Jason Bryant

And as we know, revenue and profit are different things, but that's something that's impossible to explain to the tribalistic psycho fans who blather on about how their sport (which they almost certainly didn't play at the school they cheer for to begin with) is so much more important because "it makes all the money for the other sports" when that really isn't true most places.

Someone else did.

If I had to guess, he was probably just told that was the number. I've found most "records" prior to the internet are just spread via word of mouth. Someone said a number, it fit the narrative of dropped programs since 1972, the year most often used due to the passage of Title IX. Some of the lists I've pruned pointed to schools that "dropped" the sport prior to that. So from a speaking point narrative, saying we've lost x-amount of schools since the passage of Title IX implies that's the direct result, when there's more that was in play. Some schools started teams and then stopped after 2 years or the schools closed, or dropped athletics. The NJCAA doesn't really have great records, but thankfully, AWN really did a great job at at least publishing anything and everything they were sent. So that's the most likely way for me to come up with it. One of my long-range products is going page-by-page to log all this stuff. I'm building historical tournament placement archives, team scores, etc. and as a by product, I can hae some semblence of a better idea of what we had, when we had it. My problem isn't the junior colleges, rather its the dual affiliates - schools that competed in both the NCAA and NAIA. The NAIA doesn't have participation stats going back that far.

They weren’t all in existence at the same time. We never had that many programs simultaneously- I’ve been working to comb through actual archives to count a documented number of teams. The NCAA didn’t count participation stats until 1982. We have lost a bunch, but there’s been an ebb and flow. It’s been a repeated unverifiable myth over the years. I don’t have that file that I’m working on at my disposal here in Istanbul , but the list of dropped teams I was first provided with (when I worked for the NWCA full-time) also had multiple schools counted multiple times due to name changes. I can’t (yet) tell you what the actual high water mark is, but I can tell you with extreme confidence it’s not that high.

No there were not.

Social Distortion in two weeks (one of my bucket list bands) Greg Warren the week after that. Kidz Bop with my girls come the MN State Fair this year. Saw Nate Bargatze last summer.

As moronic as we as a fanbase can be with some of the things we say on social, nothing holds a candle to wwe stans. It’s just the same thing that’s been repeated over and over. I’ve seen legit people try to explain the laws etc in Mn to them and it ends up how you might expect. They’re the same type of people who don’t believe anything after the first google search result. The smart fans in that demographic don’t engage.

Alternate isn’t truly an official designation in wrestling- where it is in sports like gymnastics. It’s more a semantical thing but if you are second at the Trials and end up going as a training partner, you might be next up, but it doesn’t make you an Olympic alternate or THE Olympic alternate as a designated name.

Ain't going to happen. Women's college wrestling is almost a quarter-century old and it's been huge for the growth of our international women's development.

I mean, the two college women’s championships now (NCWWC and NAIA) go on during the current postseason. I personally think they need to be away from the men’s postseason to maximin exposure. Not that many outlets to actively cover the men’s side as it is, which puts the women’s divisions at a disadvantage even further down the pecking order.

Evans is in my count three times - while there's one collective Team USA, there's the Greco-Roman team and the freestyle team in that era. He wasn't in three quads, though.

Maroulis followed - so they didn’t add her to what I’d announced with Snyder. I’ll go back and check my records for Evans. The 80 guys didn’t participate as we know, but they tend to be the ones who get that “pass” on being an Olympian but never actually competing. There’s instances where there was a team but didn’t compete (like Greco in 1948).

11 men, 1 woman - that's 12. When Snyder won the spot at Trials, he did it before Helen, so I announced he was the 11th. Helen became the first woman, so I said she was the first woman, which is more significant than being the 12th American. Not sure if they're referencing my announcement or Cody Goodwin's story where he wrote about it for USAW. Anyway, here's the answer Bruce Baumgartner (4) Mark Fuller (4) Ben Peterson Bill Kerslake Dan Chandler Dennis Hall Dick Wilson Kenny Monday Tommy Evans Wayne Baughman Kyle Snyder Helen Maroulis

Multiple times ... granted, I'm also at international events on-side 2-3x a year and announcing "challenge on Mat B" so I've seen it easily more than a dozen times in recent years. I would be hard-pressed to cite a specific example though.

International rule changes haven't changed much in over a decade. College/HS rules change more frequently.

Swimming might be cheap to add when you already have a facility, but it’s not a cheap sport to maintain. Numerous ADs have told me they’d rather have a low-maintenance small roster team than a comparable roster size with a pool to manage. As we also know with D1 accounting practices, the math doesn’t always work like it should.

Fargo in like 2010. Raised platform in the round robins, before we went to line bracketing. Colin Shober was on the raised mat wrestling and he got hit with a cutback and when the kid grabbed his ankle, his shin just straight up popped. Audible pop. Bill Zadick and I were watching the match side by side and we both nearly threw up at that moment. Thankfully it wasn't a compound fracture, but one of the ones I just shiver when I think about.

Normal people understand this. Rational people understand this. Wrestling people incessantly complaining about the WWE is a one-way complaint … and a tired one. Calling our guys sell outs and such is more a misnomer and misdirected hostility than anything else - as are the positions people who hate the WWE take when trying to interpret their creative.

One of these things is not like the other. The bitching between pro wrestling and our wrestling is a one-way complaint. We’ve wasted countless hours on that and no one is listening. It’s a way to make a living using your athletic abilities … complaining about pro wrestling is so 1983.

You just ooze positivity with all your posts …

The school’s athletics department is going from D2 to D1. Yes, they have been offering scholarships.

Boo fricking hoo.

But how do you score team points in T&F? That sport is fractured chasing times and you have a team that could be in 3 spots on a given weekend.

Pretty sure it's for outside of the U.S. I'll check on that, though.