Dogbone

I think most years the best tournament teams will be the best dual team with a few exceptions every year. I don't mind the idea of rewarding the top 12 with an auto invite but maybe the next 4 can be more like Wild Cards that are selected based on dual performance (Rutgers) or projected lineups the next season (Lehigh or ISU).

A coach has success and then uses that success to build upon it?? He is obviously taking to HS recruits and trying to market the program in a positive light. Crazy, I know. It's also crazy how many people associate the phrase "bought" as all transfers. Nebraska has taken transfers but not paid the six figures numbers that other have. Rathjen visited Nebraska but is transferring to UNI, I doubt he is getting "a bag"

He went to Nebraska out of HS. Was in the 40s on the Big Board. Willie had him as 165. He wrestled 157 his redshirt year but couldn't beat out Taylor or Lovett and then transferred to OSU and started the year at 157 before cutting down to 149 and becoming an AA. It didn't sound like he was a 149 long term but with Chittum, Cannon and now Stiles at 149-165, its not a bad problem to have. I forgot Chittum greyshirted at Iowa and could still take a redshirt

You mean Munaretto? I am not as familiar with the impact it would have on OSU's lineup but I don't see how Stiles addition would impact Bouzakis?

So looking at the question differently. And this goes for all recruiting classes, but isn't it more important to stack consecutive classes (2-3 years) than having 1 great class? I think to Iowa's 2020 and 2021 teams and I it was not it one class but the combination of the Kemerer's class and the Lee' class that made them a title team. To think of it differently, yes it would be impressive to land 4-5 of the top 10 on a big board in one class, but there a still a few guys who "under perform" in all classes, but it you need 2 guys who produce every year. Ohio State's 2022 class had 3 of the top 5 on the big board, but they have yet to challenge for a title and only produced a 4th place finish in 2023 in large part because their top recruits in 2021 and 2023 haven't provided meaningful points (Rocco did be has now transferred). I guess my question is really, what does it really matter who is TnT's best class if 1 indiviudual class doesn't correlate to success?

No need to besmirch all of the "content creators" on wrestling twitter where making a graphic is the gold standard!

I could be wrong, but I thought the Cornell kids take their gap years taking classes at Finger Lakes CC? Since they can't redshirt they still have 4 years of eligibility and I think a recent court ruling doesn't count community college against eligibility (should they graduate early and want to transfer). Does anyone know if that is correct?

May 2

I don't think he has posted since the announcement, hopefully he didn't have to cut internet to fund the deal.

The top teams was invited. If a wrestlers is called to the mat but doesn't show up its a forfeit, you don't change the name or invalidate the guy who ended up winning. PSU doesn't want to put their foot on the line,fine, but they don't then get to say the name should be changed. If PSU wants to be the National Duals Invite champs then they can show up, but they are choosing to let someone else win that title.

It's certainly their choice, but there is no need for them to make comments like its not a real national duals or downplay the event because they didn't accept the invitation. It's a chance to grow the sport and create a cool event. . Cael doesn't think it helps his team win NCAAs in March so they are not going regardless of the impact it could have. I agree it's fine that they don't want to go, but its telling that everyone thinks this is a good idea.

At this point, I don't think you should be surprised by this behavior from PSU fans, it more par for the course.

Not if you are Terrelle Pryor.

By hate you must mean when I say "I do enjoy it"

OkST roster is pretty full so it might be tough to take a college guy. I would think the Georgia guys might be the most inclined to follow Roper but not sure where they would fit.

Agree OkSt should try and make their RTC as strong as possible. Assume Keck is going 86 and would compete with Zahid.

Is there a class that college coaches take where you learn to speak for for few minutes, allude to something indirectly without actually saying anything and then act like you spelled it out perfectly? It's almost like listening to Tom Brands speak. I do enjoy it, but find it funny that he goes on a podcast and after no one knows why he really left, the point of the podcast was to explain it not just talk for 30 min

If you take pictures you didn't take and put that information in text over it after the info is public, then you might have a business

The classic, I know something you don't but I am not going to say what it is...

Yes, the HOF was intended to be hyperbole but you were flabbergasted that there is still wide range on his potential has a coach. He did a good job coaching 1 of 10 guys for 1 season. Chertow was an assistant on a runner-up team and that being Gilman's floor is not crazy.

He should get credit for Spratley but 125 is such a toss up weight. He was at PSU last year when Davis didn't AA and none of their other lightweight at OSU AA'd, including 133 who didn't qualify for NCAAs. He did a good job this year but he has only coached for 1 year. Let's not put him in the HOF of coaches just yet.

And I thought when they were called Okie Lite it was offensive because of the "Lite" part so I always try and be respectful and call them Okie State.

Lenny Pinto to Rutgers is official: https://scarletknights.com/pinto.aspx

Unless you want to go down the donor dinner rumor mill, the most likely story is he wants to go back closer to his wife's family and didn't love coaching enough to continue to make the sacrifice.