Simpleman424 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 (edited) 30 minutes ago, LJB said: to be 100% honest, it still absolutely blows my mind that an NCAA title can be "won" on one knee... Oh I can see it but it’s something you progressively stop doing as you move up in weight…one knee requires speed that is mostly retained between 149 and under weights. Becomes significantly more sparse after that. Edited July 7 by Simpleman424 misspelling
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 2 minutes ago, Caveira said: It’s still more entertaining vs endless boring hand fighting which is why no one watches Greco. Folk is 1000x more exciting. again, i get why there are some who applaud not wrestling as a strategy...
Simpleman424 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 2 minutes ago, Caveira said: It’s still more entertaining vs endless boring hand fighting which is why no one watches Greco. Folk is 1000x more exciting. I by no means am a Greco master but I would wrestle it in the off season a bit. I always like it…different challenge and strategy I could appreciate. Plus I always felt like it helped me over all as a wrestler.
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 1 minute ago, Simpleman424 said: Oh I can see it but it’s something you progressively stop doing as you move up in wait... this made me giggle...
Caveira Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Just now, Simpleman424 said: I by no means am a Greco master but I would wrestle it in the off season a bit. I always like it…different challenge and strategy I could appreciate. Plus I always felt like it helped me over all as a wrestler. To be fair I wrestled Greco and freestyle every summer as well. It doesn’t make it fan friendly.
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 2 minutes ago, Caveira said: To be fair I wrestled Greco and freestyle every summer as well. It doesn’t make it fan friendly. when was the last world championships greco finals you watched?
Simpleman424 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 2 minutes ago, Caveira said: To be fair I wrestled Greco and freestyle every summer as well. It doesn’t make it fan friendly. Some people just don’t know how to get excited with two dudes hugging each others waist and thrashing about…
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Just now, Simpleman424 said: Some people just don’t know how to get excited with two dudes hugging each others waist and thrashing about… some people much prefer a "high crotch" on another man...
Caveira Posted July 7 Posted July 7 2 minutes ago, LJB said: some people much prefer a "high crotch" on another man... Some people don’t know when they’ve lost an argument. By exponential leaps and bounds. No one wants to watch Greco in the USA. Because it’s boring af.
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 whatever... i am not interested in trying to convert anyone to the higher form of sport... i quit arguing with women literally years ago... the overall point of this immediate discussion is intentionally not wrestling can 100% win you an NCAA title and it still blows me away...
Simpleman424 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 3 minutes ago, LJB said: some people much prefer a "high crotch" on another man...
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 2 minutes ago, Caveira said: Some people don’t know when they’ve lost an argument. By exponential leaps and bounds. No one wants to watch Greco in the USA. Because it’s boring af. what was the last world championship greco finals you watched?
Caveira Posted July 7 Posted July 7 (edited) 1 minute ago, LJB said: what was the last world championship greco finals you watched? I’m not up at 4am with a sketchy VPN watching non Americans …. and Ferrari and Bartlett (arm behind his back guy) are exponentially more exciting than Greco Both of whom I dislike Edited July 7 by Caveira
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 1 minute ago, Caveira said: I’m not up at 4am with a sketchy VPN watching non Americans …. and Ferrari and Bartlett (arm behind his back guy) are exponentially more exciting than Greco Both of whom I dislike so you have never watched a world championship greco finals in your life? your only exposure to greco was at the owasso open? shocking...
Simpleman424 Posted July 7 Posted July 7 I mean people say baseball is boring to watch…I think Greco and baseball have one glaring similarity, you either have the ability to fully appreciate it or not. You can watch a game and say the guys throwing 95mph and that’s it or you understand his setups, audibles etc. Greco isn’t flashing but I appreciate the intricacies in it.
Caveira Posted July 7 Posted July 7 1 minute ago, LJB said: so you have never watched a world championship greco finals in your life? your only exposure to greco was at the owasso open? shocking... I’ve seen stuff on YouTube. I’ve been forced to watch wtt or us open finals marches etc. ask the general American population Where statistically no one want to watch the worst version of wrestling either. Given you are pretty much the only one who likes the only it here …… that should tell you all you need to know
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 17 minutes ago, Caveira said: Given you are pretty much the only one who likes the only it here …… yep... owasso open...
MPhillips Posted July 7 Posted July 7 3 hours ago, fishbane said: The only one ranked ahead of him by flo that won NCAAs was Braxton Amos. When did this happen... 1 .
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Just now, Caveira said: Fargo i am going to tell you a little story... several years ago when first starting to get to know one of my really close friends, we were talking about fargo... otto was 17 and had just moved into his gym to train daily with the senior athlete living there... my friend's son had just AA'd at fargo at cadets making their family one of (if not the only) grandfather-father-grandson AAs at fargo before... i made the comment how bad fargo greco is overall and he balked at that... made the comment if you can AA at fargo he know greco... i just let it go... otto and his kid became besties and his kid started really taking greco seriously... doing some traveling overseas... has made the last 2 U20 world teams and was the only american to wrestle for a greco medal last year at U20s... a couple of years ago, we were talking right after fargo had finished and he made the comment how bad fargo greco is... we both had a great big laugh over that... there is a lesson to be learned there whether some comprehend it or not... 1
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 7 minutes ago, MPhillips said: When did this happen... ha... i just let that one go... (not that i have made a gaffe in this very thread spouting off stats)
Caveira Posted July 7 Posted July 7 7 minutes ago, LJB said: i am going to tell you a little story... several years ago when first starting to get to know one of my really close friends, we were talking about fargo... otto was 17 and had just moved into his gym to train daily with the senior athlete living there... my friend's son had just AA'd at fargo at cadets making their family one of (if not the only) grandfather-father-grandson AAs at fargo before... i made the comment how bad fargo greco is overall and he balked at that... made the comment if you can AA at fargo he know greco... i just let it go... otto and his kid became besties and his kid started really taking greco seriously... doing some traveling overseas... has made the last 2 U20 world teams and was the only american to wrestle for a greco medal last year at U20s... a couple of years ago, we were talking right after fargo had finished and he made the comment how bad fargo greco is... we both had a great big laugh over that... there is a lesson to be learned there whether some comprehend it or not... It’s still boring af. No amount of stories will change that
LJB Posted July 7 Posted July 7 1 minute ago, Caveira said: It’s still boring af. No amount of stories will change that again... you simply have no point of reference... absolutely none... that does not make you unique at all...
Caveira Posted July 7 Posted July 7 Just now, LJB said: again... you simply have no point of reference... absolutely none... that does not make you unique at all... The vast majority of Americans think the sport is boring af. Statistically no one gives Greco a shot as a direct result of this. You never offer a “why” it is entertaining you just scoff at people not caring about it. You just scoff at those that tell you otherwise.
Caveira Posted July 7 Posted July 7 12 minutes ago, LJB said: again... you simply have no point of reference... absolutely none... that does not make you unique at all... Here are some #s at the hs level to look at folkstyle high school wrestlers. ~374,000 freestyle high school wrestlers ~75,000 greco ~30,000 rationalize why no one is doing Greco …. ~8%is a small representation of the population boss
Braeden Simoneaux New York Military Academy, Louisiana Class of 2027 Committed to Wyoming Projected Weight: 184, 197
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