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Seems like a lot of their guys are going down to lower-ranked seeds today.  Admittedly though, I'm flipping from mat to mat, so my take may not be that accurate.  Any Big Red fans out there who can weigh in on how they're doing?

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Hey, Hey, Hey... you're stealing jimminy crossbuns thunder here! 😏

D3

Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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Draw? They have great athletes, but poor development. Shapiro gets worse every year. Ruiz got worse all season, peaked in the summer. They had 4 weights where they couldn’t compete within the ivy league. They used to have to best mat returns and riding in the country.  Koll was a great coach who built a great program. They have lived off the fumes for the past few years but the cracks have been obvious. 

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I am not sure what weight this was, but the Cornell kid was ahead, and just let the opponent back in to the match. Then he gave up the winning TD with about 30 seconds left and he just there on the mat. 

It was as bad as when Warren laid down at Northern Iowa! 

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1 minute ago, TexRef said:

I am not sure what weight this was, but the Cornell kid was ahead, and just let the opponent back in to the match. Then he gave up the winning TD with about 30 seconds left and he just there on the mat. 

It was as bad as when Warren laid down at Northern Iowa! 

I think that might have been Jaxon Joy vs. Aden Valencia

Joy was up 7-1 and ended up losing 12-9 with 3 third period takedowns by Valencia

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They had a bad tournament for sure, big letdown for the program. They are in 17th place and were projected for 6th place by seed. Gut punch I am sure. 

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2 minutes ago, BaldAt23 said:

They had a bad tournament for sure, big letdown for the program. They are in 17th place and were projected for 6th place by seed. Gut punch I am sure. 

They were wildly over seeded due to wrestling in the weak Ivy

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34 minutes ago, TexRef said:

I am not sure what weight this was, but the Cornell kid was ahead, and just let the opponent back in to the match. Then he gave up the winning TD with about 30 seconds left and he just there on the mat. 

It was as bad as when Warren laid down at Northern Iowa! 

 

26 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

They were wildly over seeded due to wrestling in the weak Ivy

141…jaxon joy just got hit by a swarm…as a friend texted me…”great idea to leave the eiwa, they look totally overmatched”…what is the answer? two 2 seeds, one 3 seed and hoping for one seventh place finish…they have the talent but what is happening there…mike grey?

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1 minute ago, Ched64 said:

 

141…jaxon joy just got hit by a swarm…as a friend texted me…”great idea to leave the eiwa, they look totally overmatched”…what is the answer? two 2 seeds, one 3 seed and hoping for one seventh place finish…they have the talent but what is happening there…mike grey?

D1 wrestling is very hard 

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2 hours ago, Hurricane Wrestling said:

Seems like a lot of their guys are going down to lower-ranked seeds today.  Admittedly though, I'm flipping from mat to mat, so my take may not be that accurate.  Any Big Red fans out there who can weigh in on how they're doing?

Short answer: yes, it was tough to watch

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45 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

They were wildly over seeded due to wrestling in the weak Ivy

Every conference except the Big Ten is weak. 

Posted
15 minutes ago, Caveira said:

D1 wrestling is very hard 

yes but having your best wrestlers taken out by double digit seeds screams for course correction

 

Posted
14 minutes ago, jbai3_12 said:

Not to mention guys in Spartan Combat not being able to stay healthy. Yianni, Vito, Shapiro.  

yes

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Just now, Ched64 said:

yes

and yianni’s little bro, 4 time nys champ being punked for four years isn’t a great thing either 

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51 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

They were wildly over seeded due to wrestling in the weak Ivy

agreed but they did beat a bunch of highly seeded kids…the Larkins for example who also got beat up

 

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2 hours ago, WPCadet12 said:

Hire Dake please.   No draw for athletes with current staff.  

love kyle but the issue is lack of offense…dake doesnt solve that

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Just now, Ched64 said:

love kyle but the issue is lack of offense…dake doesnt solve that

he is a unique talent…unteachable

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12 hours ago, Mason said:

I think that might have been Jaxon Joy vs. Aden Valencia

Joy was up 7-1 and ended up losing 12-9 with 3 third period takedowns by Valencia

joy was either hurt or mentally broken. it seems like sour grapes but there was scramble at the end of the second period and joy was grimacing in a way that seemed like almost crying. he was hit for stalling, to close the score to 7-2 and valencia and the stanford staff smelled blood in the water. valencia came out in the third attacking like a demon and joy was helpless. unclear what had happened but he was up 7-2 but mentally and physically broken. The Gaj match was strange because it looked like he was about to secure a takedown but Gaj did a great job to get into a scramble and put Joy in neutral danger for 3+4.

As I was typing this, Shapiro took a MFF in the 7th place match which was pretty much what I expected. He seemed off yesterday from the first match where, up 13-0+rt he ignored his corner that was asking him to cut and get one more takedown. Looked like he was trying to conserve energy the whole tournament, a terrible sign when the level of competition goes up.

The Ruiz matches against Wask and Kharchla were a nightmare of poor tactical preparation and finishing. In the Kharchla match, Ruiz started the third down one point and ~20 seconds of RT The corner was telling Ruiz to cut and I guess Ruiz thought he stood a better chance of a turn or a rideout as a fallback. That didn't work out at all.

Cornella - Hardy went about as well as could be expected and tbh by the end of that one, Cornella had more juice. Strength > speed gave Hardy the early lead but Cornella nearly pulled that one out. Against Nogle, not much to say. Great second period ride from Nogle including a great turn. That NF4 put Cornella in catchup mode.

The entire tournament was a frustrating exercise in finishing. I can't count the number of successful single leg attacks that were turned into nothing at best and counter offense more often. 

Watching this tournament as a Cornell fan ranked slightly behind colonoscopy prep.

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16 hours ago, RetiredFromWrestling said:

Today was the worst day of wrestling for Cornell since 2003. 

I think its mostly just unlucky - they are solid program with great recruits and will be fine.  

Posted
18 hours ago, Ched64 said:

and yianni’s little bro, 4 time nys champ being punked for four years isn’t a great thing either 

Greg was a small 125 and he was usually injured to boot. He kept getting hurt or sick in practice and was never able to train and bulk up in tandem. damn shame in light of what could have been. 

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19 hours ago, Mason said:

I think that might have been Jaxon Joy vs. Aden Valencia

Joy was up 7-1 and ended up losing 12-9 with 3 third period takedowns by Valencia

Pretty sure Joy got some injury in that match.  Up big, then was grimacing, then had nothing.

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