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Limiting the number of matches - any negative consequences?
lu_alum replied to AgaveMaria's topic in College Wrestling
For the state tourney in PA, it's a combination of Win Pct and Prestige Points. I believe the process can vary across the various district tournaments. I know the area where I grew up, PA District IV, uses Win Pct, subtracting 8pts for each match short of 10 bouts. i.e., an 8-0 record would be scored as 100-2*8 = 84. When I wrestled in the 1980s, the seeding formula favored guys who wrestled more bouts. We were given 5pts for a win, and had 3pts subtracted for each loss, with prestige points being added afterward. Not sure if any PA districts still use this type of scoring process. -
For those who are interested, here is the site from where I am pulling all of this NCAA information: https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2013/10/23/division-i-wrestling.aspx * the 'Selection Process' file I shared earlier was from 2019. The link for the 2023-24 version is below. Contents are as follows: Championship Information 2023-24 Coach and Administrator Meeting Slides 2023-24 NCAA Division I Wrestling Coaches Ranking Roster 2023-24 Season Information Memo 2023-24 Qualifier Allocation Criteria 2023-24 Team Registration Link 2023-24 Championship Webinar Manuals 2023-24 Pre-championships Manual 2023-24 Host Operations Manual 2022-23 Participant Manual Links and Resources NCAA Wrestling Registered Officials Skin evaluation and participation status form Dual Championship Scoring Model Team Component Presentation Division I Men's Wrestling Selection Process Center Mat National Wrestling Coaches Association Wrestling Rules of the Game
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It appears that the "magic date" has shifted since the Pre-Championships Manual was published in September. According the an update published on 2-Jan, all matches through 25-Feb count toward conference allocations. See page 2 of the linked file: https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/wrestling/d1/men/2023-24D1MWR_QualifierAllocationCriteria.pdf
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More good stuff. This explains seeding... https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/wrestling/d1/men/D1MWR_SelectionsProcess.pdf
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Page 13... https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/wrestling/d1/men/2023-24D1MWR_PreChampsManual.pdf
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Fifteen required for an RPI (must be against D1 competition). Coaches' Rank and Win Pct will earn an allocation for the B1G, but the lack of an RPI will negatively impact someone when applying the formula for seeding criteria. Example being Brooks as a #3 last year.
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I only went back to edit my post because my search resulted in this... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cadet,_Junior,_and_Espoir_World_Champions_in_men's_freestyle_wrestling
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EDIT: I originally quoted Haselrig's wiki page without checking. Not sure if the following is accurate, "Haselrig was the 1985 Junior Greco-Roman World Champion, and the 1986 Junior Freestyle World Champion, while competing for the United States in the heavyweight division."
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It's time: Predict the 2024 125 pound NCAA champ
lu_alum replied to peanut's topic in College Wrestling
I like the result. Can you explain your methodology? EDIT: Looked above and saw your explanation. Net team points generated v the field. Interesting way to look at it. -
It's time: Predict the 2024 125 pound NCAA champ
lu_alum replied to peanut's topic in College Wrestling
Can’t wait to see how 125 shakes out when we conduct the draft for this year’s NCAA fantasy competition. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk -
Top Rated Matches / Best Match You Have Ever Seen
lu_alum replied to blueandgold's topic in College Wrestling
It lasted less than 3min but qualifies as an Instant Classic… Ryan Lang WBF Darrion Caldwell - NCAA QF Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk -
Trenge 4x, if you include his Frosh season, when he had a late-season detached retina. Trenge beat the eventual NCAA 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th place winners during the season. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Top Rated Matches / Best Match You Have Ever Seen
lu_alum replied to blueandgold's topic in College Wrestling
Building on the Lehigh theme: Troy Letters over Tyrone Lewis - NCAA Semi-Final Troy Letters over Tyrone Lewis - NCAA Final Darian Cruz over Thomas Gilman - NCAA Semi- Final Darian Cruz over Ethan Lizak- NCAA Final Rob Rohan over Josh Lambrecht - NCAA Final (already listed) Other Non-Lehigh bouts: Zeke Moisey over Thomas Gilman - NCAA Semi-Final Jason Nolf WBF IMar - dual at Illinois (I believe this was IMar’s first loss) Three-Bout Parlay from DeSanto’s Frosh season: Austin DeSanto over Stevan Micic - CKLV Stevan Micic over Austin DeSanto - NCAA Quarter-Final Scott Delveccio over Austin DeSanto - NCAA R12 * ADS led 6-2 with 0:50 to go & is on bottom * ADS turtles on bottom, giving up three one-point stalling calls * ADS didn’t realize Delveccio was on his way to earning1:01 of RT * ADS Loses in SV Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk -
Top Rated Matches / Best Match You Have Ever Seen
lu_alum replied to blueandgold's topic in College Wrestling
Vincenzo (Frosh) over IMar (JR) NCAA final I have others, but I didn’t see this on the OP. Troy Letters over Tyrone Lewis - NCAA Semi-Final Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk -
It's time: Predict the 2024 125 pound NCAA champ
lu_alum replied to peanut's topic in College Wrestling
Both have already ducked Crookham. Fix in December, Vito this past weekend. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk -
It's time: Predict the 2024 125 pound NCAA champ
lu_alum replied to peanut's topic in College Wrestling
I think the question had more to do with having two Cornell guys on the list. -
It's time: Predict the 2024 125 pound NCAA champ
lu_alum replied to peanut's topic in College Wrestling
Where's Stanich? -
Herceg is the man of the day! Bumps from 165 to 174 and gets the win. Foca helped at 184 by blowing the MAJ. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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125s that are capable of winning a title
lu_alum replied to flyingcement's topic in College Wrestling
Had Enough Wrestling. Indications of burnout and/or no longer caring about collegiate success. -
Agree. I also thought they gave him a pass on the backing out of bounds in SV. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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12:30 point of the video, link provided in the bracket. https://iasportsco.smoothcomp.com/en/event/14853/bracket/871602 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Go to 12:30 in the finals video, which is linked in the bracket. https://iasportsco.smoothcomp.com/en/event/14853/bracket/871602 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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Agree. I just tried to rewatch on B1G+, but cannot fast fwd right now. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk