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I think it’s you have to get a turn

I actually don’t hate most of the rules. Though I do think the 5 sec rule for ankle hooks is unnecessary if refs are calling stalling for not attempting turns

@Jason Bryant has worked up a really good conference alignment proposal. Can you post it again?

This is especially true when you consider the fact that slamming straight down isn’t even the best way to clear your arms out

The girl on top didn’t really try to clear out either time. The second one especially looked like it was just to slam her head. And.. multiple people I know agreed that the top girl knew about the others concussions Yes I know that shouldn’t play a factor. But.. reality

This. People can call it “hating” but at the time it occurred it was a very clear case of fighting a rule change because it would hurt his team that year.. not because it he actually had legit reasons All the coaches who people have talked about opposing it all had lost to Minnesota. It’s why it’s so hard to change any rules for the better. Coaches only think short term. It’s the exact same attitude as the coaches who put experienced kids in rookie tournaments. Just in a bigger scale

Could you repost the links so they work?

Dake v. Taylor NCAA Finals

Alirez vs Woods breakdown

He very much got extra chippy this year to stay motivated so I wouldn’t be shocked

Lol

It’s not just college. The trend in high school is even worse. And no I’m not saying this because I’ve lost kids. I’ve actually been told I should do more to poach and “acquire” talent. I can simultaneously be happy about the better coverage and exposure and be concerned about trends

But don’t you know it’s impossible to make wrestling fun if you aren’t winning all the time????

I’m not self aggrandizing. There’s plenty of people doing better than me. It’s why I don’t usually bring up my team in arguments like this because people love if you will just make it about that and ignore the actual point.. You’ve been insisting pretty vehemently that the only thing that the only thing that can make wrestling fun is winning and anything I else is either poppycock or participation trophies. And getting irritated at the suggestion not agreeing is just stupid. And doubling down. Don’t back off what you’ve been insisting on now that I actually gave you a response

I’m honestly getting the impression the big figures/coaches see this and either 1. just want to win as much as they can before it crashes down 2. Want to “win” so bad and want as little depth of competition as possible and poaching other coaches work just makes “winning” easier Either way. It’s become pretty obvious that the trend is towards poaching and eliminating depth of competition. Then finding excuses to justify it

You know what… can’t really argue.

The reason it wasn’t common is because wrestling isn’t a big kid sport compared to bb and fb..

Alright meat head tough guy. Let’s see if we can break this down for you. I know it’s probably pointless since you react like a wet cat to the idea there is wrestling knowledge you wouldn’t know.. Of course losing isn’t fun. Of course winning helps. That doesn’t mean you can’t create an environment where working hard and training and improving is fun.. also providing kids a place where they belong and something to believe in also helps. Some quit regardless, but less than you’d think if you create the right environment. If you were “correct” about your attitude about this. I wouldn’t have a team or any retention.. I wouldn’t have had every returning wrestler, at minimum.. triple their wins from last year to this year. I wouldn’t have had the entire team fighting and arguing over who should get the most improved award to the point that I almost had fights between kids.. And I’m not self aggrandizing either. There’s plenty of coaches doing better than me doing the same thing. Especially because I don’t pattycake my schedule and throw out first year kids against high level competition rather than forfeit... and I’m not exactly the best at “sandwiching” my positive to negative comments… I’ve actually been told I’m too intense by some very intense big names. Of course winning helps keep kids. But maybe you should try to process the fact that what made wrestling fun for you isn’t the end all be all. and maybe you should realize not having your attitude also doesn’t mean that we’re giving participation trophies either

All American vs national qualifier

I really want west coast wrestling to do well

Fingers crossed

Also true, I remember people stressing about Oklahomas program as well though

That would be super crappy to Stanfords program and might even put the program at risk again… especially given how much they paid him

The mental aspect was big

Lol.