No PJ Duke?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

At 157 vs Oklahoma there was no Duke and no Kasak. 
 

Instead they trotted out the bigger version of Braeden Davis. 
 

What gives?

[PortaJohn]

He missed weight.  How many more useless threads do you have lined up?

[Hammerlock3]

anything to drown out the realization that Cael doesn't care about wrestling as long as he's on top of it. 

[Nak21]

They’re easing his transition into the college folk style season. Probably Army Black Knight Invitational will be his first action. Rumor he didn’t make weight was floating around but doesn’t appear to be true. Either way, embarrassment of riches. Trot out the 3rd stringer and roll to a TF.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

18 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

He missed weight.  How many more useless threads do you have lined up?

Uh oh. This early in the season that doesn’t bode well for a smooth freshman campaign. 

[BIGTENFANBOY]

PJ pulled a duck because he was going to get teched because wrestlestat said so.

[ionel]

1 hour ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

At 157 vs Oklahoma there was no Duke and no Kasak. 
 

Instead they trotted out the bigger version of Braeden Davis. 
 

What gives?

Did they need em? 

[Truzzcat]

1 hour ago, Nak21 said:

They’re easing his transition into the college folk style season. Probably Army Black Knight Invitational will be his first action. Rumor he didn’t make weight was floating around but doesn’t appear to be true. Either way, embarrassment of riches. Trot out the 3rd stringer and roll to a TF.

I had not heard he missed weight until porta reported it but now interested where you are hearing it is not true. Only reason I ask is because I had speculated that I thought giving him body time to get heavier after u23's may actually make 157 far less possible for him despite holding down 70kg for half a year.

[PortaJohn]

8 hours ago, Truzzcat said:

I had not heard he missed weight until porta reported it but now interested where you are hearing it is not true. Only reason I ask is because I had speculated that I thought giving him body time to get heavier after u23's may actually make 157 far less possible for him despite holding down 70kg for half a year.

He's getting his weight in check.  That's true.  He'll be at the Black Knight Invitational 

Edited November 15, 2025 by PortaJohn

[Pinnacle]

Nice to see Joe Sealey get in on the fun.

[GV4444]

11 hours ago, BIGTENFANBOY said:

PJ pulled a duck because he was going to get teched because wrestlestat said so.

That's it!   

Wait, if he didn't wrestle last night, won't he be in the same situation for his next match?

Well, you can expect some ducking from Wrestlestat's 3rd ranked dual team.

 

Edited November 15, 2025 by GV4444

[Truzzcat]

2 hours ago, PortaJohn said:

He's getting his weight in check.  That's true.  He'll be at the Black Knight Invitational 

I would pay a decent amount of money to see him and kasak but I assume Kasak will forfeit if they both hit in the finals since hes shirting.

[Nak21]

13 hours ago, Truzzcat said:

I had not heard he missed weight until porta reported it but now interested where you are hearing it is not true. Only reason I ask is because I had speculated that I thought giving him body time to get heavier after u23's may actually make 157 far less possible for him despite holding down 70kg for half a year.

A lady doesn’t kiss and tell…

I’m not a lady…anyway, my sources say that rumor on X isn’t true. And that’s it’s purely transitioning him into college life, college wrestling, folk style after all the summer freestyle work.

The cynic in me says well what about Blaze then? Why Duke but not Blaze. So who knows? Maybe it’s weight, maybe it’s just the descent plan, maybe it’s college life, maybe it’s free style to folk after a super busy summer and early fall internationally.

He misses anything else or much else, I’ll worry. As of now, hard to not trust Cael, he seems to have this winning at wrestling thing pretty well figured out.

[BIGTENFANBOY]

Black Knight is NOT an Open tournament, so competing in it will burn a redshirt ( unless you're a true freshman) Kasak and Davis WILL NOT be competing there unless they burn their redshirt.

[ScottishSteel]

30 minutes ago, BIGTENFANBOY said:

Black Knight is NOT an Open tournament, so competing in it will burn a redshirt ( unless you're a true freshman) Kasak and Davis WILL NOT be competing there unless they burn their redshirt.

There's the Black Knight Open and the Black Knight Invite on consecutive November weekends; do they both operate with the same rules?

[scourge165]

20 hours ago, Nak21 said:

A lady doesn’t kiss and tell…

I’m not a lady…anyway, my sources say that rumor on X isn’t true. And that’s it’s purely transitioning him into college life, college wrestling, folk style after all the summer freestyle work.

The cynic in me says well what about Blaze then? Why Duke but not Blaze. So who knows? Maybe it’s weight, maybe it’s just the descent plan, maybe it’s college life, maybe it’s free style to folk after a super busy summer and early fall internationally.

He misses anything else or much else, I’ll worry. As of now, hard to not trust Cael, he seems to have this winning at wrestling thing pretty well figured out.

He Wrestled the U20, U23 and the Sr World Championships...

He traveled and put in a bit more time than Blaze.

Plus, wasn't Sealey a U20 World Champ? How many guys have a Sealey as their #3/#4? 

I mean, technically he's their #2 with Ty Watson as their #3 since PJ Duke is ranked like 227th, but I have him in the top 40 at least, maybe top 30. I have a feeling he's going to out-perform that 227 ranking.

[Pinnacle]

18 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

He Wrestled the U20, U23 and the Sr World Championships...

He traveled and put in a bit more time than Blaze.

Plus, wasn't Sealey a U20 World Champ? How many guys have a Sealey as their #3/#4? 

I mean, technically he's their #2 with Ty Watson as their #3 since PJ Duke is ranked like 227th, but I have him in the top 40 at least, maybe top 30. I have a feeling he's going to out-perform that 227 ranking.

 

People's perspective on Joe Sealey is tainted by a couple of matches last year. I know the guy he wrestled from Oklahoma wasn't a top ten guy, but if anyone were to just watch "how" Sealey went after it they'd maybe think the needle got moved for his wrestling. If he were Penn State's starter this year he'd beat a lot of guys. 

[scourge165]

13 minutes ago, Pinnacle said:

 

People's perspective on Joe Sealey is tainted by a couple of matches last year. I know the guy he wrestled from Oklahoma wasn't a top ten guy, but if anyone were to just watch "how" Sealey went after it they'd maybe think the needle got moved for his wrestling. If he were Penn State's starter this year he'd beat a lot of guys. 

Maybe. He was expected to be a stud right out of the gate. If he went to a... hell, I don't know, a school that develops Wrestlers, he could still be a kid who I think would be top 5. It doesn't help when you have the likely #1 and #2 in your own room. But... whatever. 

Put him in good program and I think he'd be fine. 

[Pinnacle]

36 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Maybe. He was expected to be a stud right out of the gate. If he went to a... hell, I don't know, a school that develops Wrestlers, he could still be a kid who I think would be top 5. It doesn't help when you have the likely #1 and #2 in your own room. But... whatever. 

Put him in good program and I think he'd be fine. 

You just implied that Penn State doesn't develop wrestlers. Hard to take this seriously.

[scourge165]

18 hours ago, Pinnacle said:

You just implied that Penn State doesn't develop wrestlers. Hard to take this seriously.

No, I didn't. You Penn State folks(a couple of you) are so hyper sensitive these days that you read into everything.

I'm SAYING he's behind TWO Wrestlers who'd be favorites for an NCAA Title and if he went to another school... and I was going to say a Cornell type school but I deleted that because I didn't want to argue about a hypothetical or about how Shapiro is at '57, but if he went somewhere else, a school that develops Wrestlers(Nebraska was my next guess, but... then they've got a solid '57 as well, don't they), I think he'd do well.

 

So... whine about how you read my inferences despite EVERYTHING I've said about PSU. Just said I think they'll have 6 champs and 2 others with a chance... but you didn't choose to be offended about that... did you? I'm guessing you could "take me seriously" 

 

Funny you omit this part.

20 hours ago, scourge165 said:

I mean, technically he's their #2 with Ty Watson as their #3 since PJ Duke is ranked like 227th, but I have him in the top 40 at least, maybe top 30. I have a feeling he's going to out-perform that 227 ranking.

Do you believe I think Duke is the 227th best Wrestler? 

Or... were you able to overlook the "inference" I was making that there were 226 better Wrestlers than him?

Edited November 17, 2025 by scourge165

[scorenomore]

Duke made 70kg which is 154; he’s a professional and I’d be surprised if he didn’t make weight. The dude was on three world teams and deserves some recovery time before a grinder of college wrestling. 

[nhs67]

7 minutes ago, scorenomore said:

Duke made 70kg which is 154; he’s a professional and I’d be surprised if he didn’t make weight. The dude was on three world teams and deserves some recovery time before a grinder of college wrestling. 

Many, many people are saying he didn't make weight.  Many people close to the program.

[scorenomore]

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

Many, many people are saying he didn't make weight.  Many people close to the program.

Alright, I believe it then. Still surprised though!  I wonder if that means they do a light pitch count or the use some of his 5 dates and then make a final decision