Reasonable Discussion: Systemic Oppression

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

22 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

 

. There is no longer any reason to continue the discussion

[wrestlingguy]

20 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

 

Tell me you are conservative without telling me you are conservative. Well I already told you I am a proud conservative so . . . 

Yes and you're quite narrowminded. I call it a realistic view based on coming to my own conclusion and not based on some BS I learned in liberal arts school.

Tattoos? Do you feel the same way? Don't contradict yourself now. Yes, I feel the same way about tattoos and septum piercings. The only people that used to have tattoos were prisoners. Some are artistic but the majority represent a horrible lapse in judgement and are eyesores. The tattoo removal businesses are booming because regret is real and profitable.

Zealous protection of the standards and norms of the group is a hallmark of a conservative. Refusing entry based on superficial features, again, hallmark. Using your authority to enforce a narrowly tailored opinion of what is right and wrong or in your words 'serious' or not is a form of bigotry or at least bias. Not to mention you may hold in your hand someone's financial future by either being hired or not. You seem like the perfect person to hold the position you do. I hope you can feel the sarcasm. exactly. It's called a norm for a reason. People with unnaturally colored hair have a pattern and it's called bad judgement, mentally unstable(ie: more sick days because they can't cope with reality), and they are defiant. Nobody in corporate America wants someone that looks like a troll representing a professional company. 

You are an example of systematic oppression. You, like many others that have found themselves within a system of oppression, have rationalized it and absolved yourself of any responsibility. You don't see your actions as harmful despite confessing that you are purposefully bias to a specific group of people. All I hear are excuses for people that want things handed to them. Your imaginary system is exactly that. Your underwater basket weaving degree isn't marketable but thank God for your sociology class so you can debate utter nonsense on the internet.

Thank you for making this particular comment in this thread. There is no longer any reason to continue the discussion as this is overwhelming evidence that it does exist and that it is harmful. 

Do better. I am already doing better.

 

[wrestlingguy]

13 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

No 3pt, that would be just silly.  Why would you want to put a child's life and health in literal danger?  I gotta say, I am disappointed in you.  I thought you were someone who was for "reasonable discussion"

 

No reasonable discussion with TPT. He is always just looking to spout off his latest sociology lesson. 

The real world isn't in your college textbook TPT.

[Caveira]

I’ve been in corporate America my whole life.  From fortune 40 to small startups.    Specifically in tech.   In the startup world there is a heavy presence of folks from San Fran , Seattle , Austin , etc.   all the liberal cities.  
 

I’ve never one time  seen blue hair, septum rings, etc.  they simply well I don’t know specially why….. but I know why. 
 

tattoos are more acceptable these days 

[wrestlingguy]

3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

tattoos are more acceptable these days 

If done well they are ok. The people that cover every inch with whatever BS they can come up with including portraits of their children on their breasts is what I think is trashy.

[ThreePointTakedown]

2 hours ago, wrestlingguy said:

 

exactly. It's called a norm for a reason. People with unnaturally colored hair have a pattern and it's called bad judgement, mentally unstable(ie: more sick days because they can't cope with reality), and they are defiant. Nobody in corporate America wants someone that looks like a troll representing a professional company. 

 

So you admit to using your authority to systematically curtail the financial benefit of getting hired for a job because of your bias in particular and the perceived bias of others in your group, towards people that share a superficial characteristic that likely does not affect their ability to do the job or reflects on their work ethic whatsoever.

(you punish people of a certain group for a characteristic they share that you don't happen to like) Congrats you're a bigot. 

 

You've just admitted to systemic oppression existing. Yet you still argue against it. 

 

We rarely see such a slam dunk example of conservatism being harmful. Yet here it is. Mark it on your calendar. 

 

Oh, btw, I hope your employer fires you for being a bigot before they get sued for ever having employed you in the first place. 

 

And look at me... never being associated with or mistaken for being a bigot by sharing anything even close to their views, ideas, or opinions. 

 

(genuflex) 

[ThreePointTakedown]

2 hours ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Thanks for weighing in. But if you followed the conversation I was trying to convince people that systematic oppression DOES exist in this country. 
 

WG just admitted to being in a position to systematically oppress a group of people in the duties of their job. 
 

So I was correct. PEW PEW! 

All there is left to do is for yall to agree and take the ‘L’ if you tried to argue the other way. If not then you’re welcome for the new knowledge. 
 

Hope this helped. 

[wrestlingguy]

55 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

 

exactly. It's called a norm for a reason. People with unnaturally colored hair have a pattern and it's called bad judgement, mentally unstable(ie: more sick days because they can't cope with reality), and they are defiant. Nobody in corporate America wants someone that looks like a troll representing a professional company. 

 

So you admit to using your authority to systematically curtail the financial benefit of getting hired for a job because of your bias in particular and the perceived bias of others in your group, towards people that share a superficial characteristic that likely does not affect their ability to do the job or reflects on their work ethic whatsoever.

(you punish people of a certain group for a characteristic they share that you don't happen to like) Congrats you're a bigot. 

 

You've just admitted to systemic oppression existing. Yet you still argue against it. 

 

We rarely see such a slam dunk example of conservatism being harmful. Yet here it is. Mark it on your calendar. 

 

Oh, btw, I hope your employer fires you for being a bigot before they get sued for ever having employed you in the first place. 

 

And look at me... never being associated with or mistaken for being a bigot by sharing anything even close to their views, ideas, or opinions. 

 

(genuflex) 

You are moving the goal post there butt fucker. Systemic racism/oppression says there is unconscious discrimination based on things like sex and race. You know, things they can't control. Nobody is forcing people to make bad decisions like dyeing their hair pink, but keep on believing your made up victimhood.

Edited March 26 by wrestlingguy

[ThreePointTakedown]

10 minutes ago, wrestlingguy said:

You are moving the goal post there butt fucker. Systemic racism/oppression says there is unconscious discrimination based on things like sex and race. You know, things they can't control. Nobody is forcing people to make bad decisions like dyeing their hair pink, but keep on believing your made up victimhood.

Quite the emotional outburst. Sorry sir or madam, oppression is oppression no matter how you try to dress it up. Racism never factored in. If you were racist that would be one thing and might've led to you not holding that position for very long. You, however, found a way to exercise your bias in a way and upon a group that likely goes unseen by your employer or as you stated is tacitly approved by your employer(THIS IS THE SYSTEMIC PART, DUH). 

 

Which is worse, you doing it alone or the entire field using this practice to deny certain people employment? Do you think you're the only one in this field? Do you think this field is the only one that has unconscious or conscious(in your case) bias that continues to oppress certain groups? 

 

Wow, I can't believe you are actually trying to argue against this now. 

 

Stop digging. 

[jross]

You cannot reengineer human nature.  

Disparities are real but multi-causal.

What better country is there for anyone to succeed?

Strong families and education can only help.  Victimization ideology only hurts.

[wrestlingguy]

4 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

 

Quite the emotional outburst. Sorry sir or madam, oppression is oppression no matter how you try to dress it up. Racism never factored in. If you were racist that would be one thing and might've led to you not holding that position for very long. You, however, found a way to exercise your bias in a way and upon a group that likely goes unseen by your employer or as you stated is tacitly approved by your employer(THIS IS THE SYSTEMIC PART, DUH). 

 

Which is worse, you doing it alone or the entire field using this practice to deny certain people employment? Do you think you're the only one in this field? Do you think this field is the only one that has unconscious or conscious(in your case) bias that continues to oppress certain groups? 

 

Wow, I can't believe you are actually trying to argue against this now. 

 

Stop digging. 

It's not subtle or hidden. It's called efficiency. I don't waste time hiring losers that are just going to quit because they are too fragile or are living proof that they are a piss poor decision maker. Long term is the game. Call me a bigot or whatever phobe you want. 100% retention is the goal. I don't play the stupid games you have going on in your little head.

[jross]

I used to sign off...

The Bigot Brigade.

[mspart]

1 hour ago, jross said:

I used to sign off...

The Bigot Brigade.

You probably irrationally think that one can pull themselves up by their bootstraps and make something of themselves.  Nevermind that you and most everyone else in the world that is even mildly successful has done that, it is an irrational thought. 

mspart

[ThreePointTakedown]

This is how the suburbs started. 

 

https://apnews.com/article/american-objects-250-levittown-house-51ede82b99174a73fb004fb5a48ed3ef

 

'But the first Levittown and others that he built, and suburbs developed by others, weren’t open to all. Federal backing of mortgages was aimed at white buyers, in white communities, not Black buyers. Levitt refused to sell to Black families and included restrictive covenants that barred those who bought the homes from reselling to Black people.'

 

“What Levitt did by creating these exclusively white communities is he set up a structure that still exists today, and it’s a structure that has really maintained racial inequality, even more than class inequality,” Berenson says. “It’s not nearly as bad as it was, but it still exists.”

 

says Ed Berenson, professor of history at New York University and author of “Perfect Communities: Levitt, Levittown and the Dream of White Suburbia.”

[jross]

Up next, the model T is responsible for all modern vehicle deaths. /s

Yes that was bad.  What specific policy today comes directly from Levitt's restrictions? Why have other groups closed gaps faster?

[Bigbrog]

52 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

 

This is how the suburbs started. 

 

https://apnews.com/article/american-objects-250-levittown-house-51ede82b99174a73fb004fb5a48ed3ef

 

'But the first Levittown and others that he built, and suburbs developed by others, weren’t open to all. Federal backing of mortgages was aimed at white buyers, in white communities, not Black buyers. Levitt refused to sell to Black families and included restrictive covenants that barred those who bought the homes from reselling to Black people.'

 

“What Levitt did by creating these exclusively white communities is he set up a structure that still exists today, and it’s a structure that has really maintained racial inequality, even more than class inequality,” Berenson says. “It’s not nearly as bad as it was, but it still exists.”

 

says Ed Berenson, professor of history at New York University and author of “Perfect Communities: Levitt, Levittown and the Dream of White Suburbia.”

Not only what jross asked but what specifically did Levitt do, or what exact "structure" did he put into place that aimed at only "white buyers, in white communities, and not black buyers"??  Be specific.

[ThreePointTakedown]

41 minutes ago, jross said:

Up next, the model T is responsible for all modern vehicle deaths. /s

Yes that was bad.  What specific policy today comes directly from Levitt's restrictions? Why have other groups closed gaps faster?

 

That last question is posed as a claim. You tell me. If you think it has happened then provide evidence for your claim? If not, then it never happened and we don't need to waste time discussing it.

Thank you for acknowledging that it was bad. These were not the only places that followed these practices  

currently policy was never discussed so that question is irrelevant  

That is besides the point. Your question essentially agrees that systemic oppression has happened in this country. Just that other groups weren't effected as much. The effects of THAT oppression, regardless of whether they are still practiced today, can still be felt today. They are still being denied to have ever happened or that they had meaningful effects. As you are doing right now. 

This will keep us from becoming a better union and will continue to treat people in our country as less worthy of equality or equity. If some of us are not treated as equal, then we all suffer. Your privilege might not insulate you from the effects in a meaningful way. 

Why are you really pushing back so hard? Have you sat down and thought about this at all? What could you possibly lose by acknowledging that we as a country have treated groups horribly and should try to address that treatment and the generational effects? 

My guess. Is because we're ashamed of our ancestors. For slavery. For our treatment of Native Americans. We feel that we will be treated by them, the same way they treated us. That would be horrible, I agree. Because it WAS horrible. We were horrible to everyone that didn't look, pray, speak, or think like us. We were able to create an incredibly powerful country and the thought of losing that is quite the dangling sword. 

 

 

[ThreePointTakedown]

26 minutes ago, Bigbrog said:

Not only what jross asked but what specifically did Levitt do, or what exact "structure" did he put into place that aimed at only "white buyers, in white communities, and not black buyers"??  Be specific.

Argh. Do my homework for me? 

Text found in the article. 

'Levitt refused to sell to Black families and included restrictive covenants that barred those who bought the homes from reselling to Black people.'

But since you asked. 

“Levittown (on LI) contained a clause in the lease for rental properties: "The tenant agrees not to permit the premises to be used or occupied by any person other than members of the Caucasian race.” (p. 230) The Committee to End Discrimination in Levittown, including some residents, polled and claimed 61% of residents favored admitting blacks. “William Levitt refused to renew the leases of two families, one who had violated the racial policy by hosting an interracial play group, and the other for simply being sympathetic neighbors.” One of the families to be evicted, the Adolph Ross family, “vowed to stay until ‘the Levitts sign their first lease with a Negro family.'” On 2/19/1952, 400 supporters gathered at the Ross home to await the eviction, “and Levitt finally backed down.” (p. 231) A black, William Cotter, and his family, managed to gain occupancy in 1952 but Levitt evicted them a year later. A white homeowner later sold him a Levittown home.'

https://justice.tougaloo.edu/sundowntown/levittown-ny/

 

Honest question, did you try to search for the answers to these questions? They didn't take long. Can you see how frustrating it is to discuss a topic with someone that doesn't seem interested in the possibility that their take is harmful and wrong. 

[wrestlingguy]

16 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

Why are you really pushing back so hard? Have you sat down and thought about this at all? What could you possibly lose by acknowledging that we as a country have treated groups horribly and should try to address that treatment and the generational effects? The same could be said for you. Why are you pushing back so hard trying to prove there is a boogie man(system oppression) to blame for why some minorities are so much further behind than the rest. Slavery and racism existed. Congratulations? That doesn't mean that society owes any type of reparations for something that happened over 160 years ago. As has been acknowledged time and time again, some people have to work harder than others, but that has nothing to do with skin color. Lebron Jame's great grandchildren are set for life. Am I going to whine about how that isn't fair? No!

My guess. Is because we're ashamed of our ancestors. For slavery. For our treatment of Native Americans. We feel that we will be treated by them, the same way they treated us. That would be horrible, I agree. Because it WAS horrible. We were horrible to everyone that didn't look, pray, speak, or think like us. We were able to create an incredibly powerful country and the thought of losing that is quite the dangling sword. I feel there might be quite a bit of projection with this statement. You let your college sociology professor convince you of your own guilt. Again, we don't have time machines and if we did we would change the past knowing what we know now so the best thing we can do is move forward instead of dwelling on the past. Where would society be without the race card, phobia card, etc?

 

 

 

[wrestlingguy]

Is this still a reasonable discussion?

[ThreePointTakedown]

27 minutes ago, wrestlingguy said:

 

This highlights the disconnect between the two sides of this conversation. It started in 1619 for one group of people. Different times for others. But THAT. IT. PERSISTS. TODAY! 

 

It still happens today. 

It still happens today.

 

It still happens today. 

 

Some levers were put in place decades ago with racist intent. They achieved their goals. Yet they have not been fixed despite acknowledging the effects in the past and THE PRESENT. 

 

They are not owed anything for being stripped of their land and wealth. Systemically moved into particular areas(reservations and red lining). Kept there. Further deprived of land and wealth(eminent domain for city development and gold mining). Then deprived of equal educational opportunities(public education funded by property tax). 

 

Now there are people like you that say, 'screw them, work harder'. All while not acknowledging that the game has been rigged in YOUR favor and against them. And you continue to advocate for the being continually rigged and re enforced for YOU and against THEM.

If you could trade positions, you probably would lay down and cry at how 'hard' you would need to work to achieve the position where you currently sit. 

 

Always checking their bowl to make sure they don't have too much. 

 

You are a pitiful human being. But this is not anything you haven't heard from me before. I'm probably not the first and likely won't be the last. 

 

Race card, phobia card: Not sure what you're asking here? 

Are you saying that 'playing the race/phobia card' is a ploy to get out of responsibility? If so, I would love for you to square that circle after acknowledging that racism and phobias exist(ed) in this country and shape how we think, feel, and act today. I won't hold my breath, that's quite the challenge. 

But if not, please explain? 

 

And it does feel like a bit of projection. Your guilt is a bit too much for you to think about and you don't want to deal with it. So instead you take out your lack of emotional control on people that might make you think about it again. You're kicking the can down the road. You feel bad about it. Good. You should. All the people that try to convince you to not feel bad about 'those people' ARE THE PROBLEM. They are the ones that hate this country by not acknowledging its truth. They are delusional and need others to join in the delusion so they don't have to deal with the guilt. Misery loves company. So does ignorance. 

[wrestlingguy]

10 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

 

This highlights the disconnect between the two sides of this conversation. It started in 1619 for one group of people. Different times for others. But THAT. IT. PERSISTS. TODAY! 

 

It still happens today. Says you. What examples are there that it happens to one group more than others? Is there a NAAWP(National Association for the Advancement of White People)? Affirmative Action, Minority Scholarships, etc disagree with that.

 

 

Some levers Like What? were put in place decades ago with racist intent. They achieved their goals. Yet they have not been fixed despite acknowledging the effects in the past and THE PRESENT. 

 

They are not owed anything for being stripped of their land and wealth. Systemically moved into particular areas(reservations and red lining). Kept there. Further deprived of land and wealth(eminent domain for city development and gold mining). Then deprived of equal educational opportunities(public education funded by property tax). Once example of how we are still compensating for our ancestors screwing over Native American ancestors is the Buy Indian Act.

 

Now there are people like you that say, 'screw them, work harder'. All while not acknowledging that the game has been rigged in YOUR favor and against them. And you continue to advocate for the being continually rigged and re enforced for YOU and against THEM. You ever wonder why I say that life isn't fair and some people just need to work harder and rise above? I grew up poor and overcame it without handouts from the government or preferential treatment. 

If you could trade positions, you probably would lay down and cry at how 'hard' you would need to work to achieve the position where you currently sit. See above

 

Always checking their bowl to make sure they don't have too much. Is that a clinical term?

 

You are a pitiful human being. But this is not anything you haven't heard from me before. I'm probably not the first and likely won't be the last. Because I don't agree with you I am pitiful? You don't know me any more than the last random guy that you let screw your ass.

 

Race card, phobia card: Not sure what you're asking here? 

Are you saying that 'playing the race/phobia card' is a ploy to get out of responsibility? If so, I would love for you to square that circle after acknowledging that racism and phobias exist(ed) in this country and shape how we think, feel, and act today. I won't hold my breath, that's quite the challenge. I already acknowledged that in my last reply to you, unless you didn't read. You are always looking for your next gotcha and always accuse others of not reading shit but you apparently don't read any better.

But if not, please explain? 

 

And it does feel like a bit of projection. Your guilt is a bit too much for you to think about and you don't want to deal with it. I have zero guilt. Why should I feel guilt about shit that happened well before my grandparents were born?So instead you take out your lack of emotional control on people that might make you think about it again. You're kicking the can down the road. You feel bad about it. Good. You should. All the people that try to convince you to not feel bad about 'those people' ARE THE PROBLEM. They are the ones that hate this country by not acknowledging its truth. They are delusional and need others to join in the delusion so they don't have to deal with the guilt. Misery loves company Hence why you are desperate for someone to agree with you. You started the topic, not me.. So does ignorance. 

 

[Bigbrog]

4 minutes ago, wrestlingguy said:

 

THIS!!

[ThreePointTakedown]

18 hours ago, wrestlingguy said:

 

 

Says you. What examples are there that it happens to one group more than others? Is there a NAAWP(National Association for the Advancement of White People)? Affirmative Action, Minority Scholarships, etc disagree with that.

 

Group: poor people. Who makes up a majority of that group: Minorities(Black, hispanic, native american, AAPI)

There doesn't need to be an official organization for the principle to apply. White people have been in power and guiding the levers of power for 250+ years. Many, like you, do not want to admit to being a part of the problem and thus not to blame for the ramifications. Or they don't believe they've done anything wrong. Mostly because they were taught 'those people' either deserve what little they were given or are undeserving of extra consideration regardless of random chance of their birth. 

I don't think you have any idea what Affirmative Action is or how it was implemented. 

Which group was the overwhelming beneficiary of Affirmative Action? Hint, its a group that larger than 'white men'. (ding ding ding) White women. 

 

Minority scholarships: are still a minority of scholarships, disproportionally to the % of those that might need, benefit from, or qualify for them. If you have numbers that prove your claim. Please include them in your rebuttal? 

 

Like What?

Slavery. Jim Crow laws. CIA flooding black and brown neighborhoods with drugs coupled with mandatory minimums for certain drugs being wildly out of balance, in line with which demographic used those drugs. White-cocaine, black-crack cocaine. 

Red lining. 

Considering that the majority of lawmakers in this country have been white men and they refuse to even attempt to address crime with anything other than MORE POLICE! can be argued as racist and systemic. 

Veil of darkness study that proves police are inherently bias during traffic stops. 

Sentencing discrepancies between black/brown and white defendants. 

 

How many more do you need? 

 

Once example of how we are still compensating for our ancestors screwing over Native American ancestors is the Buy Indian Act.

Now address all the other points and tell me that everything is fine? 

 

You ever wonder why I say that life isn't fair and some people just need to work harder and rise above? I grew up poor and overcame it without handouts from the government or preferential treatment. 

I'll bet you didn't grow up as poor as you probably fantasize that you were. Also, I'll bet you grew up white. So right there you have a leg up. But I'll better dollars to donuts that since you haven't realized that yet, you won't realize that any time soon. 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8L2JUJdUco video about how poverty effects the development of the brain

 

Of course you had hand outs. You just don't see them as such. Government likely helped you get educated. Even in a poor white area still gets more school funding and better teachers than poor black and brown areas. Why do we refer to them as black and brown areas? Ever wonder why? Maybe because they were financially forced there by those that controlled the financial levers of power. 

 

Because I don't agree with you I am pitiful? You don't know me any more than the last random guy that you let screw your ass.

Yes I do. You admitted to be an overtly bias person with regards to hiring people with dyed hair or tattoos. You are a POS and I think you know it but you're also stuck in this situation because you would likely be fired or called in for a competence review if you actually hired people based on merit and not on looks. Causing you possible financial hardship. So you need to maintain your bigotry in order to maintain your lifestyle. I hope you enjoy your prison. 

 

I already acknowledged that in my last reply to you, unless you didn't read. You are always looking for your next gotcha and always accuse others of not reading shit but you apparently don't read any better.

Sorry if I can't remember every line of BS and equivocation you type. 

 

I have zero guilt. Why should I feel guilt about shit that happened well before my grandparents were born?

Because its still going on and you have admitted to being a part of the system that keeps down those that you have irrational assumptions about. You're likely a psychopath or have those tendencies that allows you to not feel those emotions. Which makes it easier to be a racist and a bigot. 

 

Hence why you are desperate for someone to agree with you. You started the topic, not me..

Are you trying to say that I am delusional by trying to acknowledge the original sins of this country and try to make up for them? Not the person(s) that continue to deny them or to acknowledge the harm that continues to take place as a result of those sins. As if continuing to harm people will eventually come back around to help them. 

 

 

 

[Bigbrog]

58 minutes ago, ThreePointTakedown said:

 

 

Says you. What examples are there that it happens to one group more than others? Is there a NAAWP(National Association for the Advancement of White People)? Affirmative Action, Minority Scholarships, etc disagree with that.

 

Group: poor people. Who makes up a majority of that group: Minorities(Black, hispanic, native american, AAPI)

There doesn't need to be an official organization for the principle to apply. White people have been in power and guiding the levers of power for 250+ years. Many, like you, do not want to admit to being a part of the problem and thus not to blame for the ramifications. Or they don't believe they've done anything wrong. Mostly because they were taught 'those people' either deserve what little they were given or are undeserving of extra consideration regardless of random chance of their birth. 

I don't think you have any idea what Affirmative Action is or how it was implemented. 

Which group was the overwhelming beneficiary of Affirmative Action? Hint, its a group that larger than 'white men'. (ding ding ding) White women. 

 

Minority scholarships: are still a minority of scholarships, disproportionally to the % of those that might need, benefit from, or qualify for them. If you have numbers that prove your claim. Please include them in your rebuttal? 

 

Like What?

Slavery. Jim Crow laws. CIA flooding black and brown neighborhoods with drugs coupled with mandatory minimums for certain drugs being wildly out of balance, in line with which demographic used those drugs. White-cocaine, black-crack cocaine. 

Red lining. 

Considering that the majority of lawmakers in this country have been white men and they refuse to even attempt to address crime with anything other than MORE POLICE! can be argued as racist and systemic. 

Veil of darkness study that proves police are inherently bias during traffic stops. 

Sentencing discrepancies between black/brown and white defendants. 

 

How many more do you need? 

 

Once example of how we are still compensating for our ancestors screwing over Native American ancestors is the Buy Indian Act.

Now address all the other points and tell me that everything is fine? 

 

You ever wonder why I say that life isn't fair and some people just need to work harder and rise above? I grew up poor and overcame it without handouts from the government or preferential treatment. 

I'll bet you didn't grow up as poor as you probably fantasize that you were. Also, I'll bet you grew up white. So right there you have a leg up. But I'll better dollars to donuts that since you haven't realized that yet, you won't realize that any time soon. 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8L2JUJdUco video about how poverty effects the development of the brain

 

Of course you had hand outs. You just don't see them as such. Government likely helped you get educated. Even in a poor white area still gets more school funding and better teachers than poor black and brown areas. Why do we refer to them as black and brown areas? Ever wonder why? Maybe because they were financially forced there by those that controlled the financial levers of power. 

 

Because I don't agree with you I am pitiful? You don't know me any more than the last random guy that you let screw your ass.

Yes I do. You admitted to be an overtly bias person with regards to hiring people with dyed hair or tattoos. You are a POS and I think you know it but you're also stuck in this situation because you would likely be fired or called in for a competence review if you actually hired people based on merit and not on looks. Causing you possible financial hardship. So you need to maintain your bigotry in order to maintain your lifestyle. I hope you enjoy your prison. 

 

I already acknowledged that in my last reply to you, unless you didn't read. You are always looking for your next gotcha and always accuse others of not reading shit but you apparently don't read any better.

Sorry if I can't remember every line of BS and equivocation you type. 

 

I have zero guilt. Why should I feel guilt about shit that happened well before my grandparents were born?

Because its still going on and you have admitted to being a part of the system that keeps down those that you have irrational assumptions about. You're likely a psychopath or have those tendencies that allows you to not feel those emotions. Which makes it easier to be a racist and a bigot. 

 

Hence why you are desperate for someone to agree with you. You started the topic, not me..

Are you trying to say that I am delusional by trying to acknowledge the original sins of this country and try to make up for them? Not the person(s) that continue to deny them or to acknowledge the harm that continues to take place as a result of those sins. As if continuing to harm people will eventually come back around to help them. 

 

 

 

  At it again...you start by exhibiting some signs of being able to have a "civil" back and forth with people and the moment a person doesn't align exactly with your way of thinking you go off the deep end and once again become the unhinged immature name calling troll.