Shut Down Optics

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1 hour ago, red viking said:

so they had grade inflation there too? 

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14 hours ago, Caveira said:

This wasn’t that long ago 

 

I don’t believe the debt ceiling is at issue in the 2025 shutdown so all the default stuff Obama said in 2013 is not relevant.   In my mind we should look at what finally happens after everything is resolved to decide who is to blame for the shutdown.  In 2013 republicans that controlled the house wouldn’t pass a budget without defunding the ACA.  Democrats in the senate and the president were never going to go for that.  And ultimately it was not defunded when the shutdown was resolved and a budget passed.

This time it is again the ACA at issue, but the enhanced PTCs.  If after the shutdown ends a budget is passed, and the enhanced PTCs are allowed to expire then the democrats are going to be to blame.  They ultimately attempted to get something that was never going to happen.  However if the enhanced PTCs are extended even in a modified form Republicans dragging their feet beyond the end of the fiscal year and the start of ACA open enrollment will be to blame.  

[Caveira]

Wonder who all this snap $$ is going to all of a sudden?   Probably Americans right ??

 

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The first response is “it almost matches the immigration chart exactly”

[Le duke]

Wonder who all this snap $$ is going to all of a sudden?   Probably Americans right ??
 

Maybe it’s because rent has kept on increasing and the minimum wage has stayed the same for a long, long time?


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[Caveira]

2 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Maybe it’s because rent has kept on increasing and the minimum wage has stayed the same for a long, long time?


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Maybe they are giving it away hand and fist to illegal aliens.  
 

property value rises.  With that so do property taxes.   Why shouldn’t rent increase with it ?    

Edited October 31, 2025 by Caveira

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taxes

what are those? 

we need more of them

it won't hurt anything 

[mspart]

The Shut down as I see it.   The Rs put together a CR that lasted until end of Nov I believe so they could iron out all this other stuff.   Ds said that is not good enough, it has to be now.   So the Ds are not voting for the CR.   Period end of story.

mspart

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Nancy Pelosi (probably) this last week:

Oh, that's what was in it.

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On 10/31/2025 at 10:20 AM, Le duke said:

Maybe it’s because rent has kept on increasing and the minimum wage has stayed the same for a long, long time?


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Minimum has gone up though. 

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[Paul158]

38 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

 

The Democrats just want to throw more money on a problem instead of fixing it. It doesn't work. Full stop!!!!!