Dogbone

Yes, there can be more than two title contenders but there is not at 184 this season. I'm sorry, Plott is very good and in a different year or weight class he has the ability to win a NC, but he is just level below the top two guys.

There have been a lot of good duals this year where the dual outcome was not in doubt but had a lot of toss up matches. This dual does not seem to have a lot of toss ups, but the dual is a toss up with bonus points likely deciding the difference. Just interesting to me.

Refs are not supposed to be known. The fact that he is the most well known and recognized ref tells you all you need to know. I don't know the name of another NCAA ref nor could I recognize one in street clothes, but I can with Angel.

2 point stall call was basically a fleeing the mat call, which was justified IMO. It wasn't like he sprawled and went out of bounds, he was literally running away. If that happens in the first period, no one thinks twice about it.

I think you get at least two AAs. UNI is a top dual team this year and is a good example of why a dual team championship would be great for the sport. But as you noted, they probably are not going to place as high at NCAAs. Hopefully the local fan base isn't expecting a top 4 tournament finish despite them possibly being a top 4 dual team.

They really need to stop taking team points away unless there have been multiple infractions, if at all. There is no way a causal fan could watch the coaches in the ISU/UNI dual and the Indiana coaches in the NU/IU dual and understand why IU lost a team point. To be clear, I loved seeing Metcalf and Schwab go at each other. Headgear throw should definitely not be a team point or any celebration either.

Agree. It would be nice if he could be introduced and recognized by the crowd at NCAAs. No clue in what capacity but it would be cool for him to get a standing ovation and recognized for his career and everything he went through.

I grabbed Ill with the thought that if Byrd wins (even if Davis goes) and the question at 157, it seems really hard for PSU to cover. Plus they could rest a starter since they will win the dual regardless. Other lines out today: Cornell -21.5 v. ASU Stanford -26.5 v. Duke Michigan -25.5 v. MSU Indiana +20.5 v Nebraska ( @Xmas32 is Nebraska sitting anyone? I like the Huskers if everyone goes on senior night) NW +29.5 v. Iowa ISU +13.5 v. UNI North Colo +3.5 v. Wyoming

125: Ramos 133: Ayala 141: Mendez 149: Lovett 157: Shapiro 165: MM 174: Haines 184: Starroci 197: Buchanan 285: Gable

Who is wrestling 157 for OSU? There was talk that they are determining their starter at Mat Town Open on Sunday. Do they send out Sasso or Cannon and then send both to Mat Town or rest both so Mat Town is a level playing field?

It's new in my state. Every state is difference so maybe they don't all have it.

More lines: Pitt +20.5 v. VT Maryland +1.5 v. Purdue MSU +28.5 v. Rutgers Vir +20.5 v. NC ISU +4.5 v. SDSU Wyoming -19.5 v. Air Force

Correct. I wasn't suggesting they are the same. But who you beat and lose to does impact your ranking. It's why 16-3 NcNeil is ranked 7 spots higher in today's coaches rankings than 16-1 Ty Whalen since he has better wins. Yep, since we won't know who will make the field yet, I was using WS top 30, which could change as guys steal spots, etc. Parco currently has 6 wins over guys in the top 30 at 149 (not counting Echemendia) and two more on the schedule and Johnson currently has 5 with 1 more on the schedule.

It didn't have to be a burned bridge. Wisconsin could have forgiven him. I'd argue hiring Bono has been far worse for Wisconsin's program than Donny interviewing somewhere without permission. What happens if they fire Bono and still don't land an Askren to replace him?

Parco still has Cartella and Young. Johnson just has Realbuto as far as QW left ( I also don't know how PJ would have 6 QW at 149). Assuming both win out, Parco will have 8 and Johnson will have 7 entering conferences. Even if QW is a tie, the coaches rank would need punish the B1G runner up for losing the #2 guy and reward someone without a top 10 win. NCAA seeding has been bizarre before so I will admit it could happen and shouldn't be written off, but it seems unlikely to me.

I am only questioning his ability to jump the B1G runner up and get the 3 seed. He isn't currently above the top 3 B1G guys in QW, RPI or CR. Even if the bracket has more top 30 guys, with the bracket format, Johnson will only get 2 or 3 more QW. depending on his QF match. The B1G runner up will probably get 2 as well and finish above another top 4 ranked wrestler.

125 Minn dec. 3-0 133 Iowa dec. 3-3 141 Minn MD 7-3 149 Iowa dec. 7-6 157 Iowa dec. 7-9 165 Iowa dec. 7-12 174 Iowa dec. 7-15 184 Minn dec. 10-15 197 Iowa dec. 10-18 285 Minn MD 14-18. Iowa win the dual

Initial lines are starting to come out. Lehigh -3.5 v. Penn PSU -20.5 v. OhSt Iowa -3.5 v. Minn

I get he is undefeated at 149 but he will still be behind the 3 B1Gs guys on quality wins, coaches ranking, and RPI. The B1G runner up will probably get higher quality wins at the B1G tournament than he will get winning the B12 tourney. He will have winning% and higher place at the conference, which might put him above the B1G 3rd place finisher. The B1G runner-up could have to beat D'Emilo/Webster and one of the the other 3 to make the finals. I don't see the eye test of beating Realbuto justify jumping the B1G runner-up.

I can only see the B1G 3rd dropping to 5th (and the drop from 4th to 5th isn't that big a deal as the quarter matchup is the same). McNeil has losses to Lovett and Parco so I can't see him jumping them. Johnson does not have a great resume at 149 this year, which I think is all the committee factors. Realbuto will probably be his best win and he may have to do it twice still. Realbutto losses to Lovett and McNeil prevent him from jump up in there. Maybe the Pac 12 champ can squeeze into the top 4 since they give conference champ weight but its tough to see multiple guys getting in front of the B1G 3rd.

Ferrari went from OkSt to Iowa for a cup of coffee Kerk went from OkSt commit to OhSt student to PSU wrestler Suriano took the long road from PSU to Michigan Most notable was probably Mocco going from Iowa to OkST. Since it has happened before NIL, I imagine it will certainly happen again in this new era.

He is obviously talking about the extra loss to Henson that no one else wrestled, not another (3rd) loss to a conference opponent.

Changing the topic from Terry's antics (don't care) to in match coaching. In the 2nd period of the Pinto/Kennedy match, Kennedy has a decent ride but it just controlling Pintos hips, does not make any attempt to turn Pinto and Terry is in the background just waiving his fist trying to induce a stalling call. It struck me as odd because after 20 points scored in the first and a stall ride on top, I didn't think a stall call was coming anytime soon and was surprised the coach was trying to induce a stall call as opposed to yelling coaching advise. And for the record, I think Terry is the best lightweight coach in the country. It just seems college coaches (not just Terry/Iowa) think their value add is to ride officials for calls more than coach their guys.

The craziest part is they also kicked a future national champ off their team for burglary but kept these guys on the team.

This is 100% correct. Even if he can beat Plott, he still not beating Star or Keck. Keep him in RS and get an extra year overlap with Bassett in the lineup. If Angelo has 2 dates, use them on both Minn and OSU duals.