Jason Bryant

Those teams are all grandfathered in. You can’t just “do it” these days. The handful of D3s who play D1 hockey (there is no D2 hockey). There’s the lax schools and of course, F&M in wrestling.

That was still the college division. 73-74 was the first year of the three division format. I wasn’t there yet …

Montclair State was the only D3 in NJ with multiple placewinners. Happened in 1975, 1978, 1985 and they had two AA's in both 1988 and 1989. TCNJ (Trenton State) had one in 1981. D2 and D3 champs/finalists qualifying for D1's was only a thing from 1974-1991.

I don't mean for this to sound snarky, but a lot of these folks chose Division II and Division III for a reason. They like wrestling, they enjoy competing, but while there are serious wrestlers at that level, not everyone's going to want to go out there and compare themselves to a level of wrestling they chose not to compete in. How do we know these guys aren't proving themselves just trying to break the starting lineup at these smaller places? I was announcing the St. Cloud State intrasquad last week and I interviewed the winners afterwards and asked a few what their season goals were - the ones I asked that question to all said their first goal was to just start. Division II and Division III have different rules in terms of access to their coaching staffs, offseason training, etc. Also, since those matches don't count for D1 athletes in the qualification system we currently have (they do count for overall and career records), a number of D1 coaches don't want too many non-D1 athletes in a field.

Acceptable crossover.

Definitely a JTTS era from the old board.

Hanna taking the Olympic year to compete for the Bahamas, allegedly.

Possibly in the pre-internet era like old Midlands or Wilkes.

Had two opportunities to practice at intrasquads at Minnesota and St. Cloud State … despite the prompting to practice, no one yelled it.

May this day be pinfelled to death by the Dia de los Muertos

UWW isn’t running it, so they’re reliant on the hosts actually running this thing. My buddy is on the PA down there and the reports I’m getting … are … interesting to say the least.

Never trust pro wrestling sites. None of them actually know what’s going on. One “reported” he was out and two days later, Gable is on TV. Trust that Obsessed Wrestler page even less …

Will Rowe at Oklahoma did

Or the fact football at the D1 level is a head count sport, they aren’t doing partials at K-State when even the best D1 wrestlers are fortunate to get a full boat to attend school and compete. Backup punters on scholarship have better deals than wrestlers in most cases.

Maybe, just maybe, he likes football more … the nerve!

Yes, because the guide on your smart TV has replaced the "channel surfing" click-click-click drive-by viewer. We've got viewing options as wrestling fans. We know where to go. Putting a big dual on a channel that isn't randomly there for niche sports fans helps get the sport added exposure. A lot more cable and streaming systems carry ESPN than they do ESPNU or ESPNews. Duals on ESPN and ESPN will have the opportunity for more eyeballs. Is it a huge deal? Maybe not, but it's definitely big.

Yeah, a bunch of folks were digging to make sure this was actually confirmed. ESPN research dug through the archives as well to confirm. My only thought that could have been an option was back in the early 1980s when ESPN launched, they put a lot of weird stuff on the air - obscure leagues and smaller college sports - so my thought was an IPTV dual could have shown up on the network back in the day tape-delayed. Apparently not. We just saw Big Ten women's volleyball on broadcast television for the first time last night. It's good for non-football and basketball sports.

What are your stipulations? NCAA finish? All Americans? Champs? Dual wins? Dual Rank. Conference titles? Academic finish tied to placement? APR? Lots of ways to quantify an answer - just wondering where I should start with the data mining.

This is what I was hoping someone would say. Pilot it somewhere, but back to my initial statement, I've heard this bantered about for almost 30 years and at best, it's only been a message board topic. Why hasn't this been piloted? That's the next question.

Firstly, rules don't get changed without data to back them up. As far as the discussion point - If we have so many people ardently supporting something that actually hasn't been done, I'm asking HOW does that happen? Where's the support for something that isn't in use. I was asking to see if we had use cases, since I don't see every tournament, but I've been to enough over the last 28 years and not once time have I seen it. So that's why I'm asking. How can something that hasn't been used actually fix something? This Hibojibbo can keep bugs from hitting your windshield, let's put it on all cars. Ok, where can I see a Hibojibbo?

I’m a lot harder to move.

Gonna disagree there. As much guff as Ban gives everyone and vice versa, I’d actually have a beer and talk wrestling with him compared to the other entity.

Noel counts for NY. It’s based on where the wrestlers list their hometown. Mark Hall listed Apple Valley, Minnesota, so he counted for them. It’s up to where the athlete (at least in recent years) go. Ed Ewolt started my list in the 1970s and I think he used whatever was listed in the program. Bartlett counts for whatever he lists on his Penn State bio. I do have HS stats dating back about a decade and am working on back filling that data.

Cael (4), Holker (1), Matt Brown (1) are it in D1. Seth Wright in D2, Matt Carter in NAIA and 10 guys in the NJCAA.