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Here's a quick list off the top of my head... Jim Martin, NCAA 4-2-1-3. Champ at 126 in 1988. Martin lost two bout during his frosh year in HS (5th at states), then went undefeated for the remainder of his HS career. I was his 100th consecutive win during the streak that closed out his HS career. Scott Collins, 1991 NCAA Champ (149) Mike Cole, 2x AA. 3rd at 142 in 1987 & 1989. Was the #1 seed at NCAAs in 1989, having beat Pat Santoro in the All Star Classic & EWL tourney. Paul Gemberling, Fargo champ, PIAA AAA champ & 4th for Shikellamy. Last person to beat Jack Cuvo in HS loss, during their sophomore seasons. Tony Reed, NCAA R12 @ 134 in 1989. 2x PIAA AAA state champ for Shikellamy.

Found it. Published eleven years ago, based on analysis of the finals matches from the 2012, 2013, and 2014 championships... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NuyMSUFDQe7C1xBM-4hLmgB1r5hWHL16XZPHgu3bsmk/edit?tab=t.0

Missing from this list is Trenge, who placed 2-2-3 for average finish of 2.33. His frosh season got lost in late February 2001 due to detached and torn retinas. During the season, he had beaten the guys who placed 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th at NCAAs.

I don't know about unlimited bricks. I like the international approach. One brick per match. If the challenge is successful, you keep the brick. If you fail a challenge, you lose the brick and your guy loses a match point.

Disagree with this viewpoint. You can't tell me the the top guy isn't stalling when he throws in double boots and flattens out the bottom guy. Bottom guy always gets called, but what is he to do if incapacitated? When the top guy does that & stays parallel, he is most certainly stalling.

Did a little more investigation regarding the challenges of a 15 v 10 person league. Here is a comparison of undrafted seeds at the conclusion of each group. Green shading to highlight pre-tourney R12 seeds. I show down to the 24th seed, as at least 24 guys in each bracket score points.

Lehigh's nucleus is as follows. Three AAs and a R12 return. 125: Sheldon Seymour AA (6th 2025) 133: Ryan Crookham AA (3rd 2024) 141: Luke Stanich AA (5th 2024) 149: Kelvin Griffin NQ (2024) 157: Logan Rozynski NQ (2025) 165: Max Brignola 2x NQ (2022, 2024) 174: ??? 184: Caden Rogers NQ (2025) 197: JT Davis? 285: Nathan Taylor R12 (2024)

We had 22 this time, but this was the first time @VakAttack began promoting it prior to the conference tournaments. The first few years we spun it up after conference tourneys. There's always a little give and take amongst the group, but we increased by seven players this year. I could see ~30 total players being the sweet spot for the annual event. Who knows? I'm just tossing out ideas. In comparing the two events, I prefer the 15-person contest the Premier League offered. It gets significantly more difficult to make draft picks once you've gone through the first 7-8 rounds. Drafting for the Champion League didn't seem to be as much a struggle, as there were still many undrafted AA candidates available at the end. Here's a comparison of the two drafts: Premier League: Champion League:

@Jason Bryant... didn't someone conduct an NCAA championships TD analysis on the old forum? I seem to recall a very detailed analysis on success rates by type of TD attempted.

Tonight’s result was satisfying when reflecting on Steveson’s chronology: * Wins two NCAA titles * Wins Olympic gold in dramatic final 10 seconds. * Walks away from amateur wrestling with big WWE payday - was actually training/promoting his WWE career while still in college. * Fails at WWE * Attempts NFL career and Fails * Crawls back to NCAA wrestling in an attempt to resurrect his earning potential. * NCAA makes him the centerpiece of their finals broadcast. * Fails to deliver in his final NCAA bout. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Very impressive tourney. 9 entries 8 AAs (with Pinto losing 2-1 in R12) 2 champs.

Even less fair to the guys who only got three bites at the apple. Top seeds that wrestled their last eligible year in 2020. 125: Jack Mueller: 4th seed,14-1, finalist 2019 125: Nick Piccininni: 3rd seed, 26-2 133: Seth Gross: 2nd seed, 27-2, 2017 NCAA champ 133: Chaz Tucker: 3rd seed, 31-0, never AAed 141: Luke Pletcher: 1 seed, 26-1 149: Pat Lugo: 1 seed 21-1 149: Matt Kolodzik: 6th seed, 14-0 (he came out of "Ivy Shirt" mid-year, only to have it blow up) 165: Vincenzo Joseph: 2nd seed, 15-1 174: Mark Hall: 1 seed, 23-1 2017 NCAA Champ 174: Jordan Kutler: 3 seed, 21-1 174: Bryce Steiert: 5th seed 27-3 174: Joe Smith: 12 seed, 12-6 184: Taylor Lujan: 1 seed, 28-2, Never AAed 197: Kollin Moore: 1 seed, 27-0 197: Ben Darmstadt, 4 seed, 28-6

After four years, I think this thing is beginning to pick up more interest. Suggest we start putting reminders out prior to conference tourneys next year and see how many folks show interest. As long as we get the entries in early, I see no reason why we couldn't do 2-3 leagues. I've got the mechanics on my end setup to the point it is pretty simple. The only challenge is finding time to conduct the drafts.

Not so sure about that, @MizzouFan01. @nhs67 is already in the JV division.

Evidently my copy-paste update for the Premier League didn't capture correctly. My apologies. Here's the correct final table for the Premier League:

Final Results: Premier League (Varsity Division): Winners: $200 - @Perry $100 - @killdozer $ 50 - @Gage $ 25 - @JvStateChamp1 -------------------------------------------- Champion League (JV Division): Winners: $150 - @Kov88 $ 75 - @jajensen09 $ 50 - @Cornell Kevin $ 25 - @lu_alum Congratulations to all the winners and thanks to all for your participation. See everyone again next year. @steamboat_charlie @flyingcement @Idaho @MPhillips @BruceyB @VakAttack @RockLobster @MizzouFan01 @nhs67 @Truzzcat @charmon55 @scorenomore @MM2018 @crzyctldy

See my post on the effect of the 3-point TD. I believe that has had some impact.

It seems to me that, in bouts with evenly matched competitors, the risk/reward to a 3-pt TD has resulted in fewer takedown attempts. We definitely have seen the increase in bonus point results, but I believe we've also seen more 1-1 matches going to SV as a result. Thoughts?

Nope. He didn’t meet his seed. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Quick analysis heading into the finals. Premier League: @Perry appears to have the championship locked up. The real battle is for 2nd through 4th, with 11.5 points separating @killdozer, @JvStateChamp1, @Gage, and @flyingcement. Champion League: There are two battles in play. At the top of the scoreboard, @Kov88 still leads @jajensen09 by one-half point. They both have a chance for three champs, with a head-to-head battle at 141. @Cornell Kevin and @charmon55 are in a tight race for 3rd & 4th. Cornell Kevin leads, but charmon55 has more finalists. They will go head-to-head at 197. Reminder... payouts are as follows:

Session 5 Results: Premier League (Varsity Division): Champion League (JV Division): @Perry @killdozer @JvStateChamp1 @Gage @flyingcement @steamboat_charlie @Idaho @MPhillips @BruceyB @VakAttack @RockLobster @nhs67 @MizzouFan01 @Truzzcat @Kov88 @jajensen09 @Cornell Kevin @charmon55 @MM2018 @scorenomore @crzyctldy

Sparks has done a great job in utilizing Hidlay’s knowledge. I typically criticize Sparks for not knowing whether his role is play-by-play or color commentator. With Hidlay at his side, Sparks has done a great job of tossing Hidlay questions as set ups. Classic examples being things like, “How would you wrestle through that position.” Together, they’ve managed to give both the layman and experienced fan insight that we rarely (if ever) have received before in an easily understood manner. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Premier League: Looks like @Perry has a firm grip on 1st place, with a 24.5 point lead and four finalists. The real race is for 2nd-4th, as there are six guys within ten points of one another. ( @killdozer @JvStateChamp1 @Gage @steamboat_charlie @flyingcement @Idaho ) Champion League: Only 0.5 points separate @Kov88 and @jajensen09. Kov88 has more AAs, but jajensen09 has more finalists. jajensen09 is assured a champ at 157, as he selected both finalists (Blaze was his WC). Kov88's finalists are: Ayala, Mendez, Mesenbrink; jajensen09's finalists are: Hardy, Lovett, and Taylor/Blaze. 3rd/4th is another race to watch, as there are four guys within 13 points of each other. ( @Cornell Kevin @charmon55 @killdozer and @lu_alum)

Session 4 Results: Premier League (Varsity Division): Champion League (JV Division): @Perry @killdozer @JvStateChamp1 @Gage @steamboat_charlie @flyingcement @Idaho @MPhillips @BruceyB @VakAttack @RockLobster @nhs67 @MizzouFan01 @Truzzcat @Kov88 @jajensen09 @Cornell Kevin @charmon55 @scorenomore @MM2018 @crzyctldy

Pick better. Keep in mind this is coming from the guy who placed as follows in prior years: 2022: Last 2023: Next to Last (0.5 pts better than the bottom) 2024: 12th of 15