Interviewed_at_Weehawken

There is a lot going on here. Big brother-y type stuff can come into play. Familiarity The fact that Snyder has the fatigue associated with going hard every single day, whereas Cael can pick and choose when he goes hard. Coaches also are known for picking advantageous times to wrestle a fatigued athlete during practice. If only there was a data point of Coach Cael putting it on the line vs. the best in the world! Alas, he retired in 2004...

Wow! Hopefully he was a nice guy! Never went to one wrestling practice at Lock Haven, or he could perhaps be eligible for this list!

I've "only" been following since '83-'84ish. I'd say this is a pretty good list, but night put Neal over Snyder. Snyder has that 3rd NCAA title, but no way can I see prime Snyder beating prime Neal 6 out of 10 times. I can't see it. I also have a soft spot for Haselrig (same d2 conference, same era). There are other worthy additions, but this is pretty good. It would obviously be different it it were "285."

Supposedly folkstyle is what catch (without submissions) has evolved into. I suppose kind of like both 2024 sport Judo and sport BJJ are evolutions of Japanese jujutsu.

That was pro sports at the time...

He also always abstained from whiskey while posting.

and split up over the next 50 years!

I am old enough to remember when Adam Coon was destined to be the next All-Pro Offensive Tackle...

And current Hawks don't run away when par terre defense is being practiced...

Hold on Vak... Plott was HEW, don't you understand? The win is meaningless.

197? Why would he wrestle that heavy? Looks like a 174 at most, under the previous regime.

Yes. Not like they are dominating weak guys and getting overseeded. Something has just been happening at nationals.

They beat some pretty good guys! Scott, not so much, but he was also a returning placer. Championship Results 157 – #12 Ed Scott (NCSU) dec. #32 Sonny Santiago (UNC) – 8-2 165 – Nick Hamilton (UVA) dec. #21 Connor Brady (VT) – 7-2 174 – #2 Mekhi Lewis (VT) dec. #16 Justin McCoy (UVA) – 8-1 184 – #15 Thomas Stewart, Jr. (VT) dec. #10 Dylan Fishback (NCSU) – 8-5 197 – #2 Trent Hidlay (NCSU) over #23 Max Shaw (UNC) – medical forfeit 285 – #14 Owen Trephan (NCSU) dec. #19 Hunter Catka (VT) – 4-2 125 – #10 Jakob Camacho (NCSU) dec. #6 Cooper Flynn (VT) – 4-2 133 – #4 Kai Orine (NCSU) def. #15 Sam Latona (VT) – 4-0 141 – #4 Ryan Jack (NCSU) def. #14 Cole Matthews (Pitt) – 4-1 149 – #5 Jackson Arrington (NCSU) def. #2 Caleb Henson (VT) – 4-1 SV-1

I mean, I was a middling D2 5'10" 150 lber and I could grab rim with both hands. Our 158 could dunk.

Mookie Betts= phenomenal bowler

and I agree.

I think the problem with that is: there are way more high school coaches who do not understand the rules or interpretations. Many high school coaches thought that it was 3 swipes for a 2 point nearfall in recent years!

We will never know. Alirez went on record that Woods was a lot better at Iowa, despite losing to him at Stanford and beating him at Iowa in the finals.

But then NC State has been getting outperformed by Vtech at nationals. So I'm guessing it is not just the unilateral domination over a weak conference that we saw with Mizzou in the MAC.

I don't think anyone that wrestled under Gable could be called a Cael clone, or even a Gable clone. However, between Brands, Zalesky, and Tom Ryan, the Gable proteges have done ok. I would imagine that Taylor would do a lot of the same stuff Cael does. He will likely have a lot more patience than Smith, as he has shown that he is successful working with youth level kids. For M2, he has said he is somewhere in between his high school experience (almost no drilling during the season and just banging heads for 2+ hours) and PSU (lots of drilling and sparring, the drilling is probably very active). I would think that he would be more Cael-like for the college studs he will have.

Real Woods was way better at Iowa than Stanford.

Yes. Absolute dogfight, but why lose and lose that year of eligibility? Get in the lineup a couple of times, then lose your spot, lose a year.

It was pretty bad.

Obviously the two guys I'm about to bring up aren't proven at that level, but Jody Strittmatter talks about the differences between Spencer Lee and Jason Nolf while they were in his club. Lee would be tremendously upset for hours if he gave up a takedown even to a full grown d1 all-American. Nolf would try to experiment with techniques and would give up takedowns to kids 5-10 years younger. Two different approaches that were both successful for these two 3x NCAA champs. I think even the greatest winners can step out of "killer" territory while coaching if it benefits their athletes.

I believe 26. Let's not exaggerate!