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Why didn’t they look into this during Trump 1? Pretty sure all charges except treason are now past the statute of limitations. In other words, there will be no charges. This is just a distraction from Epstein.

Lol if anyone actually thinks Comey is going to prison

Did you know Matt Taibbi lived in Russia for 11 years?

Did you see the NFL player that told a group of students graduating college that?

This woman isn’t someone that no one knows though. She’s the daughter of a current representative. Besides, I don’t think anyone is outraged over this, just pointing out the irony.

Wait you think that city council dude was “more prominent”????

I guess you’re making fun of your MAGA brethren since you said “life’s too short to be upset by product advertisements.”

This thread was almost as big and wasn’t even started until like 6 weeks after the main controversy (I may be wrong but IIRC this was right around when this board was created).

Except she didn’t do anything that would indicate she was mad.

No I’m not, you’re conflating what someone said live on air with what they tweeted.

They didn’t tweet “possibly white” about the NYC shooter

So you do know who he is then?

So what’s your opinion on artificial sweeteners vs high fructose corn syrup?

What does the post you quoted have to do with this administration? I did provide an example earlier in this very thread of something I thought was good from the administration though.

Just because something is artificial doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad. Just like just because something is natural doesn’t mean it’s good. And again, I’m not necessarily saying they’re “good.” I’m just not convinced they’re especially bad. Your last paragraph IMO shows the flaws in your thinking here. I of course don’t care if someone chooses not to eat artificial sweeteners, and obviously one can be very healthy without them. My point is that I don’t really think they’re as bad as some people claim, and I think it’s reckless particularly when people claim (as I believe you did earlier in this thread) that they are even worse than other added sugars, when there have been numerous studies showing artificial sweeteners are superior to other added sugars in multiple important health metrics.

This is literally the only excerpt from the Mayo Clinic article that you posted that I didn’t. Fruits and vegetables are better than products with artificial sweeteners? No way! The argument for artificial sweeteners is that they can be a good replacement for sugar. Notably, as I called out when linking the articles, most of the research that “associates” artificial sweeteners with negative outcomes, doesn’t compare it to sugar. When it is compared to sugar, it has actually often been found in multiple studies to provide positive outcomes.

I use DuckDuckGo which doesn’t save your searches

So looks like your results were pretty much the same as mine? I wasn’t cherry picking, I was summarizing. I included some of the comments claiming they’re bad. In fact, some of the “other excerpts” from the Mayo Clinic article you posted and claimed I cherry-picked, I had already posted… So, it looks like you’re the one trying to confirm your bias. You keep saying it’s “common sense” that they’re bad, I’m literally saying I’m undecided and am willing to change my mind, and have asked you multiple times to provide something to back up your opinion and you have not. These articles certainly do not, they call out some of the reasons why people think they’re bad, but also call out reasons people think they’re not bad.

I’m confused, is he saying that the Cleveland Clinic, Health.com, and the Mayo Clinic are somehow biased to my prior opinions?

The first 3 were the top 3, the last one was #6. I do not use Google as my preferred search engine btw edit: and yes I would say those links are pretty consistent with the science being unsettled

Top responses I get for a simple search for “are artificial sweeteners unhealthy” 1. https://health.clevelandclinic.org/whats-worse-sugar-or-artificial-sweetener This points out some of the theories people say they’re bad, but doesn’t really have data to back it up. And at least admits it doesn’t, as people often point to studies saying things like “artificial sweeteners are ASSOCIATED with some negative health outcomes,” but good chance that’s more likely because people that eat/drink artificial sweeteners probably eat a lot of other crap too. A doctor quoted in this article also makes the claim that artificial sweeteners lead to overeating. This has not been proven, and in fact numerous studies show consuming artificial sweeteners IN PLACE OF sugar actually results in weight loss (some studies even show weight loss compared to water). 2. https://www.health.com/best-and-worst-artificial-sweeteners-7974926 quote: Artificial sweeteners can be a healthy way to add sweetness without sugar, but not all sugar substitutes are created equal. Some artificial sweeteners offer sweetness without introducing unwanted or potentially unhealthy chemicals or additives into your diet. Still, some studies link artificial sweeteners to an increased risk of health conditions like diabetes and heart disease.12 However, research is mixed, and some evidence points to the potential benefits, even for people at risk of these conditions. For example, people with diabetes might use artificial sweeteners to help manage their blood sugars. Others might use them for dental health or weight loss. Still, some nonnutritive substitutes are better than others.3 I don’t know if I’d go as far as saying they’re “healthy,” but I feel pretty confident in saying the jury is still out on them being “unhealthy.” 3. https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/artificial-sweeteners/art-20046936 In general, artificial sweeteners are safe in limited amounts for healthy people, including pregnant people. But limit or cut out sugar substitutes: If you're living with a rare genetic disease called phenylketonuria. Foods and drinks with aspartame can lead to serious health problems. If you have a bowel disease. Using sugar substitutes might make your symptoms flare up Health benefits linked to sugar substitutes If you replace added sugar with sugar substitutes, it could lower your risk of getting tooth decay and cavities. Sugar substitutes also don't raise the level of sugar in the blood. For adults and children with overweight or obesity, sugar substitutes also might help manage weight in the short term. That's because sugar substitutes often are low in calories or have no calories. But it's not clear whether sugar substitutes can help people manage their weight over the long term. Over time, it's most important to eat a healthy diet and get exercise. Health concerns linked to sugar substitutes Health agencies have clarified that sugar substitutes do not cause serious health problems. Sugar substitutes also are not linked to a higher risk of cancer in people. Studies dating back to the 1970s linked the artificial sweetener saccharin to bladder cancer in rats. Since then, research has shown that those findings don't apply to people. Some research on long-term, daily use of artificial sweeteners suggests a link to a higher risk of stroke, heart disease and death overall. But other things people do, or healthy habits that people don't do, may be the cause of the higher risk. Other research is looking at long-term use of sugar substitutes and the gut. Many focus on how the gut and brain communicate. Researchers are checking to see if sugar substitutes affect cravings for sweets, the way people feel hunger and how the body manages blood sugar. Sugar alcohols, stevia and luo han guo can cause bloating, gas and diarrhea. The amount of sugar alcohol that causes these symptoms varies from person to person. In general, it is safest to take in small amounts of sugar substitutes. And it's best to use sugar substitutes for a short time, or just every once in a while. So try to cut back if you use them a few times a day. The bottom line Artificial sweeteners can be a short-term way to help some people lessen their use of sugar and lose or manage weight. In general, sugar substitutes are safe for healthy adults. But be aware of how sugar substitutes affect your food and drink choices. These ingredients may get your tastebuds used to sweetness. And that can make drinking enough water a challenge. Mayo Clinic is pretty reputable, no? They don’t seem to agree that “artificial sweeteners are bad, it’s common sense.” This was also one of the top results and I thought provided a good summary of what my current understanding is, with references: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/artificial-sweeteners-good-or-bad#bottom-line Overall, the use of artificial sweeteners poses few risks and may even have benefits for weight loss, blood sugar management, and dental health. These sweeteners are especially beneficial if you use them to decrease the amount of added sugar in your diet. That said, the likelihood of negative effects can vary by individual and depend on the type of artificial sweetener consumed. Some people may feel bad or experience negative effects after consuming artificial sweeteners, even though they are safe and well tolerated by most people.

By “excluded,” I meant “banned.” I’m still not sure if the science on artificial sweeteners is really settled. Again, if you have a study or two you’d like to share I’d love to read them.

For example, going back to the Diet Soda debate, it looks like Texas is including artificial sweeteners in its items that will be excluded.

Good idea, but who is deciding what’s “healthy”?