Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 23 Posted January 23 (edited) I get there are a lot of exciting super studs at 133 but why is Lucas Byrd, the undefeated returning NCAA champion who has "old man" strength seemingly being ignored when it comes to discussion of who wins 133? I for one would not be shocked if he repeats. Yes, I get that Davino, Blaze, Larkin, and Jax are all super slick, but I can see Byrd big brothering them with his raw power. Edited January 23 by Jimmy Cinnabon
Crotalus Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Because he's old and boring. People like new and flashy. But make no mistake, he can beat any and all of those guys on any given day. He's as, or more, technically sound as anyone at the weight. It's fun to have a weight with so much parity because everyone is world class rather than because it's a weak weight. Sent from my SM-S936U using Tapatalk
Nak21 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Definitely agree on the new shiny object distractions (Blaze, Davino, Forrest, now Seidel) but I think it’s more than that. I don’t think he’s being overlooked or disrespected, I think most have him in the mix. It’s just that there are SOOOO MANY studs at 133. It honestly may not even come down to who’s the best in March, it may come down to some luck, whoever survives, who’s healthiest, a controversial call, etc. There’s just too many good guys. You’re gonna get a match or 2 (or more) on Thurs night in Rd2 that would historically be a quarter or semi at NCAAs.
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 23 Author Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, Nak21 said: Definitely agree on the new shiny object distractions (Blaze, Davino, Forrest, now Seidel) but I think it’s more than that. I don’t think he’s being overlooked or disrespected, I think most have him in the mix. It’s just that there are SOOOO MANY studs at 133. It honestly may not even come down to who’s the best in March, it may come down to some luck, whoever survives, who’s healthiest, a controversial call, etc. There’s just too many good guys. You’re gonna get a match or 2 (or more) on Thurs night in Rd2 that would historically be a quarter or semi at NCAAs. Good point. Seeding is going to be super important at NCAAs, and thus Big 10s will be critical as so many top guys are there (Byrd, Davino, Blaze, Ayala, Van Dee, Fugitt).
PNWfan Posted January 23 Posted January 23 I have also seen a few cases with Byrd recently where he is unable to get bonus points against significantly inferior competition. To me, that suggests he is more beatable once he gets to the gauntlet of studs at 133. PNWfan
Antitroll2828 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 It’s probably not lack of respect but more fatigue then anything .It could be because he’s a 7th year guy and about to wrestle in his 5th ncaa tournament even though the Covid stuff happened half a decade ago. He’s also 26 going against a field of freshman.
11986 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 rooting for short king Byrd to repeat but think there are too many landmines and it's incredibly hard to repeat to begin with so give me the field over Byrd if there's money involved.
ionel Posted January 23 Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, 11986 said: rooting for short king Byrd to repeat but think there are too many landmines and it's incredibly hard to repeat to begin with so give me the field over Byrd if there's money involved. The Jimmy might cover that. .
neweruser69 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 I look forward to seeing who the 133 cut hurts the most at the tourney. Byrd/Blaze/Forrest seem like they could have issues.
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted January 23 Author Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, neweruser69 said: I look forward to seeing who the 133 cut hurts the most at the tourney. Byrd/Blaze/Forrest seem like they could have issues. Blaze and Forrest are big 133 pounders? They both look like they could make 125.
MPhillips Posted January 23 Posted January 23 9 minutes ago, rsotelo said: This is probably a big reason why: That's what he said... 1 hour ago, Antitroll2828 said: It’s probably not lack of respect but more fatigue then anything .It could be because he’s a 7th year guy and about to wrestle in his 5th ncaa tournament even though the Covid stuff happened half a decade ago. He’s also 26 going against a field of freshman. .
Antitroll2828 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, MPhillips said: That's what he said...
El Luchador Posted January 23 Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, ionel said: Byrd is the Word How much more respect does he need?
ionel Posted January 23 Posted January 23 8 minutes ago, El Luchador said: 8 minutes ago, El Luchador said: Now that's the kind've respect we are talking about! .
El Luchador Posted January 23 Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, ionel said: Now that's the kind've respect we are talking about! If he won't do the Surfing Bird dance he deserves no respect. If he is getting NIL money and it's not contingent on the Bird dance we as fans have been let down again. He should be contractually obligated to walk out to Surfing Bird.
ionel Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 minute ago, El Luchador said: If he won't do the Surfing Bird dance he deserves no respect. If he is getting NIL money and it's not contingent on the Bird dance we as fans have been let down again. He should be contractually obligated to walk out to Surfing Bird. Would you like me to check with Jeremy? .
El Luchador Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 minute ago, ionel said: Would you like me to check with Jeremy? The people deserve to know.
neweruser69 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Blaze and Forrest are big 133 pounders? They both look like they could make 125. Blaze beat Bassett/Hardy over the summer at 65KG/143LBS. Forrest's frame to me looks like he could jump a few weight classes if he redshirted and put on horsepower.
Tyler Perry Posted January 23 Posted January 23 4 hours ago, PNWfan said: I have also seen a few cases with Byrd recently where he is unable to get bonus points against significantly inferior competition. To me, that suggests he is more beatable once he gets to the gauntlet of studs at 133. If you watch the matches, they are usually pretty controlled. He just doesn’t open it up much, he’s been that way his whole career
CHROMEBIRD Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Because his wife isn't matside and on camera like ops queen Moriah was with Bull.
GimJustafan Posted January 23 Posted January 23 7 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: I get there are a lot of exciting super studs at 133 but why is Lucas Byrd, the undefeated returning NCAA champion who has "old man" strength seemingly being ignored when it comes to discussion of who wins 133? I for one would not be shocked if he repeats. Yes, I get that Davino, Blaze, Larkin, and Jax are all super slick, but I can see Byrd big brothering them with his raw power.
MPhillips Posted January 23 Posted January 23 56 minutes ago, Tyler Perry said: If you watch the matches, they are usually pretty controlled. He just doesn’t open it up much, he’s been that way his whole career .
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