Pretty sure anything after Jay passed, the format differs. I believe Jay did most of it in Access. I know I've been throwing AI at the Big Ten PDFs for about a week and they just won't read the data correctly. When I convert them to read it, they'll not pull the right lines because the way the PDFs are generated are from an era where the PDF wasn't the standard format and wasn't really a native document type. Now, you can't seem to go a day without opening multiple PDFs.