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I think anyone would argue that. I think you can go and find guys like...wasn't Greg Jones knocked the year he didn't win it in the Rd of 16 or 24? Things happen. The kid has won a Title. You don't get worse adding National Champions...

I'm pretty sure you are.

Didn't dismiss anything, just not going back and relitigating nonsense that's already been proven to be nonsense. Just setting aside the breadth of people who'd be ALL working against Trump...GOP state houses in Wisconsin, Penn, GA, AZ, NV...it's all stupid. And then you heard the people that came forward? I remember the Michigan hearings. The women who testified to...absolutely nothing there. No, being 5+ years out and still believing this nonsense after it's been exhaustively disproven shows a completely lack of critical thinking. And again...you brought up the Spanish Flu and other bizarre irrational arguments. I gave you too much credit. I thought you were too reasonable than to think Civil War a viable option and to still be in that delusional state of mind.

Yeah...CCP=Bad. That's not a hot take. We're actually saying the people of China are more divided than those of the US because of protests? I also wouldn't be so sure our Govt is any different, but in any event, I'm talking about the people.

And what do you suppose is happening to us? More importantly, they're dealing with ONE country. We're dealing with the rest of the world. Yet you insist we have all the leverage as equities plunge further?

Are you completely restarted? I HAVE done that, I did that from the start...why the hell wouldn't I? What have I EVER said that suggests I advocated calling for violence or destruction of ANY type? But while I do that, I hear how Jan6 really wasn't that big of a deal...it was propaganda. No. Because there's...a thing called context. Which ones? Like Cori Bush? How about when I JUST said one of the NEGATIVE side effects of Trump's disastrous trade is that as soon as we started getting people like Bush and Bowman out of office, he'll get them back in as it's going to be a bloodbath in the midterms(it is either way). What more "moves" would you like of me? I said I DIDN'T believe in violence as political recourse and I didn't believe that Republicans actually did as much as some of these polls said they did...and then when called out on it, accused of making up the polls, you then call me a "conspiracy theorist," and you claim that I actually do think all the Republicans are calling for violence. You want stupid compilation videos with 20 times Trump has called for violence including calling for a firing squad for Liz Cheney? Screw....the people here are probably right. It probably is too far gone. It was never going to be another Nation that took us down. Empires always crumble from within.

...when Trump was President, right? You're still using "they" to include...who? Just literally EVERYONE but the people who are enjoying Trump tanking this market?

Ok. I never said he was a "US Senator." He's an elected official who plainly called for Civil War. No, actually, if you'll go back, I said I DIDN'T believe that. Start from the beginning as this is the 3rd or 4th time I've told you that. I don't believe 50% of those on the left think murdering Musk is justified and I DIDN'T think most people on the right thought violence was justified...until the people pretending to be outraged by it on here started to advocate for it and tell us how it's going to go. Again...because I said I've seen a lot of polls about people on the right that I DON'T believe and then Jimmy demanded me to provide examples? Jesus Christ...alright...I'm learning my lesson. You're apparently not reading what I'm writing. I was gonna go point by point, but...it seems pointless. You'll unlikely even read what I wrote here.

...so you're not even gonna try and make the unity argument? Damnit... I was hoping someone would! I find this depressing. This was a clown thread.

@Ohio Elite Tell me he's wrong? You think we're more united that the Chinese people? Look at the other thread. jross is pointing out a poll that he finds dubious(At least that's how he presents it) and it says nearly half of people on the left think killing Musk and 55% think Killing Trump is justified. I responded I thought that was crazy and I hoped it wasn't true...just as I hoped some of the polling I'd seen about election denialism and people downplaying J6 was not true among those on the right....and look where it went? To the original poster talking about how...eventually the steely eyed and stoic will act...and then some nonsense about a 200LB Mastiff and a 10 Jack Russell(his analogy for the right vs the left in said Civil War that I'd...hoped people hadn't actually meant, but was just mindless social media excrement. It's not. China is FAR more unified. And for anyone talking about China protesting....have they seen the US? Cities Burning, storming the Capital, families armed to the gills trying to go to the polls to "stop the steal," the President nearly being shot. I don't think he's a clown for saying that at all. I do think he's being a clown openly cheering China hitting us back with tariffs, but please, I've lost all faith. Tell me how we're NOT more divided?

Yeah...that IS a 200% increase on Temu with all those fake deals...that's what I was assuming you were getting at...in on manner or another.

Is China losing ALL of their trade? And he said, "can't survive." I think it's accurate to point out...they very much can and have.

By the way...can I ask...how was it not "real?" He said it those words on the National Stage. But it is good to know you don't believe what you posted and you think it's "not real" or "credible."

Oh boy... @Caveiracalls it "conspiracy theory" and then when I post for the 2nd time a Republican Senator calling for...a CIVIL WAR, he tries to equivocate. ANYONE calling for the assassination of a Political Leader should be condemned. Why is it SOOO hard for you to do that? I celebrated Cori Bush losing her election(and yes, it happened on HERE...which is apparently the only place any of this counts). Though...I'm confused why you posted a video in which THREE times Obama says something that has NOTHING to do with violence? The last quote, the real ominous one? He was at a fund raiser you twit. This is the problem with "whataboutism." You justify everything instead of just saying, "that's too f-ng far," and condemn it. But I see very clearly from this thread, the extremism that I thought was only on the corners of the internet is very much real. You can't even just CONCEDE that talking about a Civil War if your side doesn't win...is a BAD thing.

I mean, I'd say we "started" this one, but I don't understand all the "Go China" crap. Then again, I just posted on another thread about how I didn't think most people who were center or to the right were of the belief the election was rigged and J6 was not a big deal and...then I was proven wrong. So...I guess it's all or nothing. You're on the left, it's celebrating the further decay of the Middle Class(this hurts the middle class far more than the wealthy). And then the elections are rigged unless your guy wins them... Jesus Christ is this depression. There's nothing pro-America about almost any of these posts. And YES, China is a bully. They're a huge bully. They didn't start THIS, but...whatever. I don't even care about the US being bullies to China. I just care about them doing it EFFECTIVELY. That isn't putting tariffs on every other Country so it's China AND THE WORLD against us.

LOL...you're a joke. I posted an ELECTED REPUBLICAN stated; But...ALL you asked was to show me where people were talking about it. Where did I get this from. A Republican Senator says...we're going to need a Civil War if WE don't get OUR way, and that's a "conspiracy?" Jesus Christ...just tell me you don't know what conspiracy means.

First of all, why are you so obsessed with what I PERSONALL posted? https://truthout.org/articles/republican-at-vance-rally-says-civil-war-may-be-needed-if-trump-loses-election/ Or does this again not fit what becomes an ever more narrow definition because I have to have held your hand and pointed this out to you on a forum I didn't post about a whole lot politically before the election? 54% or Republicans believe a....CIVIL WAR is coming. https://www.chathamhouse.org/2024/02/could-united-states-be-headed-national-divorce Now, I ALREADY posted these, so not reason to expect this to work. You and Jimmy seem to have that in common.

But...in a few years when we talk about this era, hopefully a distant thought and as close to authoritarianism as we get(anyone remember when people threw a tantrum when Obama signed ONE executive order rather than just...bypass all Congress by making EVERYTHING an executive order)? Anyway...keep pretending you're seeing the LEFT threatening violence. Now...I'll admit, this was the lamest and most pathetic attempt to "intimidate" by comparing yourself to a dog and...that game, but please, you still haven't seen anyone talking about it other than me and Red Viking?

Ok...I get it. You are just another clown. That SAYS it's Red Viking quoting Red Viking? Or is that jross?

No, it says Red Vikings talking about the Rhetoric he heard and then Jross talking about how it's not just rhetoric. Then JRoss...thinking HE'S the big tough guy. And yes, You're right. I said if people of his ilk are insane enough to want to start a civil war, I'll stay in my home with my guns and let the people who think this is cute or a fun little topic fight it out. I really can't tell if you're serious and pretending to not see what other people are saying because they're not SPECIFICALLY saying Civil War(oh, get your clicker out!)... And what did you make of the comment about the Mastiff and the Jack Russell? What do you think was trying to be inferred there?

Really Jimmy? So before Nixon opened China up to trade with the US, they must have had a VERY small Economy, right? No? They've had the 2nd largest for most of the last 500-600 years? Before the US was a Nation? Yeah, they'll never "survive" without our trade.

Hey...stoopid. How about the person who STARTED this thread who plainly said it WASN'T "just rhetoric" and very clearly talks about it here? Jesus...you just see whatever you'd like, don't you?

I'd imagine the people talking about... Are you illiterate or do you just skip over the posts of the people who you already agree with?

Yeah...this is a CRAZY thing to say;

Well...I said I'd hope people wouldn't feel like that and then the author of the thread goes on to glorify the idea of a civil war where the "calm, clear-eyed stoics" eventually "move to violence." He sounds like the people who go and commit a mass shooting. This and this thread is one of the most depressing things I've seen in a while. You started about how YOU and people of your political ilk had the moral high ground...and how quickly you came to this?