VakAttack

Oh man. That sucks.

Maybe it just feels worse because it's my team and i'm self involved?

Damn, Jamison too. If Iowa's offseason wasn't such a trainwreck, Minny would be having the worst one.

Gabe Arnold at least appears to remain all in on the program.

It came as a surprise to Spencer, apparently. But according to insider types on HR, it was not a surprise to the staff.

Meh. I can see the logic of believing Iowa was a certain kind of place, then seeing them recruiting people you view as trashcan humans and that altering your perception. "If they'd recruit them, maybe they're not the program I thought they were."

I'm not totally opposed to what you're saying re: the team prospects, but I think you're wrong on this point. Not wanting to be associated with the older two Ferrari brothers doesn't seem to me to be a sign of weakness...it's a point in your favor. I mean....sure. But Chittum isn't Jordan, he doesn't have that kind of juice at this point. I don't think Jordan would have been able to keep Isiah off the 1988 Olympic Team if pros had been allowed to play. The only recent guys on Iowa that MIGHT have had that juice are Spencer and Metcalf, and even then...probably not. College sports are still different.

He's not dumb. He's trolling Iowa. It's a pretty brilliant troll. Having read his posts for years, my interpretation, as you may have seen me write is that he's PennSyate fan posing as an Iowa fan who is posing as a Penn State fan. Layered.

Ok, so if we call him the Republican frontrunner/sexual abuser, is that better?

Iowa has the problem of high achieving compared to every other program (other than PSU, obviously) but underperforming their standards. What Iowa is doing right now is good enough if "trophy team" is enough, but not good enough if team championships is the goal.

Biggest laugh of the day so far, lol.

Good luck on that last one. This obviously isn't good, but there's a lot of wildly overblown doomsaying going on as well. The program is worse than they were yesterday, but they're still fine and a probable trophy team. They are not, however, at an acceptable level to me as a fan where they look primed to challenge for team titles, and that's a problem.

Well...Minnow and Chittum himself. https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/iowa-state/wrestling/2023/05/09/cody-chittum-junior-national-champ-flips-from-iowa-to-iowa-state-wrestling-ncaa-wrestling-recruiting/70199851007/

And now we've reached the ridiculous portion of this discussion, lol.

For anybody doubting the "Ferrari Effect." https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/iowa-state/wrestling/2023/05/09/cody-chittum-junior-national-champ-flips-from-iowa-to-iowa-state-wrestling-ncaa-wrestling-recruiting/70199851007/

If Iowa could get Burroughs to come into the program, that would be the biggest possible win.

I'm looking forward to the flip by some from "Chittum is overrated, he's not that great" to "what a recruit!" that we're going to be seeing all across the wrestling internet. Personally, I thought he was going to be good at Minnesota, was ecstatic that he came to Iowa, and now am bummed that I think he'll be great for Iowa State.

If it wasn't clear from my post, I agree.

I'm not necessarily in on putting them to pasture, but there needs to be a coaching staff shakeup IMO. More diversity of thought/style on the staff, guys with different wrestling styles to expose the athletes to different ideas on how to wrestle. I've thought that for a long time that Iowa is too intent on the "Iowa Man" being the program. They're always going to be buoyed somewhat by the program name, but consistently threatening for team titles seems far away at the moment. If they're not willing to consider any changes, though....

Well, apparently about 83% of HR. EDIT: There were people on here claiming that I was bullshitting about not wanting Anthony or AJ. Not that I could have specifically seen it being THIS bad THIS fast, but the upside was extremely, extremely limited.

Ahh, the last Jimmy thread on chittum at least, since he can't use him to troll Iowa. Who will he target now? Best guess? Ayala.

I take no joy in being extremely correct on the Ferrari stuff.

Reporting is a very strong word for.whats happening right now.

Yeah, that's why gun violence happens at the same rate worldwide.