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The Only Rankings That Matter in The PreSeason

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Truzzcat Big Brain

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Only notes:

I would have Sotelo somewhere in r16 or r12 at 125

Shawyver had a sneaky good summer despite not winning a match he lost to north korea at worlds 5-4 and Yassengeldi 4-3 at the ranking series I think he gets on the podium.

Love that you have Mendoza aa'ing I think I would have him all the way at 5 but I may be overly bullish on him

 

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Gus Big Brain

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3 hours ago, Truzzcat said:

Only notes:

I would have Sotelo somewhere in r16 or r12 at 125

Shawyver had a sneaky good summer despite not winning a match he lost to north korea at worlds 5-4 and Yassengeldi 4-3 at the ranking series I think he gets on the podium.

Love that you have Mendoza aa'ing I think I would have him all the way at 5 but I may be overly bullish on him

 

141 is gonna be fun to watch. Mendez is the favorite with Hardy a solid second. There are a lot of guys moving into the weight from last year - Ech, Bailey, Davis, Mendoza, Ragusin, Romney, Manville. And then the guys coming off redshirt like Jack and Stanich along with two other returning AA’s in Composto and Vombaur

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Husker_Du Big Brain

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141 is really fun. something that stood out when doing these was the depth or lack there of at different weights. 

141 is nice. 149 is awful. 174 is fun. 184 is almost all promising FR and then falls off a damn cliff.

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Tdub157 Novice

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133 is an awesome weight again. Adding the likes of Blaze, Davino, and Crookham from injury should bring some fireworks. Will be interesting to see how some of the staples of the weight class (Byrd and Ayala) navigate the young guys 

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Gus Big Brain

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6 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

141 is really fun. something that stood out when doing these was the depth or lack there of at different weights. 

141 is nice. 149 is awful. 174 is fun. 184 is almost all promising FR and then falls off a damn cliff.

I wonder if there is a chance for any of the 141 or 157 guys to move into 149. On FRL they were making it sound like it would be a huge leap for Swiderski to make the finals at 149 and honestly to me he is in a tier with 4 other guys that have a shot at the finals unless someone else really emerges. I have SVN on tier 1 island and then tier 2 is Lachlan, Swiderski, Stiles and Paniro/Frost. There is a chance for Aden Valencia to move into tier 2 but i need to see some wins first. 

Gus Big Brain

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1 hour ago, Tdub157 said:

133 is an awesome weight again. Adding the likes of Blaze, Davino, and Crookham from injury should bring some fireworks. Will be interesting to see how some of the staples of the weight class (Byrd and Ayala) navigate the young guys 

133 is super deep. There are going to be some very good wrestlers left off the podium. 

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56 minutes ago, Gus said:

I wonder if there is a chance for any of the 141 or 157 guys to move into 149. On FRL they were making it sound like it would be a huge leap for Swiderski to make the finals at 149 and honestly to me he is in a tier with 4 other guys that have a shot at the finals unless someone else really emerges. I have SVN on tier 1 island and then tier 2 is Lachlan, Swiderski, Stiles and Paniro/Frost. There is a chance for Aden Valencia to move into tier 2 but i need to see some wins first. 

The concerns with Swiderski are two-fold:
- He had a over a year off from even stepping on a mat - let alone competing.  In an interview a few weeks ago he had said he had only been on the mat for two weeks.  That's a long layoff.  You don't get better by not wrestling.
- He doesn't really have any marquee wins.  The Watters one isn't really one because it was avenged in dominating fashion at NCAAs and on top of that, it was a True Frosh without much name recognition.

Those two main concerns/justifications are coming from the biggest Swiderski nuthugger on these here forums, btw.

I have high hopes and hope to see him bring home a 1st place finish come March.

"I know actually nothing.  It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me

 

 

MPhillips Big Brain

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1 minute ago, juniorvarsity said:

Is it well established that Braeden Davis and Aaron Nagao are going 141? That leaves on Blaze at 133

Been talked about quite a bit...

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MPhillips Big Brain

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31 minutes ago, juniorvarsity said:

I know it has been talked about and Penn State does not share much info, so I was curious if this is certain

Apologies. I thought you asked, "Is it well established that Braeden Davis and Aaron Nagao are going 141?"

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GimJustafan College Starter

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3 hours ago, Tdub157 said:

133 is an awesome weight again. Adding the likes of Blaze, Davino, and Crookham from injury should bring some fireworks. Will be interesting to see how some of the staples of the weight class (Byrd and Ayala) navigate the young guys 

133 deepest weight class ?

Gus Big Brain

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2 hours ago, nhs67 said:

The concerns with Swiderski are two-fold:
- He had a over a year off from even stepping on a mat - let alone competing.  In an interview a few weeks ago he had said he had only been on the mat for two weeks.  That's a long layoff.  You don't get better by not wrestling.
- He doesn't really have any marquee wins.  The Watters one isn't really one because it was avenged in dominating fashion at NCAAs and on top of that, it was a True Frosh without much name recognition.

Those two main concerns/justifications are coming from the biggest Swiderski nuthugger on these here forums, btw.

I have high hopes and hope to see him bring home a 1st place finish come March.

D'Emilio is a 2x AA that shows up in March so that is a solid win for Swiderski but I generally agree with you. I think it moreso points to the lack of depth at 149 than it does my confidence in Swid. One takeaway that I have from from listening to the OSU interviews and such is that it seems like Swid has taken hold of the spot in the room. There is a lot of depth in that room so if he is comfortably in the lead for the spot then I would take that as a positive thing. The lack of wrestling is concerning though. 

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5 minutes ago, Gus said:

D'Emilio is a 2x AA that shows up in March so that is a solid win for Swiderski but I generally agree with you. I think it moreso points to the lack of depth at 149 than it does my confidence in Swid. One takeaway that I have from from listening to the OSU interviews and such is that it seems like Swid has taken hold of the spot in the room. There is a lot of depth in that room so if he is comfortably in the lead for the spot then I would take that as a positive thing. The lack of wrestling is concerning though. 

He didn't show up the year Swiderski beat him, though - his first at 149lbs.

"I know actually nothing.  It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me

 

 

nhs67 Big Brain

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19 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

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I know, I know.  He had that dog in him.  He did have 13 losses and didn't AA that year, though.

"I know actually nothing.  It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me

 

 

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3 hours ago, MPhillips said:

Apologies. I thought you asked, "Is it well established that Braeden Davis and Aaron Nagao are going 141?"

Your answer with ... read to me like you were saying it was a yes and obvious

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