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The thread is about ford. Not some new rando dude

Pretty cool. Does the data also indicate the reasons for the team point deductions? At the end of the day points are points, but it might be fun to see which ones are headgear tosses and which ones are like, doing a cartwheel and attempting a Kimura on an opponent. (Actually, I don't think Drexel was penalized for it, but you get the idea)

Who else bumps up for one match against someone that good? Did Pendleton? Abas, Mark Schultz, Seth Gross... not many others. Did any of them weigh a weight class less? And who wins while doing it? But that's a bad mark against Askren? Crazy talk.

Good stuff @fishbane...

With weight allowance, 176, but correct.

And he weighed in at 174 for Kish match, correct? Maybe the top guys he didn't fare well against were future world silver Herbert and future World Team member Gavin? Oh that is right... beat both.

I mentioned nothing of Ford in my comment, nor did the comment I was responding to. That whole comprehension thing again.

Dunno. Ha. Felon soon to be I hope

Natural born or naturalized is the question.

Was ford a democrat ?

It’s actually very accurate. And his half black daughter (from when he impregnated the family’s teenage ‘maid’) was shipped away and kept secret until after he died. Are you being serious???

Just googled it. Google says at least you’re right. Jail still for him though.

While Iowa has lost the most points in these nine years (5), they could afford it. But Chattanooga has to be my favorite. After scoring 1.5 points on the mat, they look to have given back 2 points in deductions for a net -0.5 score in 2017.

Your world brother. "I'm just passing by." I posted before your post came through so this is more like, "Great minds..."

Patience grasshopper

I don’t think anyone is getting too excited over a DOJ that is trying to bury this story going to talk to her behind closed doors. A subpoena to take questions from Congress, members from both sides of the aisle, in public……that’s a little more juicy.

How many of those deductions cost the IM64 a drop in final placement?

The caveat is Arizona State in 2022. Rescoring the bracket gives them 67 points, but every source I look at says they had 66.5 points. I even went so far as to look at videos of every one of their matches I could find from the tournament to see if the bracket was in error. Nope. No real controversy hear as the half point would not be enough to change their fourth place finish. If anyone knows the story here, let me know.

Read he’s a U.S. citizen.

Hillary acting weird again : https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8kJoJ58/

If anyone knows on of these to be wrong, let me know.

As part of a project to recreate all the tournament scores by building up for the individual match to the team total, it is obvious that there is a key missing component: team point deductions. So, now I am trying to back into them by assuming that any point total differential between my method and the publicly available scores is attributable to team point deductions (with a single caveat). Using that method I think there have been a total of 64 team points deducted in the 9 tournaments between 2016 and 2025. In three cases it looks like a team had 2 team point deductions in a single tournament. The ill-mannered 64 are (sorry about the rough formatting):

Pretty obvious, I’d say.

To be clear, your examples are.. Ben bumping up a weight class and beating beat a returning national finalist (the score was 5-1 with 30 seconds left.. Ben cut him with looking to score another takedown.. he gave one up at the end and the match finished a deceiving 5-4) and Ben making the Olympic team at a non-ideal weight class 1 year after graduating college.. Both examples show him failing to beat the top guys zero times. Again, who are these "top guys" you speak of?

I've wondered if takedown scoring zones would add more excitement or at least mitigate a little bit of stalling and fleeing. Setup the mat as 3 concentric circles with takedowns in the bullseye zone (center mat) worth 2 points, then 3 points for takedowns in the middle ring, and 4 points at the outermost ring with continuation for OOB. Or maybe the points should be flipped to award more points in the center? Idk. But my thinking is that a wrestler sitting on a lead will want to minimize risk and not hang out at the edge of the mat, and force them to wrestle near the center rather than flee. No idea if this would work, I'm sure someone else here could game this out better than I can, but just some food for thought.