forkemaz Posted October 16 Posted October 16 On 10/15/2026 at 9:58 AM, MPhillips said: I don't believe at all. Not even if the he fumbles the Larkins and they leave after this season because of less than stellar results 2 seasons in a row?
MPhillips Posted October 17 Posted October 17 15 hours ago, forkemaz said: Not even if the he fumbles the Larkins and they leave after this season because of less than stellar results 2 seasons in a row? Presently. .
MoveCountermove Posted October 17 Posted October 17 On 10/15/2026 at 1:00 PM, HoosierWrestlingFan said: regularly having multiple all Americans and a guy with a chance to win a title shouldn’t be asking too much. I think this is what 90% of teams wish they had, and I actually DO think this is asking a bit too much out of the current Indiana program. I can understand the sentiment of wanting them to be there or expecting that they could achieve that, but that club feels so far away from anything resembling that. Like, I would be happy to settle for a consistent 1 AA and several other guys showing improvement and potential; I don't think any Indiana fan is going to have a good time any season soon if they are expecting or desire several AA and a potential finals appearance. 2
The Kid Posted October 17 Posted October 17 17 hours ago, The Kid said: Brad Dillion is Lehigh's coach. It's his first year leading the "Engineers", I mean mountain hawks.
forkemaz Posted October 17 Posted October 17 10 hours ago, MPhillips said: Presently. What about in the aforementioned hypothetical? 1
MPhillips Posted October 18 Posted October 18 3 hours ago, forkemaz said: What about in the aforementioned hypothetical? "As such..." .
forkemaz Posted October 18 Posted October 18 10 hours ago, MPhillips said: "As such..." You're an odd duck 1
ionel Posted October 18 Posted October 18 8 hours ago, forkemaz said: You're an odd buck ... nut ftfy 1 .
Hoyt Matthews Posted October 19 Posted October 19 On 10/17/2026 at 3:14 PM, forkemaz said: What about in the aforementioned hypothetical? ASU was a top 15 team last year and they had the highest GPA in the country for an NCAA Wrestling Team. They are one of the most successful programs on campus. No big scandals. Not sure there is a hot seat there. 2
kschlosser Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) I doubt the Ohio State administration will be heating up tom ryans seat but I think it should already be warm. After twenty years the program is in good shape, accomplishing more under Ryan than every other coach combined. Tom is one of only three active coaches to win a team title. At the same time the program has stagnated since COVID in finishes and in recruiting. If the goal is competing for team titles instead of hanging your hat on individual finalists, the machine should be moving. Pre-covid, Penn State had pulled ahead and has since increased that gap. Oklahoma state appears to have done the same thing even faster. Ohio state needs both to fall flat on their face in a tournament setting or a lot of help from the field to get a trophy as opposed to hoping everything goes right and they get 2-3 wins against a back up or two in a dual setting With Iowa remaining Iowa, Virginia Tech on the rise, and Penn State and Oklahoma State competing for titles, does Ohio State value team titles and team trophies or individual All Americans, an annual finalist, and hoping for fifth? Whether Ryan retires after 30 years as a head coach, gets put on hot seat, or gets pushed out in the near future, the Buckeyes should be looking forward to know if the next guy is already on campus or who they are interested in bringing in. Mess up Ryans replacement and buckeyes might not just get bumped off the stage to fifth but out of the top ten all together. Edited October 19 by kschlosser 1
Fletcher Posted October 19 Posted October 19 Cael should be on the hot seat. Anybody could win 4 NCAA titles with his team. Has he turned a single high school non-state qualifier into an AA? 1
ionel Posted October 19 Posted October 19 34 minutes ago, Fletcher said: Cael should be on the hot seat. Anybody could win 4 NCAA titles with his team. Has he turned a single high school non-state qualifier into an AA? Moreover he refuses to dual the best competition, everybody knows practice should not be fun, and Penn State is not paying him to play and coach dodgeball! Amazing he wasn't fired long ago. .
MPhillips Posted October 19 Posted October 19 12 hours ago, kschlosser said: Whether Ryan retires after 30 years as a head coach, gets put on hot seat, or gets pushed out in the near future, the Buckeyes should be looking forward to know if the next guy is already on campus or who they are interested in bringing in. Ryan is safe and stays as long as he wants and then Jaggers comes in for twenty more yrs of the same. That is exactly how it goes. 2 .
Gene Mills Fan Posted October 19 Posted October 19 (edited) 12 hours ago, Fletcher said: Cael should be on the hot seat. Anybody could win 4 NCAA titles with his team. Has he turned a single high school non-state qualifier into an AA? Are you the modern day; Luther?? Pope Hater!! Edited October 19 by Gene Mills Fan
Gene Mills Fan Posted October 19 Posted October 19 12 hours ago, ionel said: Moreover he refuses to dual the best competition, everybody knows practice should not be fun, and Penn State is not paying him to play and coach dodgeball! Amazing he wasn't fired long ago. And campaign manager?? You got my vote!!
mattramosjr Posted October 19 Posted October 19 On 10/15/2026 at 11:49 AM, Wildcat92 said: Escobedo at IU should be but he won't be. 2 AA's during his 9 seasons, a 6th in '25 and and 8th in '26. He has failed to land the elite, or near elite, in-state talent and what he does get hasn't developed. Case in point, Gabe Sollars. Sollars and Stephen Little traded matches in HS, sollars teched him in freestyle after their senior seasons. Does anybody really thing Sollars would keep it to a regular decision now? Very unlikely. Purdue is getting the talent that doesn't leave the state. Should be concerning for IU, but it won't be. At least Goldman could produce a couple of national champs and frequently had AA's. IU just got some hammers from IN
Wildcat92 Posted October 19 Posted October 19 11 minutes ago, mattramosjr said: IU just got some hammers from IN He's gotten some "hammers" from IN before that haven't developed 1
mattramosjr Posted October 19 Posted October 19 18 minutes ago, Wildcat92 said: He's gotten some "hammers" from IN before that haven't developed Like who? My memory is awful.
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted October 19 Posted October 19 15 hours ago, kschlosser said: At the same time the program has stagnated since COVID in finishes and in recruiting. If the goal is competing for team titles instead of hanging your hat on individual finalists, the machine should be moving. 2022 was an all-time great recruiting class!
Wildcat92 Posted October 19 Posted October 19 3 hours ago, mattramosjr said: Like who? My memory is awful. Moran and Washington took until their last seasons to AA Sollars - Fargo AA and super 32 placer, hasn't developed as quickly as his HS rival stephen little Sam Goin - top 100 recruit out of HS Gavin Jendreas - was top 20 nationally at his weight in HS, still has time Robert Major - fargo AA, never really cracked the lineup Alec Freeman - multiple state placer, never was a regular starter Rooks twins - had some solid wins in their careers but never could reach AA status Asa Garcia - 3x state champ, top 10 nationally in his weight, transferred out Transfers like Orlando Cruz and Logan Frazier - jury is still out on them These guys were all Indiana "hammers" that went to IU and didn't do as well as people hoped/thought they would Then throw in missing out on every single "elite" prospect in Indiana like Mendez, Jake Hockaday, Zeke Seltzer, and Christian Carroll, it should make his seat warm 1
mattramosjr Posted October 19 Posted October 19 9 minutes ago, Wildcat92 said: Moran and Washington took until their last seasons to AA Sollars - Fargo AA and super 32 placer, hasn't developed as quickly as his HS rival stephen little Sam Goin - top 100 recruit out of HS Gavin Jendreas - was top 20 nationally at his weight in HS, still has time Robert Major - fargo AA, never really cracked the lineup Alec Freeman - multiple state placer, never was a regular starter Rooks twins - had some solid wins in their careers but never could reach AA status Asa Garcia - 3x state champ, top 10 nationally in his weight, transferred out Transfers like Orlando Cruz and Logan Frazier - jury is still out on them These guys were all Indiana "hammers" that went to IU and didn't do as well as people hoped/thought they would Then throw in missing out on every single "elite" prospect in Indiana like Mendez, Jake Hockaday, Zeke Seltzer, and Christian Carroll, it should make his seat warm Yeah true I guess, I'm excited what he can do with hornsby. Hornsby is the best recruit indiana has landed in a long time. Also landed top 15 HWT William Glesing.
Wildcat92 Posted October 19 Posted October 19 I seriously hope it works out, but the history makes me have doubts.
kschlosser Posted October 20 Posted October 20 On 10/19/2026 at 11:28 AM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said: 2022 was an all-time great recruiting class! In recruiting rankings... Absolutely, in getting guys in the starting line up... No doubt, qualifying for and/or getting seeded in the post season..., Yes sir, progressing and placing in the Olympic styles domestically and internationally... absolutely. production beyond the blood round in the collegiate post season is where I am looking. Mendez (3rd,1st,1st,2nd), feldmen (5th, nq 3-2, nq 2-2), shumate (1x nq, 2-2 dnp), bouzakis (3x nq, 2-2 each year), gavin brown (spot starts two year, full time starter at Purdue dnq in 26), mccrone (2x nq, 1-2 dnps) geog (2x nq, 1-2, 3-2) No disrespect intended to any. Injuries, opportunities, matchups, weights and weight management, styles matter, and college wrestling is freaking hard. How many titles, how many finals, how many all American finishes, how high of finish, how many wins on the front side, who did you beat, who beat you, did you win the head to head, mhow many team points did you score and how many get left on the floor. 15 trips, 5 podiums, one 2x champ/4x AA With today's eligibility uncertainty i only hope to see anyone on the Ohio State roster in the lineup and ending the year with hands raised on the mat and a step up or step on the podium. Brown, geog, and mccrone will all be starting fifth years at Purdue, Mizzou, and UNC. Wish nothing but best and think all could do damage in right brackets. Hepner surprised a lot of people last year On 10/19/2026 at 8:38 AM, MPhillips said: Ryan is safe and stays as long as he wants and then Jaggers comes in for twenty more yrs of the same. That is exactly how it goes. I would think Jaggers or Logan would be the most likely hires based on loyalty, time in room, a clean program history, success on mat and in class. Would like to see some non tOSU people coming to rtc or on some staff to bring in new ideas, experiences, different approaches. Assuming ryans replacement is in house does not mean every hire or every rtc athlete has to be an ohio state graduate. No one has to leave for someone new to come in
Warm Up Champ Posted October 20 Posted October 20 Which wrestling coaches have actually been let go in recent memory? I can't imagine the list is very long. Zalesky at Oregon State. Poeta, however that wasn't performance related. Who else?
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