times isn't really wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 2023 Big Ten Championships Team Standings Team Score # F # Consi Semi # 3rd-4th # 5th-6th # 7th-8th Max Possible Penn State 129 6 2 2 1 171 Iowa 119.5 3 4 2 2 3 149.5 Nebraska 98.5 5 2 2 134.5 Ohio State 91 2 5 4 1 118 Minnesota 80 2 3 2 1 2 104 Michigan 74.5 1 4 3 1 2 95.5 Northwestern 74.5 7 3 4 95.5 Wisconsin 49.5 1 2 2 2 64.5 Illinois 44.5 3 2 1 1 53.5 Purdue 43 3 1 2 1 52 Rutgers 31 1 1 4 37 Indiana 27 1 1 2 33 Michigan State 27 2 2 1 33 Maryland 23 1 1 1 29 Note: Teams in RED have been mathematically eliminated from the team title race. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 hour ago, russelscout said: Guys like McDonough, Borschel, and St John don’t win a title at Nebby. That’s a fact. Iowa destroyed Nebby in the dual, they are beating Nebby in the tourney and you’re talking about the gap being closed? You’re delusional. JB doesn't win one at Iowa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouts Honor Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, SocraTease said: 2023 Big Ten Championships Team Standings Team Score # F # Consi Semi # 3rd-4th # 5th-6th # 7th-8th Max Possible Penn State 129 6 2 2 1 171 Iowa 119.5 3 4 2 2 3 149.5 Nebraska 98.5 5 2 2 134.5 Ohio State 91 2 5 4 1 118 Minnesota 80 2 3 2 1 2 104 Michigan 74.5 1 4 3 1 2 95.5 Northwestern 74.5 7 3 4 95.5 Wisconsin 49.5 1 2 2 2 64.5 Illinois 44.5 3 2 1 1 53.5 Purdue 43 3 1 2 1 52 Rutgers 31 1 1 4 37 Indiana 27 1 1 2 33 Michigan State 27 2 2 1 33 Maryland 23 1 1 1 29 Note: Teams in RED have been mathematically eliminated from the team title race. i think we lost a point in the wilson amine match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russelscout Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said: JB doesn't win one at Iowa I disagree. I think JB wins one at any Big10 team he goes to…. and hell, his sophomore season he was handled by an Iowa guy who won the title. Face it, Iowa has way more champs and develops champs more consistently than Nebby does. Get over it. Edited March 5, 2023 by russelscout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Tournament Team Scores 2023 Big Ten Championships Team Standings Team Score # F # Consi Semi # 3rd-4th # 5th-6th # 7th-8th Max Possible Penn State 134 6 2 2 1 167 Iowa 130.5 3 4 2 2 3 145.5 Nebraska 98.5 5 2 2 122.5 Ohio State 91 2 5 4 1 112 Minnesota 80 2 3 2 1 2 92 Michigan 75.5 1 4 3 1 2 93.5 Northwestern 74.5 7 3 4 86.5 Wisconsin 51.5 1 2 2 2 60.5 Purdue 47 3 1 2 1 50 Illinois 45.5 3 2 1 1 51.5 Rutgers 32 1 1 4 35 Indiana 27 1 1 2 30 Michigan State 27 2 2 1 30 Maryland 23 1 1 1 29 Note: Teams in RED have been mathematically eliminated from the team title race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 What's the over-under on Lewan's match going to SV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, SocraTease said: What's the over-under on Lewan's match going to SV? I'd be willing to bet that it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Haines is a tough nut. Would be a real challenge for the seeding committee if he pulls this one off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Saldate is a dark horse for nationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 Wow. Levi Haines. Knocks off undefeated #1. What will his seed be at NCAAs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingcement Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 1 minute ago, SocraTease said: Wow. Levi Haines. Knocks off undefeated #1. What will his seed be at NCAAs? Good question and good luck to the seeding committee. That's Robb's only loss and it was on the biggest stage they have had so far this year. Based on that, I could still see O'Connor as 1, Robb as 2, and Haines as 3, with Andonian as 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocraTease Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 The team race is over: Tournament Team Scores 2023 Big Ten Championships Team Standings Team Score # F # Consi Semi # 3rd-4th # 5th-6th # 7th-8th Max Possible Penn State 138 6 2 2 1 162 Iowa 131.5 3 4 2 2 3 137.5 Nebraska 98.5 5 2 2 116.5 Ohio State 98 2 5 4 1 110 Minnesota 80 2 3 2 1 2 86 Michigan 76.5 1 4 3 1 2 88.5 Northwestern 74.5 7 3 4 80.5 Wisconsin 55.5 1 2 2 2 58.5 Purdue 47 3 1 2 1 47 Illinois 45.5 3 2 1 1 51.5 Rutgers 32 1 1 4 35 Indiana 30 1 1 2 30 Michigan State 28 2 2 1 28 Maryland 23 1 1 1 29 Note: Teams in RED have been mathematically eliminated from the team title race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexRef Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 3 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said: Nude college atheletes? There's an NIL for that... (maybe) Yeah, not sure if Manning would be cool with one of his wrestlers getting an NIL deal with a pornographic magazine/website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocBB Posted March 5, 2023 Share Posted March 5, 2023 18 hours ago, WrestlingFan89 said: Sloan has easily majored Allred twice this season, but sure…… he has a shot You were saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1032004 Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/4/2023 at 8:37 PM, flyingcement said: Hamiti has been great this year, but honestly, compared to last year, it was almost a sophomore slump, compared to expectations. This fire he is showing against Kharchla here is something he has not been sustainably doing for the rest of this season. Hope he can keep it up Shocked they didn’t call the pin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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