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22 minutes ago, ionel said:

Believe Manning, Koll, Brands and L Smith already earned the Bozo Badge. 

Could there be more?  🙅‍♀️

No.  Not imo. 

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You'd need a school with a morally bankrupt head coach + a morally bankrupt AD + no media calls or other notifications to the university president's office.  Difficult needle to thread. 

Posted
20 minutes ago, dragit said:

You'd need a school with a morally bankrupt head coach + a morally bankrupt AD + no media calls or other notifications to the university president's office.  Difficult needle to thread. 

PSU doesn't need him to win a title.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Hammerlock3 said:

PSU doesn't need him to win a title.

Well played.  I set 'em up, you knock 'em down.

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Posted
On 7/29/2026 at 10:39 AM, ionel said:

Believe Manning, Koll, Brands and L Smith already earned the Bozo Badge. 

Could there be more?  🙅‍♀️

You forgot J Smith on your list 

Posted
3 hours ago, 1032004 said:

You forgot J Smith on your list 

The stuff hadn't happened/wasn't known when J Smith recruited him.  J Smith coached him to a tFr NC.  So year was when accident and assault happened and J Smith (& univ) kicked him out after and before end of semester.  Everyone knew the issues after that.  

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Posted
8 minutes ago, ionel said:

The stuff hadn't happened/wasn't known when J Smith recruited him.  J Smith coached him to a tFr NC.  So year was when accident and assault happened and J Smith (& univ) kicked him out after and before end of semester.  Everyone knew the issues after that.  

He didn’t attend three different high schools before college?

If anyone deserves to not be on the list, it’s Luke Smith, since as far as we know AJ did not have any major transgressions under his watch.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

He didn’t attend three different high schools before college?

My understanding is the high school moves were more Anthony and the dad keeping the boys together.  It continued with all exiting Stillwater.  The dad was a problem.  

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Posted
36 minutes ago, ionel said:

The stuff hadn't happened/wasn't known when J Smith recruited him.  J Smith coached him to a tFr NC.  So year was when accident and assault happened and J Smith (& univ) kicked him out after and before end of semester.  Everyone knew the issues after that.  

Hahaha.  Come on now, brother.

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Someone help me here- but wasn't it Allen, Blair, Bergen and Allen again all the same school year? Or did he start the year directly at Blair? And didn't the family then go to Oklahoma but that was after AJ in HS?

Posted
4 minutes ago, LJB said:

there were plenty of known issues in HS...

 

Exactly. 

5 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

as a lawyer, is it justified to add J. Smith to the list?  I love being a trouble maker. 

Of course. 

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Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, LJB said:

there were plenty of known issues in HS...

 

For AJ?

I'm not defending him but the only thing I heard in high school was he left Blair cause Anthony, who is worse than him, pulled a knife on someone and got kicked out. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

what did he do

not sure how much was public, so, i will not comment on specifics, but, i was hearing some crazy things coming out of OK when the family moved to stillwater in 2020...

i had not lived there for 6ish years and i was still hearing things from friends living there...

issues were well known before AJ enrolled in college...

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Posted
47 minutes ago, LJB said:

not sure how much was public, so, i will not comment on specifics, but, i was hearing some crazy things coming out of OK when the family moved to stillwater in 2020...

i had not lived there for 6ish years and i was still hearing things from friends living there...

issues were well known before AJ enrolled in college...

When did AJ wrestle at Stillwater High? 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, LJB said:

who said he did?

You said crazy things coming out of OK when the family moved to Stillwater.  He was in TX when recruited, I meet he and the dad before the dual on recruitment trip.  He was already on the team when the family moved from Texas else why did they move?  So what was known in Texas?  Anthony was a different story.  

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Posted
Just now, ionel said:

You said crazy things coming out of OK when the family moved to Stillwater.  He was in TX when recruited, I meet he and the dad before the dual on recruitment trip.  He was already on the team when the family moved from Texas else why did they move?  So what was known in Texas?  Anthony was a different story.  

yes, crazy things coming out of OK when the family moved there before he was enrolled...

Posted
Just now, LJB said:

yes, crazy things coming out of OK when the family moved there before he was enrolled...

That doesn't answer the question of what was known about AJ before he was recruited and committed. If something was known should it have kept him from being the #1 recruit?  

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Posted
Just now, ionel said:

That doesn't answer the question of what was known about AJ before he was recruited and committed. If something was known should it have kept him from being the #1 recruit?  

i did not say it should not have kept him from anything...

i said there were issues known when he was still in HS...

there was...

what is your end goal here?

Posted
6 minutes ago, LJB said:

i did not say it should not have kept him from anything...

i said there were issues known when he was still in HS...

there was...

what is your end goal here?

Then that would be in TX not OK.

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