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David Taylor - 157 -> 165 -> 163 -> 189 -> 202 Zain Retherford - 149 -> 143 -> 154 -> 143 Nick Lee - 141 -> 143 Braeden Davis - 125 -> 133 Beau Bartlett - 141 -> 149 -> 141 Alex Facundo - 170(HS) -> 165 -> 163 -> 157 Josh Barr - 174 -> 189 -> 197 Carter Starocci - 174 -> 184 Aaron Brooks - 174 -> 184 -> 197 Bernie Truax IV - 197 -> 184 Joe/Matt Lee - 157 -> 165 -> 174 Terrell Bearclaw - 149 -> 157 -> 165 -> 174 -> 165 Tyler Kasak - 141 -> 149 -> 157 Who else recently?

Styles make matches. I don't think Pindrickson and Mullen will be close, but I do think Mullen will be able to match Pindrickson's horse - something Trumble has been exposed at twice this year (Schultzy as well).

Now I think we could all agree that 11 > 10 in that scenario. NCWA actually has a 235lb weight class (currently), IIRC.

@Hammerlock3 LIES!

Without McGonagle and Wolak, I would say 2.5 then. With them is 3.5. I would take under either way. I only have VTech winning 149 in both scenarios.

About 12 of us in this thread... Surely that is enough.

I want in on this action. If one of you is taking heads and the other tails, I am taking the side of the coin.

Typically a bettor would make it 2.5 or 1.5 to prevent potential invalid bets on '2' to be placed. Which would you select? I think a fair line is 3.5 for VTech, even if I think they will only win one match (149lbs).

There are those who welcome this.

This appears to be a win for West Virginia's Strickenberger, yeah? He'll have two (2) more years after this year. https://www.wrestlestat.com/wrestler/74382/strickenberger-jett/profile

The snow dust was a Zahid Valencia thing, not a AJ Ford Focus thing, IIRC.

If you lined up with the high school weights for the top half, you're 157, 165, 175, 190, 215, 285...

Cassar was 232 night of NCAAs, Snyder was 228 night of NCAAs. Neither looked much bigger compared to the year prior when they were at 197lbs. A bit more poofy, but that's just water weight. I am curious what Trumble is at right now. His height would make me think in the 240 area.

James Green said he was walking around at 160 in an interview after he made his 2nd comeback (when he thought the was going 74 KG to start). He couldn't put weight on nor keep it up. It was in a Flo interview (I believe?).

I think that they would have developed a lifestyle that revolved around that weight, rather than one that was in-between two weights. James Green, our GOAT 70 KG guy wrestled 157lbs and had said himself he walked around at around 160lbs in-season. Him going ~154.3lbs wasn't much of a pull, considering. We saw what happened when he gave 74 KG and 65 KG a go and it was not with success. Were we to form our weight classes to fit the next level up, we would perform better long-term.

I believe one of our biggest reasons we struggle at 65 KG internationally, with our best wrestlers, is that the Zains and Johnny D's end up going 149lbs and have to do a lot to get back to 65 KG (143lbs). It can't really be denied that Johnny D was more successful for us when he was making 141lbs than he was when he went 149lbs can it?

Holding his own is fine and dandy. He was still 165lbs this last spring. You don't add >20lbs of function-able muscle in six months. I don't see how he is near the size he needs to be to keep it close to Starocci.

You'd root for an alleged 'r' word over a punk? Doesn't seem ethically correct.

Do we see Rocco at 184 for tOSU now moving forward?

Please do.

I have it 33-4 in favor of OSU, with the win coming via Major at 149lbs.

I agree with everything you have said. I also think that is something specific to the USA. There are countries that push out better lower weights because it suits their team makeup and there are those who push out better upper weights for the same reasoning. If 55 KG was still the weight class (it is for MGR, fwiw), for MFS, then you'd see the major players still making that weight with very little issue (Russia/Iran/Japan, etc.). The USA is bigger than other countries on average, and it really isn't that close.

A beer at Natties is probably $20. Pretzels $10. It isn't going to be a plural thing.

Yeah, I am not sure why he is on that hill. The guidelines are and have been clear for years: Ranking points. AE did not get any points for her title at 72 KG the prior year. Everyone else did for their 68 KG results, as well as ranking events.