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    Yea everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I won't try to persuade anyone one way or the other. I will say, I think he's a really good guy. A religious family man. So I respect that. Just not a fan of his podcasting.
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    If that is true, that they go back and forth, I would be VERY surprised by that. Carter Young cannot finish a leg attack on anyone good. And Vega is very tricky in leg attack defense (at least he was in HS). So in my head Vega would win that matchup 100 times out of 100.
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    Neither results surprises me too much.
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    To each their own. You nailed it.
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    Basch is one of the most annoying human beings I've listened to consistently. He's a "look at all these cool Penn State wrestlers I am friends with" guy. He's the dude in the friend group that when you find $5 on the ground, he says "That's cool but one time I found $10." Willie saved his show IMO, and is the only reason I listen to it. If Basch does a solo interview with an athlete or coach, I'm out. Actually, @Husker_Du just go back to doing The First Word solo please. That would solve my problems.
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    The version of Zahid we had at worlds, is not losing to Levi Haines. I would be surprised if it's even close.
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    This is an unbelievable troll. One of the better ones I've ever seen.
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    Don't be mad at me that you misspoke.
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    He's wrestled more matches in a PSU singlet than an OSU singlet.
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    https://www.flowrestling.org/video/13406601 So this ain't him?
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    Vinny Zerban is the best?
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    Fair point.
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    Cenzo had 1 bad loss, to Keaton Subjeck. His second match as the starter, which he avenged at NCAAs the same year. His best wins are: IMar (2x), Marinelli (2x), Evan Wick, Daniel Lewis, Dave McFadden, Isaac Jordan, and Logan Massa. Haines had a loss to Zerban early in his TRFR season. His best wins are Jacori, Peyton Robb (3x), and Andonian (2x). So yes, Cenzo's wins are significantly better.
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    Cenzo, no. He lost 1 match at NCAAs in three years, and never didn't make a final. It's not his fault that COVID stole his 4th tournament. He's firmly in the top 10. I could see him over Lee but it's close in my eyes.
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    Without his freestyle credentials, he's not top 10. If you include his freestyle credentials, he's still not top 10. Top 10, in no particular order: Brooks, Starr, Ruth, DT, Nolf, Nickal, Retherford, Cenzo, Nick Lee, Kerry McCoy.
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    Crook is a large human for 141. Wouldn't be surprised to see Bo and Crook flipped, with Bo going 141.
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    I agree. I'll just address the elephant in the room. I personally will be very surprised if he gets into the Naval Academy, especially if what other above has said about Kolat not being able to pull strings for him.
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    I think this is a testament to what I was saying of developing their guys and getting them ready.
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    I get your point. But they'll still have Minto, McDanel, Araujo, and Ayoub. Plus, I think their track record of developing guys in proven. Who (besides the wrestling nerds that are deep in the weeds), had ever heard of Silas Allred, Christopher Minto (who was 6th at NHSCA Nationals as a senior), and Caleb Smith (yes I know he had some success at App State, but Nebraska put him on the podium 2x. I think that staff will be fine.
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    With #2 being OKST? or Nebraska?
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    Yea.
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    1. Yes, it's crazy to think they'll be competing for a team title in 2-3 years. Penn State is still levels above EVERYONE. VT could compete for a trophy though, COULD. 2. No. Iowa will be in the hunt for second with the other 5 school you named.
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    I agree with you for the most part and 100% get what you're saying. A 4x AA is a great career no matter how you shake it. But with as much as hype as been around BB, if he doesn't win at least one title, I think that's a failure tbh.
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