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Brooks crisp as hell from neutral. Keckeisen's only shot is for Brooks to gas, which doesn't seem likely. Plus, Brooks might be in front by too much to care.

Iowa guys been on the road for a week. They looked flat as hell.

Bummer results for Iowa, but both matches are winnable. They were always loseable, which both Iowa guys did today. Elam and Kerk just outwrestled them today.

No. Why?

I'm not depressed at all. I have no idea if he's that guy. I can confirm that Iowa does not have their next stud at either 157 or 174, though. For example, Kennedy looks fantastic, but I'm not going to pretend I think he's a future multitime champ or something. We need to see him against elite level guys.

LOL. Yes, thank you, we definitely do judge a wrestler based on their results, thanks for keeping up. Yianni just lost to Gomez, but I'm pretty sure most would pick Yianni to win if they wrestled tomorrow. And Henson would be an underdog to Sasso, despite the win.

"THE ONLY WAY I CAN BE WRONG IS 5 YEARS FROM NOW!" is a fun way to debate.

The point is your spiraling wildly off of results against nobody whose a relevant NCAA All-American wrestler. The best wrestler he's faced is Johnny Lovett, who he beat 5-3. Lovett's best result is, I believe, 2-2 at the NCAA tournament. So when you view Van Ness' results (and your statement was made well before even the Lovett match) of beating the crap out of non-D1 All American types and proclaim things like "I'll take him over anybody buy Yianni". Then, when it's followed by decreasing levels of dominance once the competition steps up slightly (because, again, Lovett is a tough solid wrestler, but hasn't come close to AAing as of yet, and Van Ness just beat him 5-3) and you stick with it with lines like "I can see him losing to a Gomez or Sasso in their first meeting" as if the only way those two very high level wrestlers can beat Van Ness is because it's his first time getting a look at him, it's objectively hilarious. Nobody is saying Van Ness can't AA or improve, even dramatically, by the end of the season. Not being a national title threat at the beginning of your freshman year is not an insult. The Van Ness we've seen so far is a solid underdog against Yianni, Gomez, Sasso, etc.

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Where have I made any claims about Murin's greatness? You're the one who said Van Ness would beat anybody but Yianni. If you don't actually believe that, that's fine. BTW, 5-3 over Johnny Lovett. Love my Florida wrestlers, but.... not exactly evidence of forthcoming domnlinance.

Well, you picked him over anybody but Yianni, so how many points are you giving me?

Sorry, I should have just said decision. A fair correction! He's likely to place 7th.

Van Ness wins a close decision over Graham Rooks, now unlikely to place. Tough break!

Hard jinx here. Carl's position stays safe.

Secret sauce? Most places charge you extra for that kind of action.

I didn't see it, but if it was Warner, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess it was a response, not an initiation. Warner has never been that guy. Of the guys currently on the roster, the only guys I think are likely trash talkers on the team are Kennedy and maybe Murin. Also, the cadets (if that is who he was talking to) were acting just like regular college kids on the side of the mat. No special treatment needed, nor would I imagine they want it. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

It's not the best competition so far this season, but I appreciate that Warner as a senior isn't just sitting around like he has throughout his career. Hopefully a sign that he's fully bought in for his senior year. Again, I understand it's not the highest level of competition so far, but if you've watched Warner at Iowa extensively, you're seeing a difference. Hopeful it transfers to the better opponents! Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

I'll take Terukina +3 McGee -1.5 Andonian pick'em Sasso +2 Keckeisen +2 Hamiti +3 Monday +3 Warner - 1.5 Kerk +1.5 Lewis +1

I'm good, but I'm not that good. John Adams may have been able to represent the British troops, but I'm just a man.

Is this available on the Pac12 network, or just online?

Arty's high school coach and I go way back, he's pretty stoke about the move.

Willie has this thing on Twitter w/ Mason (I have no idea how serious it is, I'm not sure of their relationship) about how Willie, if he was in charge of starting a program, could have it top 20 w/in 5 years.

Thought this thread was definitely Wille dragging his feud w/ Mason Beckman onto the forum.

Maybe the real tbar is the friends we made along the way.

Askren said on FRL last week he was going to a freestyle event, I believe.