Predicting Penn State at NCAAs

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

As a dedicated Penn State fan I am very in tune with the Nittany Lions.  Here are my official PRE-BIG 10 predictions for NCAAs.  My predictions likely will change after BIG 10s.

 

125 - Steen/Vespa.  DNQ.  The Curse of Suriano continues for Penn State for the foreseeable future.  It may take another Bo to break it.

133 - RBY, champ.  He takes out Fix for the third time in the finals.  He's looking healthy, almost bored.  Even a prime Desanto could not stop him now.

141 - Bartlett, 5th place.  Hard to believe he only has one loss, but his lack of offensive production will cost him against guys like Woods and Sasso.

149 - SVN, 7th place.  I am more positive on SVN as of late.  He still can struggle on bottom with elite guys and I find his offense still to be a little too straight on.  Low AA seems like best case scenario for him.

157 - Haines, 3rd.  Haines is looking great but I think he can't beat the 5th and 6th year seniors like AOC who are just too strong and experienced.  I think he is a multiple time NCAA champ in his young career though.

165 - Facundo, 5th.  I think he's better than Barlett but 165 is just a minefield.  I think he will benefit from another year of strength and development.  I see him as a 2x champ.

174 - Starocci, 1st.  It won't be pretty but I don't see anyone at 174 taking him out.

184 - Brooks, 2nd.  Probably my most controversial pick.  I think Hidlay takes him out in the finals.

197 - Dean, 2nd.  In a shock, Warner bests him in the finals and gets sweet, sweet revenge.

HWT - Kerk, 1st.  I think he figures out his pacing and takes out Parris in the finals with a smart, controlled match.

 

Penn State wins the team title going away. Iowa takes 2nd.

[jajensen09]

1 minute ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

As a dedicated Penn State fan I am very in tune with the Nittany Lions.  Here are my official PRE-BIG 10 predictions for NCAAs.  My predictions likely will change after BIG 10s.

 

125 - Steen/Vespa.  DNQ.  The Curse of Suriano continues for Penn State for the foreseeable future.  It may take another Bo to break it.

133 - RBY, champ.  He takes out Fix for the third time in the finals.  He's looking healthy, almost bored.  Even a prime Desanto could not stop him now.

141 - Bartlett, 5th place.  Hard to believe he only has one loss, but his lack of offensive production will cost him against guys like Woods and Sasso.

149 - SVN, 7th place.  I am more positive on SVN as of late.  He still can struggle on bottom with elite guys and I find his offense still to be a little too straight on.  Low AA seems like best case scenario for him.

157 - Haines, 3rd.  Haines is looking great but I think he can't beat the 5th and 6th year seniors like AOC who are just too strong and experienced.  I think he is a multiple time NCAA champ in his young career though.

165 - Facundo, 5th.  I think he's better than Barlett but 165 is just a minefield.  I think he will benefit from another year of strength and development.  I see him as a 2x champ.

174 - Starocci, 1st.  It won't be pretty but I don't see anyone at 174 taking him out.

184 - Brooks, 2nd.  Probably my most controversial pick.  I think Hidlay takes him out in the finals.

197 - Dean, 2nd.  In a shock, Warner bests him in the finals and gets sweet, sweet revenge.

HWT - Kerk, 1st.  I think he figures out his pacing and takes out Parris in the finals with a smart, controlled match.

 

Penn State wins the team title going away. Iowa takes 2nd.

So I'd like to throw out a few senerios. Not saying it'll happen  but for fans sake regarding Penn state.

125 No Aa

133 Rby 2nd

141 no AA

149 no AA

157 Haynes 7th

165 No AA

174 starocii gets beat by Lewis in semis.  Finishes 4th

184 Brooks loses to Coleman in semis finishes 4th

197 dean stumbles.  Finishes 4th

Heavy. Kerk gets beat in semis by Schultz or cass.

 

Could this debunk Penn state from title? Not saying this is going to happen. But its possible 

 

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

That is possible, although I feel like that's close to a worst case scenario, barring injuries.

If that happened + Iowa gets champs with Spencer, Woods and Cass, and AA from Teske, Murin, Siebrecht and Kennedy I think they would take 1st.

Edited February 13, 2023 by Jimmy Cinnabon

[jajensen09]

1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

That is possible, although I feel like that's close to a worst case scenario, barring injuries.

If that happened + Iowa gets champs with Spencer, Woods and Cass, and AA from Teske, Murin, Siebrecht and Kennedy I think they would take 1st.

Nebraska has a higher ceiling than iowa

[SocraTease]

"Bartlett, 5th place.  Hard to believe he only has one loss, but his lack of offensive production will cost him against guys like Woods and Sasso."

If Bartlett loses to Sasso, one of the two has to move up or down a weight.  

Obviously, Sasso is ducking Bartlett.  

[ionel]

Thought they were done.  

[cangemi]

125 nq

133 2nd odds fix finally

141 AA

157 AA

165 to tough a weight

174 champ

184 champ

197 4th

Hvy 3rd

 

[ionel]

8 minutes ago, cangemi said:

125 nq

133 2nd odds fix finally

141 AA

157 AA

165 to tough a weight

174 champ

184 champ

197 4th

Hvy 3rd

 

So they've got a chance?  

[flyingcement]

125: DNQ

133: 1st

141: 3rd

149: 7th

157: 5th

165: R12

174: 1st

184: 1st

197: 3rd

285: 2nd

[ionel]

8 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

125: DNQ

133: 1st

141: 3rd

149: 7th

157: 5th

165: R12

174: 1st

184: 1st

197: 3rd

285: 2nd

You've clearly fallen in love with Penn St.  ❤ 

[Jerry Callo]

I think PSU will end up with 9 AA’s - 3 Champs (RBY, Starocci & Brooks) and 2 2nd’s (Brooks & Kerk) and the new kids will place 3-6 ( Bartlett, SVN, Haines & Facundo).  

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

4 minutes ago, Jerry Callo said:

I think PSU will end up with 9 AA’s - 3 Champs (RBY, Starocci & Brooks) and 2 2nd’s (Brooks & Kerk) and the new kids will place 3-6 ( Bartlett, SVN, Haines & Facundo).  

Brooks gets 1st and 2nd?  Impressive.

[ionel]

13 minutes ago, Jerry Callo said:

I think PSU will end up with 9 AA’s - 3 Champs (RBY, Starocci & Brooks) and 2 2nd’s (Brooks & Kerk) and the new kids will place 3-6 ( Bartlett, SVN, Haines & Facundo).  

 

9 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Brooks gets 1st and 2nd?  Impressive.

Proof Carl is still cheating. 

[Gus]

125: DNQ

133: 1st

141: 6th

149: R12

157: 5th

165: R12

174: 1st

184: 1st

197: 5th

285: 1st

[mspart]

3 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

As a dedicated Penn State fan I am very in tune with the Nittany Lions.  Here are my official PRE-BIG 10 predictions for NCAAs.  My predictions likely will change after BIG 10s.

I haven't read this thread yet but just had to add that if your predictions will likely change after Big 10s, then what good are these?

mspart

[mspart]

25 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Brooks gets 1st and 2nd?  Impressive.

That is impressive.   Beats himself in the finals with a 18-2 Tech. 

mspart

[Jerry Callo]

21 minutes ago, ionel said:

 

Proof Carl is still cheating. 

I guess I meant Brooks comes in first and Dean comes in second - 

[1032004]

3 hours ago, jajensen09 said:

So I'd like to throw out a few senerios. Not saying it'll happen  but for fans sake regarding Penn state.

125 No Aa

133 Rby 2nd

141 no AA

149 no AA

157 Haynes 7th

165 No AA

174 starocii gets beat by Lewis in semis.  Finishes 4th

184 Brooks loses to Coleman in semis finishes 4th

197 dean stumbles.  Finishes 4th

Heavy. Kerk gets beat in semis by Schultz or cass.

 

Could this debunk Penn state from title? Not saying this is going to happen. But its possible 

 

Only 1 finalist?  No I don’t think that is possible.

[Wrestleknownothing]

2 hours ago, jajensen09 said:

Nebraska has a higher ceiling than iowa

How do you figure? Iowa is likely to get all 10 guys to the NCAAs whereas Nebraska is unlikely to qualify at heavy and will have a tough time qualifying all of 133, 149, and 165. Nebraska's range is 6 - 9 qualifiers with 8 probably the most likely.

[PortaJohn]

Just now, Wrestleknownothing said:

How do you figure? Iowa is likely to get all 10 guys to the NCAAs whereas Nebraska is unlikely to qualify at heavy and will have a tough time qualifying all of 133, 149, and 165. Nebraska's range is 6 - 9 qualifiers with 8 probably the most likely.

Are we sure Assad is returning?

[Wrestleknownothing]

2 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Are we sure Assad is returning?

I am only sure of taxes. I am pretty sure I can cheat death.

[ionel]

3 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

How do you figure? Iowa is likely to get all 10 guys to the NCAAs whereas Nebraska is unlikely to qualify at heavy and will have a tough time qualifying all of 133, 149, and 165. Nebraska's range is 6 - 9 qualifiers with 8 probably the most likely.

If 10 guys qualify and they all go 0-2, how many points do they score.  Its a data problem. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

2 minutes ago, ionel said:

If 10 guys qualify and they all go 0-2, how many points do they score.  Its a data problem. 

no less than if 6 - 9 qualify and they all go 0-2.

[PortaJohn]

2 minutes ago, ionel said:

If 10 guys qualify and they all go 0-2, how many points do they score.  Its a data problem. 

it's a tricky math problem but here you go 10 guys - 0 victories x2 = 20

[Wrestleknownothing]

3 minutes ago, ionel said:

If 10 guys qualify and they all go 0-2, how many points do they score.  Its a data problem. 

Besides, he was talking upside.