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Yeah, they were not a power house. Still, it's cool to see schools on the level of Princeton have guys have that type of success. And they do have an elite recruit coming in as well as some other solid recruits.

This is not almost beating him. This is Kolodzik's first match being pulled from a RS and he was the clear aggressor and ONLY one actually attempting to score. This is akin to saying there's "no way" Starocci wins it this year if it hadn't been contest, or O'Connor wouldn't have won it because he lost to Ed Scott and then barely beat him. A Cornell guy who was familiar with him Wrestled him close. How many NCs had close matches with guys who were Wrestling to not get beat this past year or any given year? The only point I was initially making was that Princeton had a guy VERY recently who was competitive and a 3X AA in 3 trips, but people are really underselling him. He was a stud. He was the 2nd highest returner in that bracket and...AGAIN, he'd beaten the one guy who placed above him and had 4 or 5 wins vs the #1 seed(2 in 2019). The next point I'll make is the transitive property is not applicable to Wrestling. Because you Wrestled one guy close doesn't mean...really anything when predicting how that Wrestler would wrestle against other Wrestlers.

I thought he was a PSU alum*-not positive though. I'm pretty sure the size of the deals he's given to Nickal and RBY last year are MUCH bigger than other College athletes. Could be because they appear to be the best, most obvious athletes who'll transition. Especially RBY(edit-He says while Nickal is actually tapping dudes out in the UFC...) I don't think he's doing this without getting something back. It'll be interesting to see if he gets Starocci a deal while he's debating a 5th year or IF he's debating he may come back.

I mean, I was just thinking DT as the face of a program would bring in a LOT of top recruits to Ohio, he's friends with Dake... I don't know, there's not a lot of avenues I see for programs to compete with PSU. Jordan Burroughs seemed like a great option, but who's the HC? Plus, Dake and Taylor are friends. And I think DT would do better if he were talking about other athletes. Some people don't like talking about themselves(Dake has no such problem)...

I actually assumed he was coming back to Wrestle in College next year as well...just because he's been talking about it or suggesting he may return, Eggum has said he hoped to have him back and now that he's going to get back to Wrestling...why not Wrestle the 20 matches in College next year, win another Natty and then onto the Olympics? He said he wants to perform in front of big crowds...you don't get bigger crowds in Wrestling than CHA, Bryce Jordan...and then the NCAAs. But, we'll see. I'd imagine he wasn't super focused on school at the end there as he was already making quite a bit of money. But it'd be fun to see!

The gender gap was a pretty large part of the reason behind the changes; https://19thnews.org/2022/03/colleges-admissions-dropping-sat-exam-gender-gap/#:~:text=For SAT critics%2C test-optional,at a disadvantage for years. And if they REALLY gave a shit about equity, they wouldn't use legacy students as any measuring stick.

Yeah, I believe you...I'm just going off the National Averages. Biology for example, that's closer to upper 50s for girls. Physics, just the opposite and in the ~60s for boys. I completely believe you see 66% female in your AP classes.

It seems really weird to plea this down and not get probation out of it. Maybe they're using probation and then deferred judgement interchangeably(though, it'd be 12 months in that case).

...do you mean when Iowa was in the midst of winning 9 TITLES IN A ROW and 20 out of 26 years? I don't believe you're making the point you think you are here!

Yes. He signed RBY, got him some big NIL deals, he's repping Bo Nickal and a couple other PSU Wrestlers.

No, that makes perfect sense. The girls had better GPAs and the Boys scored better on the testing... AP classes are still split pretty close to 50/50 between male and female. Though that differs from subject, so...it'd defend on the subjects your teaching.

And THAT'S what really matters! In fairness, I doubt they had any clue he'd loss his chance to compete or that he'd be trading no NCAAs instead of 2 more NCAAs.

Yeah, they're implementing that because boys do better on tests and it was discriminatory vs girls...apparently...somehow. And yet there are a lot more girls/women getting admitted into the ivies(before they changed their rules). I needed my test scores to help me get into school. They helped me better than a very mediocre GPA.

Nobody said they were a threat to Penn State...that was literally the point I was making. ISU DOES however have the #2 recruiting class that mostly redshirted this past year and several Wrestlers who should contribute. Terukina is back off RS Redding was Rd of 12 Swiderski was the #2 recruit in the Country Johnson at '49 was one of the better Freshmen in the Country '57-Kraisser was Rd of 16 last year '65-Carr '74-97 Gaiten, Rojas and Bastida They have one potential hole in the lineup and a LOT of young recruits and Wrestlers with high upsides...but AGAIN, the point was that Penn State doesn't have a rival and they NEED someone to step up and become one for the good of the sport. That's why I mentioned Alabama and then used Clemson, Georgia and Florida State as examples. I think Iowa State is a team that has some young talent, and a guy like Bastida, another year into Folkstyle, he's as good as anyone on his feet, if he can get out, he could be in the finals. Johnson has massive upside. I don't know man, it wasn't that deep. I like Iowa State and what they're building and again, nobody is a threat to Penn State right now. That was...again, the main point.

Right, but thee Ohio State University is in Ohio....or so I'm told! It also happens to be where Taylor is from and is probably #2 in College Wrestling talent...which is why I picked it(again, a job that is not open and doesn't appear to be opening up anytime soon). Penn, Ohio, Cali, those would be my 3 states...but Penn and Ohio are different as they're so much more baked into the culture whereas Cali is just a number games. But, talent is coming from all over. Tenn, Kentucky...that's why a figure like David Taylor would be so important.

Yeah...I think he's at least as good at the same age as O'Toole was...which...I mean, we all know what O'Toole has done, how special he is. I don't want to say better as people think that's a slight against O'Toole, and I get that...and really I'm just trying to articulate what it looks like Hopke is.

Ok...well, I just don't agree. 16 of Lee's 20 wins this year where TFs or Pins. He was the clear cut Hodge winner up until a historic, top 5 all time upset for Glory to win it(probably top 2-3). 165 was a loaded weight and you can list a bunch of guys at 149, the fact is, Kolodzik had beaten the best of that group numerous times. And if you think it's MORE likely that Glory wins 125 going INTO this years NCAA as it was that Kolodzik going into 2020 or 2021...well...I see it VERY differently.

I don't know him or the family but for a few very brief interactions, but I have spoke to a close friend of the family with whom he works out with pretty regularly. I guess they're expecting him to be 6'4, maybe 6'5. The Dad is a big guy. I think he's about 6'2 right now. He also looks like he's long arms as well. I think he'll end up looking like a taller, longer Mason Parris, but I've got no clue. He just seems like a kid who's having fun, loves the sport and is an absolute hammer.

He's teased it for so long...might as well. Give yourself some regular competition, win another Title... Greg Kerkvliet just decided an Olympic RS was probably the best for him next year! Maybe Nevills sticks around for one more year? I'm not sure if he actually transferred yet or not. Something has to go right for UM here. Brayton Lee goes from #1 to injured and then hurt again this year, Nagao puts his name in the portal because someone put the idea in the air.

Right...and was just a few pounds over 220. 225 I think. I don't think he's lost...ANY match since 2018 or 2019. I'd pay to watch him and Keuter wrestle. They're both just such natural athletes.

Spencer Lee was -3000 to win the NCAA title this year. Those are cartoonish odds. People did NOT think it was 50/50 Glory would win it. In fact, it was barely 50/50 Glory vs Ramos. People talked about MAYBE if someone was going to beat Lee, particularly given what happened when he wrestled Ramos, MAYBE Glory after all day Saturday to get hydrated, MAYBE he might could possibly beat Lee late if EVERYTHING went right. Just like people talked about how Gomez could maybe beat Yianni again. It was never 50/50. And yes, I understand Kolodzik didn't wrestle a full season. I'd said he got his OLY RS pulled late in the season. That was the whole point. He got screwed by the decision to not wrestle the 2020 NC and then give the extra year NOT to the Sr's who Wrestled, but to the incoming Freshmen. Also, Kolodzik beat Lugo twice, O'Connor and Mauller(twice at the NCAAs) all in 2019 not 3 years before...the same year he lost a close match in the Semis. But I was never worried about how they seeded the tournament. That was your rationale for why Kolodzik was a bigger longshot. Because he had a lower seed than Glory. It's like saying Jon Trenge had better odds to win it despite being in a weight with Cael Sanderson than a #6 seed who was undefeated in the prior year vs all those seeded above him simply based on seeds. Glory and Monday were both MASSIVE longshots to win it. Kolodzik had as good of a shot as anyone in his weight class...

I'd assume if they had a betting line, Kolodzik would have had better odds to win a wide open weight class in 2021(or even moreso then 2020 tourney) than Glory who had Spencer Lee or Monday who had to get past both Carr and O'Toole in order to win a title. Kolodzik was a 3X AA who'd taken a 3rd, who lost to Ashnault in the Semi's 2-0 and there was no Yianni in that weight. Kinda baffling how he was the #6 seed in 2020 given he had multiple wins over the #1 seed(Lugo) the #2(O'Connor) and the #4 seed(Mauller) and he was undefeated, but...it's kinda moot at this point given...we didn't wrestled the tournament. The POINT was simply that Kolodzik had a chance to win it, he's experienced a great deal of success. It was more in response to the is this article written if not for Ramos.'

Hopke is one of the top 5 recruits I've seen in a VERY long time. When he fills out...which I suspect will be at ~6'4 ish 255, I could see him winning multiple titles. Every time I see him, he just looks better and makes it look easy.

That was...troubling. I got into a whole thing on another thread about how the fear or losing can be as strong as the desire to win, but you have to be able to handle your losses with grace on the mat...like Spencer Lee did. That had to be very frustrating, but...it's a very bad look.

Right, I'm saying Kolodzik's chances IF he'd wrestled in 2021 were probably higher than Glory or Monday heading into this past years tournament. So of the three, he probably would have had the best odds to win a title before the respective tournaments. Not that important, just pointing out they did have a guy who could very well have won a title a couple years ago, but was caught in that baffling decision by the NCAA to give some athletes 5 National Championships and others just 3.