Nate Jeuroga back at Navy

[Truzzcat]

Pretty cool interview. For those not aware Nate was a top 5 p4p guy and @Husker_Du would know better but I believe he was top 3 for his class. Kid was an absolute machine on the mat prototypical seabolt style. Interview goes into his mindset around losing to jax and concussion issues, was a bit shocked to here he dropped at buds. Really puts into perspective how freaking hard it is to become a seal. Would love to see him back in the sport and hope whatever happens hes happy and healthy.

[CHROMEBIRD]

Would love to see him back on the mat also. Maybe he and his brother could be a package deal somewhere. I haven't watched the interview, but a lot of Iowa fans thought at the time that 4 years in the Iowa wrestling room + college would better prepare him than just diving right in after hs. Dunno anything about this stuff, but I seem to remember folks saying that getting through the first couple of phases of BUD/S is as much about sheer luck as it is physical & mental ability, and that it's common for candidates drop for arbitrary reasons. 

[Truzzcat]

1 hour ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

Would love to see him back on the mat also. Maybe he and his brother could be a package deal somewhere. I haven't watched the interview, but a lot of Iowa fans thought at the time that 4 years in the Iowa wrestling room + college would better prepare him than just diving right in after hs. Dunno anything about this stuff, but I seem to remember folks saying that getting through the first couple of phases of BUD/S is as much about sheer luck as it is physical & mental ability, and that it's common for candidates drop for arbitrary reasons. 

Seems like he went in as not a great swimmer but he has intentions of going back after becoming an officer at the academy.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 hour ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

Would love to see him back on the mat also. Maybe he and his brother could be a package deal somewhere. I haven't watched the interview, but a lot of Iowa fans thought at the time that 4 years in the Iowa wrestling room + college would better prepare him than just diving right in after hs. Dunno anything about this stuff, but I seem to remember folks saying that getting through the first couple of phases of BUD/S is as much about sheer luck as it is physical & mental ability, and that it's common for candidates drop for arbitrary reasons. 

I've heard there is no rhyme or reason.  You can't figure out who is going to drop.  Like, they lose a ton in the first hour or so!  They have all met the qualifications but there is  no way of knowing whether the d1 all American is going to make it or the high school skateboarder.

[Wrestleknownothing]

2 hours ago, Truzzcat said:

Seems like he went in as not a great swimmer but he has intentions of going back after becoming an officer at the academy.

Have him call me. 

[Le duke]

Pretty cool interview. For those not aware Nate was a top 5 p4p guy and [mention=7]Husker_Du[/mention] would know better but I believe he was top 3 for his class. Kid was an absolute machine on the mat prototypical seabolt style. Interview goes into his mindset around losing to jax and concussion issues, was a bit shocked to here he dropped at buds. Really puts into perspective how freaking hard it is to become a seal. Would love to see him back in the sport and hope whatever happens hes happy and healthy.

A non-swimmer failing a swim-heavy selection? Color me shocked.

Also, it will be very, very difficult for him to be admitted to USNA. Unlike kids straight out of HS, enlisted sailors receive no preference for athletics. Could see him back at Iowa or some other school but I would be incredibly surprised if USNA accepted him.

Plus…his justification for wanting to commission plus the lack of a plan (major, job as an officer) is not going to win anyone over.


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[bnwtwg]

1 hour ago, Le duke said:

A non-swimmer failing a swim-heavy selection? Color me shocked.

Also, it will be very, very difficult for him to be admitted to USNA. Unlike kids straight out of HS, enlisted sailors receive no preference for athletics. Could see him back at Iowa or some other school but I would be incredibly surprised if USNA accepted him.

Plus…his justification for wanting to commission plus the lack of a plan (major, job as an officer) is not going to win anyone over.


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yeesh how do you really feel

[One8alpha]

Only about 5% of 18-21 make it through BUDS.  Most of the enlisted candidates have college degrees. Elite athletes have a difficult time because of their hubris.  

[MPhillips]

3 hours ago, One8alpha said:

Elite athletes have a difficult time because of their hubris.  

Hubris-excessive pride or self-confidence.

Dummies in the back. You know who you are...

[Caveira]

14 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

yeesh how do you really feel

Isn’t he a pretty staunch pro psu anti Iowa poster?

[Wrestleknownothing]

28 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Isn’t he a pretty staunch pro psu anti Iowa poster?

Check out his avatar. I don't think his take has anything to do with fandom. 

[Le duke]

Check out his avatar. I don't think his take has anything to do with fandom. 

He doesn’t know what that is.


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[Hammerlock3]

something is off with the kid. 

[H82Lose]

13 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

something is off with the kid. 

I am glad you said it first. I told my kid to watch the interview and tell me what he thought.  I am going to sound like a complete a$$hole, but he seems really slow and has a hard time processing things.  Maybe that is all the concussions? I do not know. Hell, he seemed almost stoned. I do wish him the best, and he had a ton of talent, I would hate to see that wasted. 

[Hammerlock3]

1 hour ago, H82Lose said:

I am glad you said it first. I told my kid to watch the interview and tell me what he thought.  I am going to sound like a complete a$$hole, but he seems really slow and has a hard time processing things.  Maybe that is all the concussions? I do not know. Hell, he seemed almost stoned. I do wish him the best, and he had a ton of talent, I would hate to see that wasted. 

we'd all like this to be a happy story, but backstage is never clean.

[CHROMEBIRD]

On 10/17/2025 at 5:41 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I've heard there is no rhyme or reason.  You can't figure out who is going to drop.  Like, they lose a ton in the first hour or so!  They have all met the qualifications but there is  no way of knowing whether the d1 all American is going to make it or the high school skateboarder.

Yeah, I read that many of the drops are due to sickness or injury, like one guy got sick from a bacterial infection from sitting in ocean runoff after a storm and had to drop; another rang the bell after someone lost their helmet and it flew into his face and broke his jaw. But it also has a lot to do with unprepared new recruits being allowed to enter the course. 

Overall, the failure rate is around 70% (though that number spiked to 93% several  years ago), but Naval Academy officers OTOH have close to a 90% success rate, mostly because they go through years of training before BUD/S. Prior to 2006, enlistees had to go to A School and make rate before they could apply for special warfare. That way, sailors who dropped out of the course could go back to the jobs they were trained for. But when Rumsfeld dropped the requirement in order to expand the SEAL pipeline, the Navy ended up with a bunch of "undesignated" SEAL recruits with no rate or career path if they didn't make it through the program.  A lot of SEAL dropouts end up scraping paint and cleaning toilets and filling whatever low-skill jobs is available, because it's the only thing they're eligible for. It's no wonder PEDs are a thing among SEAL candidates. Anything to give you an edge and keep from potentially falling through the cracks.

The Navy said they'd make improvements to the system over the past few years, so hopefully guys like Nate are on a good path now.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

4 hours ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

Yeah, I read that many of the drops are due to sickness or injury, like one guy got sick from a bacterial infection from sitting in ocean runoff after a storm and had to drop; another rang the bell after someone lost their helmet and it flew into his face and broke his jaw. But it also has a lot to do with unprepared new recruits being allowed to enter the course. 

Overall, the failure rate is around 70% (though that number spiked to 93% several  years ago), but Naval Academy officers OTOH have close to a 90% success rate, mostly because they go through years of training before BUD/S. Prior to 2006, enlistees had to go to A School and make rate before they could apply for special warfare. That way, sailors who dropped out of the course could go back to the jobs they were trained for. But when Rumsfeld dropped the requirement in order to expand the SEAL pipeline, the Navy ended up with a bunch of "undesignated" SEAL recruits with no rate or career path if they didn't make it through the program.  A lot of SEAL dropouts end up scraping paint and cleaning toilets and filling whatever low-skill jobs is available, because it's the only thing they're eligible for. It's no wonder PEDs are a thing among SEAL candidates. Anything to give you an edge and keep from potentially falling through the cracks.

The Navy said they'd make improvements to the system over the past few years, so hopefully guys like Nate are on a good path now.

I listened to a podcast the other week, and I don't think anyone is unprepared these days.  Guy was a career SEAL and said he wouldn't have been accepted into BUD/S these days because all of the new candidates are blowing away the requirements relative to when he went through selection 30 years ago.

Also, a kid I coached was a successful Naval Academy wrestler and a SEAL.  He did not know that he was going to BUD/S until November-ish of his senior year.  He was hopeful, but didn't know for sure.  I wouldn't say he had years of preparing.  Also a top 1% physical specimen.

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[Truzzcat]

I wonder what weight he would be. I feel like 125 is a hard pull once you have actually given your body time to grow and I assume hes put on tissue since he started serving. He had a super small frame in high school though so I feel like he could struggle with guys at 133/141.

[Caveira]

23 hours ago, Le duke said:

He doesn’t know what that is.


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Calling out a kid for trying out for buds is classless no matter what your avatar is.  Probably more classless if the avatar is real 

Edited 4 hours ago by Caveira

[Le duke]

Calling out a kid for trying out for buds is classless no matter what your avatar is.  Probably more classless if the avatar is real 

Grow up. It’s not a personal attack to suggest that a person with very limited experience swimming and a non-ideal body type for it would struggle to swim well, or that they might struggle overall in a swim-heavy selection process.

Similarly, really big dudes, who are often pretty decent swimmers, are miserable in mountainous or high altitude environments.


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