DT and the "Open Date"

[MPhillips]

1 hour ago, PortaJohn said:

Are you being sarcastic or serious?  

You disagree or are you just curious?

[ionel]

2 hours ago, PortaJohn said:

Are you being sarcastic or serious?  

 

6 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

You disagree or are you just curious?

Good song titles.  

[BruceyB]

14 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Dumb.  I’m no PSU fan but Cael actually does a decent amount to grow the sport.  For example in the duals they do wrestle we usually get all the starters.  They also always have away duals against smaller schools to help their attendance.

I could absolutely care less about whether or not Cael wrestles his starters against Oregon State, Wyoming, or even worse Bellarmine. I wouldn't bother going out of my way to watch any of those duals because there is maybe going to be one semi-interesting match up in the whole event, and frankly Cole Mirasola and Christian Carroll is not appointment viewing for me. I'd hardly say sending the calvary to blank a small program 55-0 is a selfless act for the sake of growing the sport. It's a thin veil to justify scheduling smaller programs rather than harder tests.

[Simpleman424]

1 minute ago, BruceyB said:

I could absolutely care less about whether or not Cael wrestles his starters against Oregon State, Wyoming, or even worse Bellarmine. I wouldn't bother going out of my way to watch any of those duals because there is maybe going to be one semi-interesting match up in the whole event, and frankly Cole Mirasola and Christian Carroll is not appointment viewing for me. I'd hardly say sending the calvary to blank a small program 55-0 is a selfless act for the sake of growing the sport. It's a thin veil to justify scheduling smaller programs rather than harder tests.

The goal post have been moving all over the place on this one…they WILL find a way for Cael and Penn State to be the hero’s…

[ionel]

5 minutes ago, Simpleman424 said:

The goal post have been moving all over the place on this one…they WILL find a way for Cael and Penn State to be the hero’s…

Cael has done more for dodgeball than any other coach in NCAA wrestling history.  

[Simpleman424]

29 minutes ago, ionel said:

Cael has done more for dodgeball than any other coach in NCAA wrestling history.  

You joke but I heard he even considered giving some of those starving kids in Africa some Cael Cookies! ….at a discount…

Edited August 16 by Simpleman424

[1032004]

2 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

You said this and then didn't substantiate it.

Because of how good they are, they obviously don’t have to wrestle all their starters in duals to still win.  But they do.

40 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

I could absolutely care less about whether or not Cael wrestles his starters against Oregon State, Wyoming, or even worse Bellarmine. I wouldn't bother going out of my way to watch any of those duals because there is maybe going to be one semi-interesting match up in the whole event,

And yet I feel like there were numerous duals last year where there were supposed to be one or maybe two interesting matchups, but didn’t end up happening because one of the guys sat (and almost always not the PSU guys if they were one of the teams involved).

[MoveCountermove]

1 hour ago, Simpleman424 said:

The goal post have been moving all over the place on this one…they WILL find a way for Cael and Penn State to be the hero’s…

I think they just flat out took the goal posts down a while ago…

[BruceyB]

50 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Because of how good they are, they obviously don’t have to wrestle all their starters in duals to still win.  But they do.

And yet I feel like there were numerous duals last year where there were supposed to be one or maybe two interesting matchups, but didn’t end up happening because one of the guys sat (and almost always not the PSU guys if they were one of the teams involved).

I think we are just getting well off topic here. Cael doesn't get credit for using his starters (which every coach should do). The coaches that sit guys for obvious reasons should be admonished. Chris Rock has an old bit about people wanting credit for doing things they are supposed to do. "I take care of my family" is not a brag, it's what you are supposed to do. "I send out my starters" isn't a brag, it is what you are supposed to do.

My best friend has never watched a college dual, but he would 100% come over and watch DT and his cowboys take on Penn State because even he would be sucked into the storyline. He knows who David Taylor and Cael are and would watch a sport he normally doesn't care about to see what happens. 

The superbowl is watched by way more than just football fans just like this dual would (to a much much smaller degree) bring in some interest from people that typically don't watch wrestling.

[1032004]

34 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

I think we are just getting well off topic here. Cael doesn't get credit for using his starters (which every coach should do). The coaches that sit guys for obvious reasons should be admonished. Chris Rock has an old bit about people wanting credit for doing things they are supposed to do. "I take care of my family" is not a brag, it's what you are supposed to do. "I send out my starters" isn't a brag, it is what you are supposed to do.

My best friend has never watched a college dual, but he would 100% come over and watch DT and his cowboys take on Penn State because even he would be sucked into the storyline. He knows who David Taylor and Cael are and would watch a sport he normally doesn't care about to see what happens. 

The superbowl is watched by way more than just football fans just like this dual would (to a much much smaller degree) bring in some interest from people that typically don't watch wrestling.

I dunno, since not ducking has turned into the exception rather than the rule, I kinda think praise is warranted.

Edited August 16 by 1032004

[Hammerlock3]

Whats below praise....I'd say "acknowledgment". 

[Simpleman424]

Maybe I’m just not paying enough attention to some of these other teams but I haven’t seen a lot of ducking, especially last year…

All the major ones I can think of had legitimate injuries tied to them of one or the other. I’ll have to look back at some of the bigger duals last year…

[Hammerlock3]

29 minutes ago, Simpleman424 said:

Maybe I’m just not paying enough attention to some of these other teams but I haven’t seen a lot of ducking, especially last year…

All the major ones I can think of had legitimate injuries tied to them of one or the other. I’ll have to look back at some of the bigger duals last year…

i don't think it was as bad last year. Likely because Ryan was trying to establish himself as a clear #2 in the country...it didn't work. 

[MPhillips]

4 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

Likely because Ryan was trying to establish himself as a clear #2 in the country...

Stop downplaying #2. They were #1 for awhile...

[BruceyB]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

I dunno, since not ducking has turned into the exception rather than the rule, I kinda think praise is warranted.

The exception rather than the rule is hyperbole. But you can sing Cael's praises for sending out Mesenbrink against Sacred Heart, I just won't be joining that chorus.

[Simpleman424]

7 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

The exception rather than the rule is hyperbole. But you can sing Cael's praises for sending out Mesenbrink against Sacred Heart, I just won't be joining that chorus.

That’s “Saint Cael The Redeemer” to you 

[ionel]

13 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

The exception rather than the rule is hyperbole. But you can sing Cael's praises for sending out Mesenbrink against Sacred Heart, I just won't be joining that chorus.

But would you sing a PortaJohn melody for free Cael cookies?  

[BruceyB]

13 minutes ago, ionel said:

But would you sing a PortaJohn melody for free Cael cookies?  

I only sing "Long Distance Swimmer" for our dear old friend.

[MPhillips]

3 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

I only sing "Long Distance Swimmer" for our dear old friend.

What does he know.

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

What does he know

nothing 

[Hammerlock3]

1 hour ago, MPhillips said:

Stop downplaying #2. They were #1 for awhile...

I don't want to trigger Le Duke.....she's still mad about Cael not getting coach of the year every year. 

[MoveCountermove]

3 hours ago, BruceyB said:

I think we are just getting well off topic here. Cael doesn't get credit for using his starters (which every coach should do). The coaches that sit guys for obvious reasons should be admonished. Chris Rock has an old bit about people wanting credit for doing things they are supposed to do. "I take care of my family" is not a brag, it's what you are supposed to do. "I send out my starters" isn't a brag, it is what you are supposed to do.

My best friend has never watched a college dual, but he would 100% come over and watch DT and his cowboys take on Penn State because even he would be sucked into the storyline. He knows who David Taylor and Cael are and would watch a sport he normally doesn't care about to see what happens. 

The superbowl is watched by way more than just football fans just like this dual would (to a much much smaller degree) bring in some interest from people that typically don't watch wrestling.

You mean to tell me those were not all OG soccer fans at the World Cup and parading around various cities cheering on the US? Well I never…

[Simpleman424]

35 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

I don't want to trigger Le Duke.....she's still mad about Cael not getting coach of the year every year. 

An absolute insult to their existence having Ohio State ranked #1 when they were…

[Hammerlock3]

17 minutes ago, Simpleman424 said:

An absolute insult to their existence having Ohio State ranked #1 when they were…

some takes are so bad you just look around the room and say "......cool! In other news.." Like when your flat earther uncle gets a few drinks in him. 

[ScottishSteel]

13 hours ago, BruceyB said:

I could absolutely care less about whether or not Cael wrestles his starters against Oregon State, Wyoming, or even worse Bellarmine. I wouldn't bother going out of my way to watch any of those duals because there is maybe going to be one semi-interesting match up in the whole event, and frankly Cole Mirasola and Christian Carroll is not appointment viewing for me. I'd hardly say sending the calvary to blank a small program 55-0 is a selfless act for the sake of growing the sport. It's a thin veil to justify scheduling smaller programs rather than harder tests.

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