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Also, just to be clear, Red VERY CLEARLY mentions the Bond Market in BOTH of them. You understand that means foreign Countries are dumping US Debt in MASSIVE quantities because they don't have faith in the US dollar or because they are being hit with irrationally high 145% tariffs.

Dude...how do you not see it's all of them? The one thing he set out to do, the FIRST priority, to "cut or a economic disaster," he's not doing. That actually got 50B dollars WORSE. -Then on TOP of that, you add that he did that while CRIPPLING the markets and causing people to lose trillions, but without a doubt hurt the middle class the worst(those who have a retirement fund and maybe they have 200K-1M in it and they sold on the way down because they were afraid he wouldn't stop...because he said he wouldn't stop and it would go down another 20-30%...and now they triggered massive penalties, taxes and then they lost that vlaue when it went back up because they don't have the money to "be patient." Here's a simple answer. Bond Market-Bigger deal to Trump and what he was trying to accomplish short term. Stock Market-BIG deal because he did everything for no reason. To use his analogy, he did the operation, it was terrible, the patient now has a colostomy bag, he's unable to walk, move...and THEN we found out the whole point for the surgery...well, surgery only made it worse. Jimmy, the one constant is you don't have a clue what is going on. Why the 10 year is important, why what happened with the Bond Market was a disaster. I have had time to look into this, but...if you can get 4.5%...Trump did all of this for literally nothing.

Jimmy! Are you kidding?!? China just start dumping US debt and it just HAMMERED the bond market! Trump wanted rates at 2% and they're at 4.5% right now! This was not the plan. This is 50B dollars more for the 10T he has to restructure coming due this year. If this was his plan ALL ALONG, it is without a doubt...the dumbest, most poorly executed plan in the History of Presidential Fiscal Policy. This was an unmitigated disaster! China could keep dumping US debt and just...HAMMER the US further. Both sides need to work something out...but my god what a joke. Putting 20% tariffs on China and threatening the rest of the world, that...well, that would have been crazy, but alright. Putting 10% or 50% on Australia or countries we're strong allies with is...remarkably stupid.

So you post a link from Oct of 2023...and say it's "coming" out as though you're posting breaking news? LOL...alright dude.

How is this HELPING your argument? They talk about a witnessed who lied to HURT the Bidens and it was so easily proven he lied, he's serving time in jail(Alexander Smirnov). And then it's simply reporting that the intelligence community is looking into the crazy Ray Epps stuff. That's somehow "geting closer?" Are you reading what you post? Because if you are, you'll see why Reuters IS a good source. It'll report what it knows and not...makek things up.

This is not a guy to be taken seriously.

They export trinkets and shoes and things that can easily be manufactured in Vietnam or elsewhere. We export things like Semiconductors that the rest of the world needs.

That's done, that's over with. There is an Israel. Palestinians had the choice of dealing with it and makin their own state or... continually going to war with an ENTIRE REGION on their side vs Israel. They choose War. They lost land. They wanted that land back. They didn't get it. So they choose war again. Lost more land. They got some of that land back. They didn't get it. The US started negotiating with allies, coming up with peace treaties. Camp David and the Oslo Accords being the two most significant. They continue to go to war. They continue to lose. They continue to think they should get a do-over. Not how that works.

No, Miley is a commie. He said bad things about Trump, ergo...Commie.

Jimmy, stop it. Again, you're just repeating BS you've read online. No, that's...not what happened...at all. We put them on Japan, Australia(arguably, our most important ally given Pine Gap and how vital that is to US intel). We did that for no discernible reason other than Trump thinks tariffs are a good way to raise money. If I need money... I don't just start charging friends and people who rely on me. It's... well, it defines Trump perfectly.

Bud, the John Stewart one is a TERRIBLE one to be bringing up...NOW. Where do you think Trump's approval rating has gone the last 3 weeks? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-approval-rating-trade-war-b2731702.html (I really don't follow which sites you guys consider legit or not other than the clever nicknames for CNN and MSNBC, so if you don't like that one, even Rasmussen has him falling proportionately the same). I'm not sure if anyone realizes how...incredibly moronic Trump went about these. He could not have handled any of this worse. Though, it is amusing how Trump got as much credit as he did for...slowing down his bungling of this!

Red...Trump would have to SIGN that legislation. You keep skipping over that part. We're not EVER going to have enough to override a veto, so that dream is NOT going to happen And the GOP isn't going to override THESE tariffs(though still dumb, they're not as bad). And I don't know why you keep saying China can survive these. You don't think we can? We are 1/4th of the world(a bit more) and then we have all the rest of the world. Their GDP will grow and China...they're not doing great right now. You want to root against the bully, it's a draw here(at best). But one of those bullies is at least ours. The other bully is the same bully that the Democrats have been railing against for years. Now Trump did this in the dumbest way possible and VERY different than every Democrat suggested, but it's still broadly speaking something they advocated. So... give up hope on the tariffs going back to the congress anytime soon. It's staying with POTUS for the rest of his term.

Of course I am. Only on this website though(which I thought was odd). I'll do that though.

Cool. Speaking of "software gremlins that slow the system," I keep getting alerts from my Norton telling me this website is dangerous because "maleware advertising threats detected," and I'm wondering...what can you do for me?

Jimmy...you really can't on multiple occasions mock that I'm putting my Mom in Hospice and then play the victim. It's...I mean, you can I guess...it's just a bit whinny there sport. And I did say you couldn't be that dumb. I genuinely believe it was largely an act...but all too often, I'm proven wrong. That it's not. That you are...in fact, this stupid. LOL....omg, what????????? I'm sorry, I was just thinking back to some of your replies. You were saying?

Also Jimmy; Hmmmkay.

No, not just all over his leg. This was more like going to bed drunk and just having a very explosive problem. It went everywhere. He was rolling in it all night, just...messed himself. All over the place. Rolling in it. He got some in his hair(which I picture to be like Spongebob), it's up and down his back, it's...a full on bio hazard. He'll need a whole team of people wearing the Ebola suits to come in there, pick him back up and clean him off while they do a controlled burn as it's...it's all ruined. What he left behind? I mean, in terms of just disasters, there's Palestine, Ohio and there's Jimmy right now and I don't know which was worse, but they were both bad. One was amusing to see. The other, not so much.

Well, @red vikingI don't agree with some of your takes here...which I think is actually more normal as...agreeing on everything and having the same talking points because we're both left of center makes us more of a cult...but at least we're never gonna sound as stupid as this ineffectual lil guy!

Red...c'mon man. First of all, HOW will it end in 21 months? You reaize it's VERY unlikely the Dems win the Senate, right? Michigan, Tillis in NC, there was one or two others that the Dems MIGHT win, but it's pretty unlikely. House, definitely gonna turn blue. It'd turn blue no matter who was POTUS with this margin. So...lets say they write a bill reclaiming control over tariffs. The Senate passes it along...and ya THINK Trump will sign it? Finally, it DOES sound like you're pulling for China, I don't know what it means you want "everyone to stand up to the Bully." THEY ARE THE FNING BULLY!!! Do you think Stealing intellectual property that cost you HUNDREDS of billions of dollars is alright? Currency manipulation that makes trade inherently unfair. And then more illegal things that are 100% traced back to the CCP as Russian Cororate espionage by the KGB was performed at the behest of the KGB, but...lets forget about that. And you hoping they can just outlie Trump...that IS you rooting against the United States. I couldn't have the guy more. I honestly couldn't. Nothing he can do will convince me he cares about others people or is a good guy. But if you're rooting for him to fail, it's leading for the US to fail and...now you're just as bad as him as you're making everything ALL about him. Just Trump. Trump wins or loses. They stood up to Trump and won. The effects on 340M Americans is ancillary? C'mon dude...you're better than that.

I would. Greco is less skilled Wrestling...IMO, I understand others feel VERY differently about this. Greco may be tougher...

Yes...wanting to exist is...that's an issue. An entire REGION wishing for their elimination...so terrible. Hamas leadership calling for all Jews to return to Judea(not just the "Zionist," but EVERY-SINGLE-JEW. Why? It's easier to kill if they're all in one place. It's tragic that children are dying. It's tragic Hitler created the Hitler youth and so many children died in WWII. Oh, speaking of WWII, the Arabs in that region were allies with...who? It's the name mentioned above. They came up with the mobile crematoriums. They wanted the Jews evacuated from the Ottoman Empire called "Palestine." And the British... they split the land up. No unwringing that bell. But they gave each a chance to form a Govt. One did, one didn't. The one that didn't has been starting War after War after War for decades after decade... That's why we need the Iranian people...who...again, loved the West and were the more American-like Country in the Region, they need to step up and hopefully they can overthrow the Govt' and you eliminate the funds for the terrorists and they...stop having and raising kids so they can make them martyrs. By the way, in "Palestine," there were a whole lot of Jews there despite it not being anyone's Country. Though, if we play the game of "who was there first," the Jews win that one. But, ideally, you take Iran off the board in terms of funding them and UNRWA from the US and...they can reach a REAL peace deal. I'm ALSO rooting for...Trump to do that. Then he'd have accomplished something...as opposed to the "Abraham accords," which...actually only made things worse(though...this was happening either way). By the way ~75% of people in Palestine believe in apostasy. 72% of Palestinians and 82% in the West Bank approved of the Oct 7th attacks that left women raped, bloody, their naked bodies broken like dolls a child plays with, paraded through the streets. And THEN you have the fact that...like cockroaches, they scurry around underground and hide in places like...UNWRA refugee camps...where they also keep prisoners. Maybe not the family that they killed(ya know, the ones with the two little boys) but... "When they start loving their children more than they hate us." Sorry Red...I'm with you on a lot of things...this isn't one of them.

Yeah, dude...you're just wrong here. China is objectively worse in every possible way. TRUMP may be as bad as Xi, but Trump, like every POTUS is temporary(hopefully). China has been corrupt and they've been skirting international trade laws and the WTO rules forever. Xi said he's willing to go to War? Where? An ACTUAL War? That would hurt the United States and leave their Navy in ruins...and it'd COMPLETELY destroy the Chinese Military. China can't go to War and win. They made their move offering an alliance with Japan and SK, a separate one with India, but they all stayed with the US. This hurts the US without question, but...it hurts China at this point worse and AGAIN, why are you pulling for China? China acted first. Trump acted stupidly and went WAY over the top with his opening salvo and he's a moron and he's all those things....and his actions impact the United States so I hope he falls assbackwards into successful trade deals and what not. I have little confidence he will, but still.

It's so cute. It was almost as cute as when he tried to sound like an intellectual on the Trump tariff disaster!

Nothing has changed. You don't care that Trump hasn't done one of the main things he ran on, but you care that Biden...hasn't done one of the things HE campaigned on. (Biden also didn't try and put someone in his administration that gave Epstein free reign for the last decade of his life.)

Whaaaat a second! Now it's funny? Child abuse? I thought this was important to you? That's alright. Hey, by the way, any chance you have long arms, go about 6, 6'1 and you can track a ball well? As well as you can come out of a back peddle, we could use you at CB.