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Edit - thought this dual was tonight, it's actually on Sunday but I already typed this up so here we go anyways!

Guess I'll start the thread. On paper it's pretty evenly matched - ISU outranks OSU as a team in polls, 6 OSU athletes outrank their opponents. Chris Perry is coaching at ISU, supposedly, but isn't listed on their site. Forrest gets a good test against #3 Frost, #2 Vega against #3 Echemendia, #6 Robideau against #8 Zerban, #7 Merrill against #2 Elam, #6 Doucet vs #1 Bastida. Should be a heck of a dual. Hope the good guys win! 🙂

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Spratley vs Frost … 

0-0 end of first.  Neither did much of anything besides hand fight.  Some half attempts.

2nd - Poulin riding … called for stalling as he wasn’t trying all that hard to return a standing Spratley.  Stalling again.  1-0 Spratley.  Another stall point as P holds a leg .. S escapes right after.  3-0.  Poor poor in match judgment for Poulin.

3rd, P picks neutral.  Has RT.  Poulin not firing.   Can’t break through.  22 sec to go.  Stalling S.  Huh, surprised Poulin wasn’t willing to go for it.

3-0 Spratley.

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Stalling makes no sense at all. Poulin obviously stalled in the 2nd by just hanging on but he spent way less time doing that than Spratley did backing up in the 3rd. 

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Bad 2nd period for Poulin. Reminiscent of Ayala v Fugit

I get that Spratley is one of the best raw hand fighters but, Poulin, man, when you're down by 3 with 20 seconds left you have to take a risk and shoot (easier said than done)! That was a baffling way to end the match

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8 minutes ago, buckshot said:

Stalling makes no sense at all. Poulin obviously stalled in the 2nd by just hanging on but he spent way less time doing that than Spratley did backing up in the 3rd. 

That particular rule change rarely if ever is called for the reason it was invented for.   Watch the Brad Dillon 2003 (Lehigh) ncaa semi march …. It was set up to stop them dropping down to a knee / ankle on a stand up over and over in OT rideouts.   When I guy gets a td and they start immediately counting is about as non sensibly dumb as a rule can be 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Dark Energy said:

Spratley vs Frost … 

0-0 end of first.  Neither did much of anything besides hand fight.  Some half attempts.

2nd - Poulin riding … called for stalling as he wasn’t trying all that hard to return a standing Spratley.  Stalling again.  1-0 Spratley.  Another stall point as P holds a leg .. S escapes right after.  3-0.  Poor poor in match judgment for Poulin.

3rd, P picks neutral.  Has RT.  Poulin not firing.   Can’t break through.  22 sec to go.  Stalling S.  Huh, surprised Poulin wasn’t willing to go for it.

3-0 Spratley.

🙏 for updates!

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Jax Forrest still in while Frost is sick.  Gotta assume he is the post season pick for Ok State.

Osmany Diversent in for Iowa St.  Cuban.  
 

Jax slideby and gets leg in inside.  Eventually down to mat for 3.  Gets a tilt for 2.  OOB.   5-0

ball and chain again!!!   4 this time.  When do you see ball and chain tilts in college?  9-0

F has right leg in.  D is game at times.  Reaching back.  Hmmmm.  OOB.  
 

Stalling D.  Cradle Jax.  4 more NF.  13-0 at end of first.  
 

2nd, neutral.  Jax tries TD to pin but doesn’t work as a pin.  Eventually gets the TD.  16-0.  

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3 Echemendia ISU vs 2 Vega OkSt

1 min in … handfighting.  Ech working head.  Neither taking a risk.  
 

DOUBLE STALL!!!  Call it!!!!  Damn it. I wish.  Refs need to do it.

2 min in.  Now Vegas gets a leg, scooped it.  But Ech gets it back.  Vega lowers but caught under.

2nd - neutral.  Ech on head.  Stall on Vega.  Hmmm.  He is only one that has tried.  Not much but still.  Suppose he was backing a bit more.  30 sec to go.  Announcers think Ech called neutral.

Vega will surely pick down.  
3rd - yup.  Ech free releases.  1-0 Vegas.

Ech working underhook.  Gets a leg … wow.  Almost a TD.  Vega gets away though.  And repeat!!    
 

More action now.  Vega stalling.  1-1

Ech goes and gets leg.  Tries to lift.  Not strong enough (!!!!).  Can’t lift.  Down on mat and Vega grabs Ech ankle.  Tricky situation with Vega threatening.  Called a TD for Vega.  Being reviewed.  Seems fair but again, tricky.  Call upheld.

4-1 Vega.  3 sec left.  Ech gives Vega a big hug.  Respect.  

 

 

 

 

 

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Vega is Houdini with a guy in on his legs.. I knew he was hard to score on.. but I thought he was dead to rights 2 or 3 times in that match and made it look easy getting out of trouble..

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19 minutes ago, Caveira said:

That particular rule change rarely if ever is called for the reason it was invented for.   Watch the Brad Dillon 2003 (Lehigh) ncaa semi march …. It was set up to stop them dropping down to a knee / ankle on a stand up over and over in OT rideouts.   When I guy gets a td and they start immediately counting is about as non sensibly dumb as a rule can be 

 

 

 

I agree. They start calling the second you try to run a tight waste and ankle break down or off a take down. Its dumb.

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18 minutes ago, Coastal said:

I still wish seeds at the NCAAs were based on the team and weight class.  It would end ducking if Iowa State's 133 was the record and seed.  

Interesting

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2 minutes ago, forkemaz said:

I agree. They start calling the second you try to run a tight waste and ankle break down or off a take down. Its dumb.

That Dillon match I added a link to after the fact is exciting af too.  Highly recommend a re watch 

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Jacob Frost vs Swiderski

Must be very familiar.  Is Frost why Swiderski left ISU?  No room for him?

Swid in and has leg up.  F controlling wrists.  Gets leg back.  …. S swipes at a leg but misses.  33 sec.  Frost is not taking risks.  Just lowered.  So does S.  
 

3 min of not much from Frost … need to get the stalls moving more quickly.  
 

2nd - F down.  And out.  6 or 7 seconds.  Standup. 1-0 Frost

F lowers and gets a leg.  But S gets away quickly (?? Easy).   And again, Frost in and has a leg up.  But S gets leg down and away.  Frost looked a bit lost.  No clear move to get the TD there.   Weird.  
 

3rd S down.  Caution S.  S out in 12 sec.  Standup.  Frost working right side underhook.  S in deep.  Frost over top.  Grabbing ankle.  S pauses.  Then adjusts. And gets the TD!!  Big return.  4-1.  Restart.

caution S.  F out.  4-2.  S playing edge.  Keeping butt to OOB.  Stall finally called. 
 

S wins 4-2
 

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