Simpleman424 Posted July 6 Posted July 6 14 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said: keeping him out of jail is my point, stop being a weird angry bitter weirdo. Well I mean he should be in jail…we’re all in agreement on that right? 1
WrestlingRash Posted July 6 Posted July 6 12 minutes ago, Simpleman424 said: Well I mean he should be in jail…we’re all in agreement on that right? Caviera is his uncle, so perhaps he feels differently
Caveira Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) 8 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said: Caviera is his uncle, so perhaps he feels differently I’ve repeatedly called him a trash bag…… At least a zillion times. Etc. try again. Edited July 6 by Caveira
fishbane Posted July 6 Posted July 6 37 minutes ago, Caveira said: @fishbane this ~~> John Smith getting AJ a National Title is one of the most impressive coaching jobs in NCAA Wrestling history. <~~ is not true It's not strictly true. It's hyperbole. There also is some truth to it. Smith succeeded where other top coaches such as Brands, Manning, and Koll could not. Not sure where your AI is getting those rankings. Below are Flo's rankings. The latest one they published was in March 2020. Earlier Ferrari was number 1 but he didn't wrestle his senior year and fell down the rankings.
Caveira Posted July 6 Posted July 6 (edited) 18 minutes ago, fishbane said: Not sure where your AI is getting those rankings. It’s literally a quote from a flo article with the date and the author and a Oklahoma state article calling him #1 only point is it wasn’t a suprise he won NCAAs. Edited July 6 by Caveira 1
fishbane Posted July 7 Posted July 7 30 minutes ago, Caveira said: It’s literally a quote from a flo article with the date and the author and a Oklahoma state article calling him #1 only point is it wasn’t a suprise he won NCAAs. As in you quoted it from the flo article or an AI produced that for you? The flo article that is from is 4/8/2019. Ferrari was #1 again 8/6/2019. After that he started falling. On 1/8/2020 he was down to 5 and on 1/8/2020 and finished the year #10 in the last class ranking for the class of 2020. You don't need AI to figure a guy who missed his entire senior season is going to fall in the rankings. And whilst being 1 shows the potential to win NCAAs. Somewhat rarely is that potential realized as a true freshman or ever in challenging cases such as Ferrari.
Caveira Posted July 7 Posted July 7 5 minutes ago, fishbane said: As in you quoted it from the flo article or an AI produced that for you? The flo article that is from is 4/8/2019. Ferrari was #1 again 8/6/2019. After that he started falling. On 1/8/2020 he was down to 5 and on 1/8/2020 and finished the year #10 in the last class ranking for the class of 2020. You don't need AI to figure a guy who missed his entire senior season is going to fall in the rankings. And whilst being 1 shows the potential to win NCAAs. Somewhat rarely is that potential realized as a true freshman or ever in challenging cases such as Ferrari. It’s a copy paste from a Flo article. Same with the okst article. Only point is he really surprised no one winning NCAAs his frosh year. He was a highly ranked recruit.
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 up to that point, AJ was only the 3rd true freshmen to win NCAAs in the history of ever... some of us knew who he was before then as well... he surprised a metric fuk ton of people winning that year...
fishbane Posted July 7 Posted July 7 (edited) 4 minutes ago, LJB said: up to that point, AJ was only the 3rd true freshmen to win NCAAs in the history of ever... That can't be right. Pat Smith, McIlravy, Ware?, Dake, Schlatter, Spencer Lee, Diakomihalis... Mark Hall. Edited July 7 by fishbane
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 3 minutes ago, fishbane said: That can't be right. Pat Smith, McIlravy, Ware?, Dake, Schlatter, Spencer Lee, Diakomihalis... Mark Hall. maybe it was the only 3rd true freshmen at okie state... i am basing it off his bio on the school page...
Simpleman424 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 28 minutes ago, fishbane said: As in you quoted it from the flo article or an AI produced that for you? The flo article that is from is 4/8/2019. Ferrari was #1 again 8/6/2019. After that he started falling. On 1/8/2020 he was down to 5 and on 1/8/2020 and finished the year #10 in the last class ranking for the class of 2020. You don't need AI to figure a guy who missed his entire senior season is going to fall in the rankings. And whilst being 1 shows the potential to win NCAAs. Somewhat rarely is that potential realized as a true freshman or ever in challenging cases such as Ferrari. I’m pretty sure he was number one and just didn’t finish there? Possibly because of that injury that derailed his senior season.
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 regardless... plenty of people were very surprised AJ won it... looking at what has happened since only proves that surprise is/was warranted...
Bacanator Posted July 7 Posted July 7 4 minutes ago, LJB said: maybe it was the only 3rd true freshmen at okie state... i am basing it off his bio on the school page... I believe he was the 3rd true freshman to only drop a single match all year… and the only one who never avenged his lone loss
Simpleman424 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 2 minutes ago, LJB said: regardless... plenty of people were very surprised AJ won it... looking at what has happened since only proves that surprise is/was warranted... If I were to have never seen him wrestle until these past couple of years there is absolutely no way you could have told me he had won a national championship or would… 1
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Just now, Simpleman424 said: If I were to have never seen him wrestle until these past couple of years there is absolutely no way you could have told me he had won a national championship or would… to be 100% honest, it still absolutely blows my mind that an NCAA title can be "won" on one knee... 1
Caveira Posted July 7 Posted July 7 6 minutes ago, LJB said: to be 100% honest, it still absolutely blows my mind that an NCAA title can be "won" on one knee... Just like holding your arm behind your back the whole time in neutral. It’s not stalling. as a Greco human you won’t understand though.
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 2 minutes ago, Caveira said: Just like holding your arm behind your back the whole time in neutral. It’s not stalling. as a Greco human you won’t understand though. you finally got something right... no Greco human" understands why anyone would actively choose to not wrestle as a strategy in a wrestling match...
Caveira Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Just now, LJB said: you finally got something right... no Greco human" understands why anyone would actively choose to not wrestle as a strategy in a wrestling match... So if you don’t understand the rules for a completely different sport ….. ?? But prefer an hour of boring hand fighting and rarely having real scoring that’s on you then.
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Caveira said: So if you don’t understand the rules for a completely different sport ….. ?? But prefer an hour of boring hand fighting and rarely having real scoring that’s on you then. you are adorable... choosing a strategy to actively not wrestle in a wrestling match doesn't feel like wrestling even if the sport actually values and encourages and rewards not actually doing the sport... i fully understand why some cheer for it... Edited July 7 by LJB
Caveira Posted July 7 Posted July 7 (edited) 2 minutes ago, LJB said: you are adorable... choosing a strategy to actively not wrestle in a wrestling match doesn't feel like wrestling whether even if the sport actually values and encourages and rewards not actually doing the sport... i fully understand why some cheer for it... Its cheered for because its by leaps and bounds the most entertaining form of wrestling in the USA #1. Folkstyle distant #2. Freestyle #3 women’s freestyle non existent #10. Greco Edited July 7 by Caveira
ionel Posted July 7 Posted July 7 19 minutes ago, LJB said: to be 100% honest, it still absolutely blows my mind that an NCAA title can be "won" on one knee... He had a good double leg as a tFr and John taught him the single. .
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 1 minute ago, Caveira said: Its cheered for because its by leaps and bounds the most entertaining form of wrestling in the USA #1. Folkstyle distant #2. Freestyle non existent #10. Greco again, i get why there are some who applaud not wrestling as a strategy...
Caveira Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Just now, LJB said: again, i get why there are some who applaud not wrestling as a strategy... I edited the post to add a #3. You can respond to that
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 1 minute ago, Caveira said: I edited the post to add a #3. You can respond to that again, i get why there are some who applaud not wrestling as a strategy...
Caveira Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Just now, LJB said: again, i get why there are some who applaud not wrestling as a strategy... It’s still more entertaining vs endless boring hand fighting which is why no one watches Greco. Folk is 1000x more exciting.
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