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PSU's Eric Gibson -174 is in the portal

Not every Nebraska star is B1G caliber. Obviously Trumble is and they did go after him, just lost the recruiting battle.

Holy Strawman, Batman... Saying the word "fact" before making a statement doesn't actually make it true. What are you talking about?? Not one person has accused PSU of a rule violation or a massive conspiracy, including myself, who just challenged the ridiculous notion that Rocco is only getting some minimal NIL deal that all PSU athletes get. Just because you offer less than somone else doesn't meant PSU is offering nothing or the minimum deal everyone else gets. Cael recruiting over Ryder isn't a crime, rule violation or conspiracy, but it is a fact because it actually happened.

What "facts" point this this???

Nebraska did go after Trumble, but were a little late and couldn't make up the ground NCSt had made by getting in early. Nebraska HS talent has come a long ways recently but it wasn't good enough for the first 20 years Manning was in Lincoln to build a strong B1G team. I don't think they did not want NE kids but they probably were defaulting to the areas where they had built strong recruiting ties over the local scene that hadn't historically produce D1 AAs regularly.

No chance Rocco is getting the same deal that Gary Steen was getting (before he transferred).

You are really reading a ton into the "we build, we don't buy" quote. Getting 1 or 2 guys to supplement holes doesn't mean you "bought" a trophy, especially when the other trophy teams have more transfers and are spending more on NIL. He never said they wouldn't go after a top transfer either. Manning acknowledged they use NIL, but they don't have the NIL money to spend as much as other programs so they have to build guys.

It wasn't the schedule. He wasn't even the most dominate wrestler on his own team, but the strength of competition at 184 put him above MM who was more dominate. Carter is the reason Carter didn't win the Hodge. He wanted to control matches and not take much risk so he could win matches. Thanks to the 3 point TD, he was able to increase his bonus rate but he wasn't out trying to dominate or tech his opponents. If Carter went for techs and domination, he would of won the Hodge.

- This assumes a huge falsehood that Rocco isn't getting any NIL. - What should PSU do when Rocco called? It's crazy no one thinks Cael could of said "we like our guy at 184" He does have he ability to say no thanks. He wanted Rocco or Rocco wouldn't be on campus and he surely knew losing Ryder was a risk he was willing to take. You don't check with Ryder first unless his response changes your decision to take Rocco. - These kids only get 4 years to wrestle, while there a few room guys happy to be on the team, you can't blame Ryder for wanting to maximize his limited time in NCAA wrestling. Even if he thinks he can beat Rocco.

Welsh said he wants to go 184. I don't know why Barr would go down, he is the returning finalist If PSU buys AJ and bumps him to HWT, then it eliminates his biggest threat and Barr will enter next year as a strong favorite. Marasolas might need to get "hurt" playing dodgeball and get a medical to avoid losing a year of eligibility.

Might be time for 144....

I was told that these kids don't actually care about starting, the PSU guys just want to be the best wrestlers they can be so I doubt they all transfer . Surely some will stay just to get better and be room guys on a winning team.

I doubt Carter tweets out that he is taking Ryder (after the Rocco news) if Ryder was on the way out and this was expected.

More money just freed up for AJ!!

I almost commented David Taylor is on line one...

Ryder didn't even want to try and beat out Rocco.or he didn't like getting recruited over... interesting

RW got a good draw and still needed three SV 4-1 victories to make the finals so I get your point. Regardless of their credentials, you have to let the best guy go if they want, imo. Look at PSU, they are actively recruiting and paying NIL over guys that have been on campus with 4 years of eligibility left.

No one was even thinking CK would go 0-2 after watching CK in the PSU dual against Haines. My question is, if Rocco wanted to go why wasn't he give the chance to wrestle off? Ryan didn't have an issue making Cannon earn his spot over Sasso. If Rocco is beating the guys in the room and wants to go, why try and RS him?

It isn't the first or last thing that either of these guys have said online that they won't back it up. They are mastering the art of MMA style hype to create an audience. It works in short form when you are trying to sell fights, will see if it works in long form podcast where it could hurt your credibility.

Great Info as always. Couldn't the reason the MD did not decline was the 5-7 point wins are now MDs? So the 11-14 MD became TF but also the 5-7 pt Dec became MD? I am not the number guru you are but I would also think there was a higher number of 5-7 pt matches than 11-14 pt matches (with 2 pt TD) creating more opportunities to increase the MD that you are seeing the data.

Agree it would be a curveball, but that doesn't mean this is correct. AJ probably has the most bad blood with the PSU wrestlers and the OSU administration. Seems like the Iowa AD changing her tune would be more likely.

Sounds like typical Minnow BS. I thought he was kicked out of OSU? Not just off the wrestling team, but the University? PSU paying AJ to come in and challenge Barr with Starocci in his corner is the stuff realty TV producers dream about.

You must not be in the Transfer Portal thread...

Makes sense. I wonder if WIN should consider putting more weight on TFs and Pins over regular MDs.

I assume a MD with a 2 point TD is the same value as a MD with a 3pt TD?