jsn4388 Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) It's been awhile, but I just want to bring up this topic again because it was a thing to talk about several years ago. So after 3 years of witnessing their crafts, who would win this matchup if they wrestle today (past injuries aside)? They are not on the same weight, but in freestyle they might meet. I would love to see this in either folks or free. What do you all think? Edited March 17 by jsn4388
pawrestler Posted March 17 Posted March 17 (edited) I think freestyle could be potentially interesting with Shapiro's creativity but MM kills him in folk with his pace Edited March 17 by pawrestler
scorenomore Posted March 18 Posted March 18 I don't see how this is close today. Could change in the future, but MM is quite a bit further in his career right now. Also, I believe MS mentioned he is not a big 157 and I feel that MM is a full size 165 so I think there might be a straight up horsepower advantage for MM. 4
Le duke Posted March 18 Posted March 18 MM has teched better wrestlers than Shapiro who were full sized 74kg/165lb guys.Free or folk, doesn’t matter. Shapiro gets smashed.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 1
BruceyB Posted March 18 Posted March 18 It's NCAAs week and we're doing fantasy hypotheticals? Save this for the summer! 1
jsn4388 Posted March 18 Author Posted March 18 7 hours ago, BruceyB said: It's NCAAs week and we're doing fantasy hypotheticals? Save this for the summer! We can walk and chew gum at the same time, can't we? 1
LemonPie Posted March 18 Posted March 18 (edited) Finding results on flo seems more difficult to me compared to days past on track. I can’t remember who 10-0’d Shapiro in freestyle. And I can’t remember if 2025 or 2024. He’s not the same freestyle prospect he once was. Edited March 18 by LemonPie
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted March 18 Posted March 18 How would Shapiro do against Caliendo? Then consider that Mesenbrink is like 8-0 vs Caliendo with 6 tech or major decision wins over Caliendo.
MPhillips Posted March 18 Posted March 18 8 hours ago, BruceyB said: It's NCAAs week and we're doing fantasy hypotheticals? Save this for the summer! Many of these folks wont be around by the summer... 3 .
Gantry Posted March 18 Posted March 18 1 hour ago, LemonPie said: Finding results on flo seems more difficult to me compared to days past on track. I can’t remember who 10-0’d Shapiro in freestyle. And I can’t remember if 2025 or 2024. He’s not the same freestyle prospect he once was. I wanna say it was Lockett at Olympic trials while still in high school?
JimmyCinnabon Posted March 18 Posted March 18 1 hour ago, MPhillips said: Many of these folks wont be around by the summer... Putting down old wrestlers is always hard, but necessary. 1
MPhillips Posted March 18 Posted March 18 41 minutes ago, JimmyCinnabon said: Putting down old wrestlers is always hard, but necessary. .
Hammerlock3 Posted March 18 Posted March 18 17 hours ago, Le duke said: MM has teched better wrestlers than Shapiro who were full sized 74kg/165lb guys. Free or folk, doesn’t matter. Shapiro gets smashed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk We don't need the shill reaction. Everyone knows whose favored. The way Shapiro throws himself at situations in ways that seem impossible to predict might give Mesenbrink fits. The real problem is Mesenbrink is bulletproof in terms of conditioning, demeanor....he can be beaten but you can't hurt him. This isn't the case with Shapiro, and I'm not talking about injuries, Mesenbrink is much tougher. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
Le duke Posted March 18 Posted March 18 10 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: We don't need the shill reaction. Everyone knows whose favored. The way Shapiro throws himself at situations in ways that seem impossible to predict might give Mesenbrink fits. The real problem is Mesenbrink is bulletproof in terms of conditioning, demeanor....he can be beaten but you can't hurt him. This isn't the case with Shapiro, and I'm not talking about injuries, Mesenbrink is much tougher. Shapiro wouldn't be given the chance. MM dives for a leg right off the whistle, all the time. Shapiro wouldn't be attacking, he'd be forced to defend, and MM is good enough on top now that Shapiro would be eating mat for 1:30-2min in the first period alone.
ScottishSteel Posted March 19 Posted March 19 21 hours ago, jsn4388 said: We can walk and chew gum at the same time, can't we? My dad coached against Jason Nolf when he was in middle school/early high school - said he would chew gum during his matches Irrationally proud former WPIAL wrestler No Scotland, No Party . . . Go Beavs
H82Lose Posted March 19 Posted March 19 2 hours ago, ScottishSteel said: My dad coached against Jason Nolf when he was in middle school/early high school - said he would chew gum during his matches tell us more
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted March 19 Posted March 19 2 hours ago, ScottishSteel said: My dad coached against Jason Nolf when he was in middle school/early high school - said he would chew gum during his matches T-1
ScottishSteel Posted March 19 Posted March 19 2 hours ago, H82Lose said: tell us more Said he would just run out there chomping away at it and then when he toe'd the line he would just tuck it to the side in his mouth and then bring it back with his tongue when he was pinning people and just chew until the ref slapped the mat and while he was getting his hand raised. He stopped as he got older. My dad was an assistant coach at a different school in the same section as Kittaning 1 Irrationally proud former WPIAL wrestler No Scotland, No Party . . . Go Beavs
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