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What if........he hadn't destroyed his knees trying to win titles for Brands. Russians and Iranians won't hesitate to attack those hard, and if he can't make it through college without all of those injuries there's no way he'll make it long in international.

And the video is on page 2

Joe Gilbert pinning Tom Brands

"I just want some ice cream man. I just want some ice cream." -Kyven Gadsen

Not sure what Smith's rules are, but O'Toole's 21.

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Nobody is injured, they're all ducking. Source: ionel

I've seen guys who could just about break your ribs with a tight waist, that doesn't make it illegal. Bow and arrow is a tough move, but the refs can stop it any time they believe it becomes dangerous.

I'd hate to think that Mizzou is holding guys out to protect seeds, so hopefully that's not the case at 165 and 197. I don't think it is the case at 149, since Mauller is not that highly ranked right now (#9).

Totally agree, and I think he gets his @ss beat in UFC too.

This seems to be his m.o. He'll have a few matches that are closer than they should be, and give up some points and takedowns here and there. But when the post-season rolls around he takes the headgear out of the briefcase.

Sam Henson

I would too, just not a stud. Last year he was hesitant to show his offense, but he has good defense. So he ended up in a lot of close matches, but couldn't finish in OT. He looks more aggressive so far this season, but he hasn't wrestled any of the top guys yet. He did decision North from Maryland who was unranked at the time, but has since moved up to 17th, but that's his best win so far this season.

A stud like Jacques? He's started the season strong, but I'd hardly call him a stud.

I don't necessarily agree with this. If they wrestled 10x I'd give the majority to Yianni, Gomez just happened to have Yianni's number in the one match they wrestled so far. Gomez should have lost in his all-star match if Sasso hadn't died in the third period, and he got whooped by an un-ranked freshman earlier this month. One win doesn't automatically make him the better p4p wrestler.

I get the history of Monday v. Carr, but it should have been Carr vs O'Toole last night. Keegan's match v. Hamiti was not as close as the 7-1 final. I think when he got in on a deep shot and O'Toole turned it into his takedown in about 2 seconds, Hamiti realized he was in over his head. I though Elam was in full control besides the final minute of regulation. He got careless on top and gave up the reversal, then he took an ill-advised shot late that turned into Warner's two. You like to see the aggressiveness, but if he wrestled smarter then it should have finished 5-2. Flo has Elam at #2 this morning. As far as I know he hasn't wrestled Dean in college, but he has beaten him in freestyle.

I know this is said tongue-in-cheek, but Mizzou's not in the MAC anymore. And their non-conf. schedule with ASU, VT, and the Southern Scuffle is not too shabby.

Lowney had 3 junior national titles in freestyle also, which played a big role in his college success (a 3rd and 5th place finish at nationals).

Because it works. I've run a lot of tournaments on Track, and if you set everything up right then it runs like clockwork.

Not to re-kindle old arguments, but Waters vs Gilman at National Duals had a bit of everything. Good wrestling, Gilman illegally slamming Waters and Waters getting penalized for it (!!!!), Gilman trying to attack Waters legs well after the whistle, Waters intentionally running into the Hawkeye blocking his path after he won the match. Maybe not an instant classic, but definitely a memorable match.

Nice, but it's just verbal so far. With all of the DI transfers anymore, I'll feel more comfortable when he signs.

Christ, being a good wrestler doesn't automatically make you a good coach. And calling him the heir apparent while he's still in college is just stupid.

I like to picture the last moments of TheMat with DF diggin through the Stabbin' Wagon looking for his stolen state medal, while Jimmy Cinnabon bets him $50 that he ain't gonna find it.