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Well...as much as you post here and as often as I post here, you'd think I'd know THAT, now just how much you talk about Penn State and Iowa. And what happens? It's Wrestling dude. I've had 15...16 surgeries. There's no avoiding it. They'll come for everyone. Concussions aren't generally the result of training-Shapiro. Vito has ben pretty consistently healthy, but they pile up. Especially when it's Sr level Wrestling. So...I don't know why "nobody" talks about it because I give it so little thought.

I don't know...they seem to perform well in March, so it's really not an issue. That's the key component people don't seem to be getting when they belabor this point made by both their own fan base or other fanbases. 1-It's about their College team. 2-It's about doing the best you can to keep them healthy and performing well at a high level. It's not about a 34 year old Kyle Dake getting banged up, or a ~27 year old Vito Arujau who trains part time with Titan on the West Coast. Seriously, Iowa fans...let this one die. You've been keeping it going for so long...

LOL...imagine living in this world? A Matt Walsh documentary! The guy who studied "the trans issue" for decades and then when asked how many kids(ie, those below 18) were on HRT, he said "oh million, millions," and...about 3-5 minutes later, Rogan, dubious of the intellectual Matt Walsh's claims fact checks him...4200, less than 1000 a year! That's where you're getting "the left" can't answer what is a women? How pathetic is your life dude? You live in a social media bubble. I guess the right then is a short, fat, bald middle age to elderly man espousing racial slurs with their fat wives...and they can't wait to stop talking about a civil war! I mean, I see that on social media! Also, how ignorant are YOU that you're just constantly asking what a women is and being asked to leave? I can picture it, foam coming out of your mouth, screaming, 'ANSWER THE QUESTION! WHY WON'T YOU ANSWER IT, WHAT IS A WOMEN,' as the scared day care assistant ushers the kids back inside!

Was his wife there? That's the only reason I'd really care...it'd still be his fault, but you feel bad for her.

A world gold medalist vs a world silver medalist... A 4X NCAA Champ vs a 2X Champ That's a horse apiece IMO. I think PJ Duke is gonna be the guy who takes over the 74KG weight for about a decade in the near future. It MIGHT not happen until Carr-Mesenbrink get to Wrestle in LA, but it's the perfect weight for him. He can grow into it and he's obviously already elite.

I'll still take Ross over Bassett. Finding a guy who can dominate and score points at HWT is harder than finding a '49 pounder. The way Blaze is getting to his offense? That's gonna be a problem! His defense is so insane, if he can keep getting to the legs and scoring, he could be a 3X and win it next year at '33 and would end up at...what, '49 most likely.

You are just an incredible moron. 1-We're talking about POLITICAL ASSASSINATIONS. That you're even citing Tesla's "Being damaged" is a sign you know you're soooo full of crap here kid. 2-Trump was shot by a WHITE REPUBLICAN. -You had the right storm the CAPITAL in order to stop the PEACEFUL transfer of power...for the first time EVER. -A plot to KIDNAP Gretchen Whitmer - Buffalo, New York (May 2022): 10 Killed by kid espousing the "Great Replacement theory. Allen, Texas (May 2023): Far right nutjob killed eight people at a shopping mall. He wore a "Right Wing Death Squad" patch and had tattoos of fascist symbols. Jacksonville, Florida (August 2023): A shooter killed three Black individuals at a Dollar General store. Authorities confirmed the attack was racially motivated, with the perpetrator leaving behind writings expressing hatred towards Black people. How about JUST Black Churches shot up RECENTLY? 1. Emanuel AME Church, Charleston, SC – June 17, 2015 White supremacist Dylann Roof entered the congregation and killed nine Black worshippers at a Bible study. It was classified as a domestic terrorism and hate crime. Roof was sentenced to death 2. St. Stephen’s Episcopal Church, Vestavia Hills, AL – June 16, 2022 A 70‑year‑old gun dealer opened fire during a potluck dinner, killing three senior parishioners and wounding one. He was subdued and later sentenced to life in prison en.wikipedia.org. 3. Shiloh Gospel Temple (predominantly Black), North Providence, RI – February 2024 Arsonist Kevin Colantonio attempted to burn the church exterior, motivated by racist writings found at his home. No injuries occurred, but he faces federal charges that could bring decades in prison Should we keep going? Gabby Giffords, Paul Pelosi, on the Minneapolis riots set off by a White Supremacist COP who covered his face, but was too stupid to cover other identifying markers. And seriously, stop with "Pol Pot." It's a punch line and I thought it was a joke, but because you know how stupid it was to bring up Pol Pot when talking about the greatest threats to DOMESTIC TERRORISM, you have to double down now and force some tenuous connection. I'm not going back and doing the Pol Pot, Hitler thing because you're not intellectually capable of understanding that fascism is far right because you're not capable of having that type of intellectual debate and you just post someone else's YouTube videos...LOL... So we're JUST going by actions. I can see why you'd want to cite "damaged cars," when talking about TERRORIST attacks.

LOL... no, you didn't say anything with any level of nuance. You just later found an article from THIRTY YEARS AGO that said his "legacy lives on," and you...DIDN'T READ IT! it had NOTHING to do with the left or Domestic Terrorism! You're too dumb to actually red what you write, but it's even more obvious you didn't read that NYT article

Minnesota shooting suspect told friend in text message: I might be dead soon | Reuters Pol Pot was behind another Domestic Terrorist attack...

You moreso than others. You cited Pol Pot as the largest Domestic Terrorist threats. You see Pol Pot shoot up any Democrats today?

LOL... PSU has a World Champ, a guy who just took 3rd and now a World Team Member all joining their record breaking team last year. Wrestlers who will score a single team point for Iowa in the future-0 Wrestlers who will score points for Penn State in the future. Duke beat a 4X Champ and a World Silver Medalist... Blaze just smoked a guy who's a 3X AA and took 2nd at a weight higher than he'll Wrestle! Haines won easily and Mesenbrink is running through 165 the next 2 years. But impressive little narrow pathway for Iowa to tie PSU in...some way!

I'd ask again why you are the way you are, but I'd get nowhere. Lee was a heavy favorite. Barr...was also a dog. Duke is a Sr in HS who wrestled a 4X National Champ. Did ANYONE think these guys were "unbeatable?" In fact, I think Flow picked these matches and...didn't they ALL pick this except for Mesenbrink?

I mean...I'm not saying you're "wrong." This is a totally subjective exercise to begin with and frankly a little pointless.... other than just BSing and having fun! Who's better, LeBron or Jordan, Brady or Montana...it's really all just subjective and people love arguing them. I think Dake, peak Dake at 149 was better at the NCAAs and would have beaten Caldwell. I also think Metcalf is right up there with Zain and anyone else at 149. That would seem contradictory, I get that. But I'm also thinking about that Caldwell 19-3 loss vs Metcalf in the same season he beat Metcalf by throwing the kitchen sink at him. I see a 149 NCAA Dake not being scored on, at LEAST not easily...and then just riding the hell out of Caldwell. But being as it's a fictional matchup... so you can't be wrong. I'd also argue that...149 when Caldwell won it wasn't particularly tough relative to any other year. Kyle Ruschell took a 3rd, Bryce Saddoris was in the semis. Both tough Wrestlers, but not quite like the prior year with Burroughs, and that "toughest weight ever," discussion. Brooks did lose to Marcus Coleman. That's my mistake. And yes, Askren being ahead of his time and you're belief that he was better at his "peak" definitely makes sense to me. All these make sense to me. Each point. Askren's... appearance also belied his strength and physical ability. I remember Dana White insulting him physically, but anyone remember him in on a single, arms stretched out, Jake Herbert, a BIG '74 pounder and Askren was on his stomach, Herbert was heavy hipping the hell out of him, he was trying to break his grip to get around behind and he couldn't. Askren's grip was insane and his shoulder strength AND flexibility was...just freakish. I don't think there's a Wrestler who could match him in that regard.

Very. I don't think he's touching Zain. I think Metcalf tried to bully guys a bit too much and got out of position and Caldwell let it fly, but...for instance, Soph Dake is dominating Caldwell...IMO. Also, didn't Metcalf tech Caldwell that year? May have been the All-Star Classic, but, I thought he teched him the same year he lost. Caldwell got the spladdle, Metcalf came back and just overwhelmed him. But I could be off on the year. He took a loss vs an Olympic Bronze Medalist. Who he lost to has to matter, no? Ruth lost to a guy who went 3,1,1,2 I don't think Nickal is beating Brooks. I just think Brooks had tougher brackets and Ryan Preisch and Nicholas Gravina, 1 AA between them(I think) wrestled Nickal to a 1 point match. He still won... but Brooks...I mean, the Olympic Bronze Medalist beating him in the B1Gs in OT... I think the way JB was ascending may be coloring that view. I remember him having a GREAT match with Andrew Howe where he jumped out to a lead and Howe just kept coming back and wearing him down. JB wasn't quite there yet(in terms of his peak) but if you think he beats Dake, Taylor...even Mesenbrink...I can see it. Askren, I think his peak year was his Jr year. What he did to Herbert and just how free he wrestled. The thing I'm doing is looking at how Starocci would Wrestle him NOW where he can limit the scoring and he's always in position, but nobody could do that to Askren. Take that Askren and put him in the 2025 NCAAs and I think Starocci beats him. But I can see the last two...I definitely can't see the two before that and I don't know who wins peak Abas vs peak Lee, so sure! They're definitely different perspectives and I don't have a problem with Askren over Starocci because...again, I think just going by tittles is boring and misleading. Not that I have a problem with any, the only one I think is a bit out there is Caldwell, but he did put on a display vs Metcalf!

I don't like Metcalf(the Wrestler...not the human, I don't know him). I just found so much of what he did to be performative and I don't care for the extra shoves and the pushing yourself up off a guys head and the extra shove out of bounds. It's...fake tough to me... BUT...when I saw someone say he didn't belong in the discussion, I thought that was...ridiculous. I think it's a given that as a Freshmen, he'd have competed for an NCAA Title. I think he'd have won it...which would have made that Caldwell match all the more important historically, but...still, he was the best Wrestler in the Country. Just as I still think Stevenson was the best Wrestler at HWT this year and Spencer Lee at 125 a few years ago. Not taking anything away from Caldwell. He did it twice. He wasn't afraid to pull the trigger and Metcalf's style was a detriment in that match, but IF you give Metcalf a 4th year, I think it'd be a REALLY tough call. But I don't know how you go against Retherford. 3X at 149... I don't think Ruth ever let his foot off the gas, I just think the sport got easier for him. Are you crazy for thinking a guy who went 3/1/1/1 would beat a guy who went 2/2/1/1? No...of course not. Ruth is an all-time great. Maybe he beats Starocci and Brooks. He was so smooth and so easy, relaxed. But it's an opinion. It comes down to how do you think Askren scores on Starocci/Ruth vs how do you think they score on him. I think Starocci was so methodical and Ruth was similar, but he was also more aggressive pulling he trigger in other area's that it may have actually hurt him.

What are you babbling about now? You're certainly not the only one who thought he'd be able to Wrestle at FinalX. In fact, most did. Saying "no one cares," is ignorant. Meanwhile, Downey, who you are a big fan of for some reason did about 20X what Snyder did and was not wanted just about anywhere. But sure, it was for "just breathing."

I'm sorry, what the hell am I missing? How is HE classless? Can't be this part. We all agree with this; Ignorance...as most of us are about the cause or his vaccination history. Still...hoping he makes a full recovery. Still not seeing what's classless yet. This surely can't be it. This is just... information how it could have gotten it a number of different ways and in no way focuses on Askren's personal issue or lies any "blame" or does anything to show any lack of class...so far as I can see.

Well...again, I found one source that said it was a 4-3 loss to Moore in a duel. They could have interpreted that as a duel. It could also be why the last time I asked ChatGTP is says he only has 2 losses as a Freshmen(which we know isn't true). It could be applying the modern rules of the All-Star Classic to that era...so assuming it doesn't go on your record when in fact it did back then? Seems like the most likely scenario to me. Just found the duel. It's gotta be the 9-8 All-Star Classic...Abas is undefeated 23-0. I'm watching this and thinking Abas gets hosed a couple times, namely on the lack of NF at the end and then HE get *I poop my pants, don't laugh at me* for stalling while riding? I don't, Freshmen vs the National Champ that year though. Two scores at the end of the period that are easy calls now, but were called quite a bit differently back then. Thoughts?

Oh...my bad. I guess...just bad luck. I don't know. I didn't pick up on the fact that you were asking a rhetorical question. My bad.

I believe Abas lost to Teague Moore in a duel as a Freshmen(so that'd be '98) but not certain. His official record is 144-4...so I don't think he had 4 losses as a Freshmen since we all know he lost the following year. He was unbeaten his final 3 years at at his weight and his lone loss was moving up so it could only have been his Freshmen year. He had one loss going into the NCAAs. Though given the score I got was 4-3 and that was the score of the Guerrero loss(before adding the riding time after the match which someone writing about it may not have understood) maybe it was the AS Classic and there was some confusion. Either way, lost to Moore, then Jurgens, Jurgens and when he moved up, Guerrero. And I guess technically, the All-Star Classic is a duel. Posting this just...because. You seem to have a better grasp on the details of his accomplishments of me, so I'd be inclined to take your word for it...it would almost certainly mean he beat Moore again in a duel though, right? They wrestled OK State every year... I'm been looking but AI isn't verry "I" just yet. This is what I come up with(knowing he did lose 3 times as a Freshmen and pretty sure it wasn't his True Freshmen year)... So...it can be hit or miss and this was clearly a miss.

Yeah...your reply probably does...along with a description about WTF your point is. The topic however, that was specifically related to Trans, DSD, Wrestling and other athletics. That's why when you write; It's so funny because it's just proof you don't even bother to read the thread, you just come in with an assumption, jump in with a ridiculous post(from someone else) and then you're confused why it's not related to the thread. "many a battle," eh? Arguing with yourself. I believe that's multi-personality disorder. But Jimmy/Scout/LBJ was just waiting for YOU @1032004to make that connection! And he used that ever so timely reference from that 30 year old TV show to insult you(I think it was an insult). I'm rather fond of the ellipsis myself. They.... make....less....sense when you don't put them...where a pause... in the sentence for impact...should go. I'd ask what you were waiting for someone to pick up on from your poor use of ellipsis... even for informal writing. I must admit, I do just find you to be generally entertainingly stupid, but it's late and I have to do this tomorrow.

I did? Huh...I don't recall doing that, but alright. You mean in a thread specifically dedicated to trans and DSD participation in sports? Yeah, for that reason. You genuinely sound and write like a teenage girl. wow.... b/c like...it's about the topic it doesn't fit(and expression no women has EVER said to you incidentally). omg like....get a brain! Did you just snort like 5 Adderall and think that post was really some poignant stamps on the discussion that cleared everything up? You aren't even remotely close to the topic.

Wow Jimmy! That's insightful! I think that YOU think you made a point there, but you didn't. I don't think gay marriage is "confusing to kids," particularly as she was talking about HS students. I do think it's kinda cute how you came back here after denying trans people were breaking the law in Algeria, puffed out and posted that like you were making a point! I'm not getting sucked into guessing what the meaning behind a post YOU MADE was, alright Jimmy?

No little Jimmy, we're not getting stuck in another Jimmy loop where you post something that's at best tangentially related and then you say "make the connection." And why the hell would we argue she's at a school board meeting talking about gay marriage? And I don't think kids find "trans crap" all that confusing. She's pretty clear in what she's talking about there and...I'm not sure YOU'RE able to make the connection. It's not about athletics at all, so...not related to this issue. So....again, you found a tweet that got lots of likes and you just...reposted it here. Also, my GUESS would be her point was more about the overall suicide rate up about 35% among teens since 1999 and that's not because they're exposed to 'trans crap.' But again, had you made your own cogent point here, we wouldn't have to extrapolate what she was talking about from a Tweet with no context other than 'lots of us believe in god, not many LGBT people,' which took up like...one sentence.

Well, if she has 3+ minutes and she doesn't bring up trans kids in athletics once, it's...not this topic. Sounds like she's broadly talking about LGBT being in the minority, last she checked, we're a Democracy, 50+1(she hasn't checked very recently because that's not how it really works) but i don't know what she was talking about. She just yellled or 3 minutes and we had no prior context ot what they were even talking about OTHER than apparently...some people were saying some good things and she didn't like that and felt compelled o let people know 50% of people in North Carolina(+1) are God Fearing.