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3 minutes ago, Le duke said:

That is my understanding.

In this scenario, it sounds like Cael was made aware that someone stole from Beau Bartlett. It sounds like he reported it to the University PD, who reviewed footage and identified two guys as persons of interest. 

1) If that is as far as Cael/coaching staff's knowledge of the problem(s) goes, they are fine. 

2) If any member coaching staff knew that Carter was harming anyone, they should be fired. End of story.

Plus the pics too

Beau and Mark, a former teammate who requested anonymity due to fear of retaliation, alleged Starocci took nonconsensual explicit photos of them in the Nittany Lions’ locker room. Beau said the photos were reported to Sanderson along with the theft, but nothing came of it from the coach.

Posted
55 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

this seems like bartlett and his wife are the ones who found the "victims" here and it just doesn't have a strong ring of truth 

Bartlett and by extension his family are extremely high character and honest as can be. GFY. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Tripnsweep said:

Bartlett and by extension his family are extremely high character and honest as can be. GFY. 

his girlfriend somehow found multiple girls who had the same story to tell, and instead of going to police, she decides to go to starocci's girlfriend instead? yea, that makes a TON of sense. I wonder where she learned how to investigate sexual crimes and how to find victims so easily that the police and university couldn't find. she is a real crime stopper!!!

Posted
1 minute ago, WrestlingRash said:

his girlfriend somehow found multiple girls who had the same story to tell, and instead of going to police, she decides to go to starocci's girlfriend instead? yea, that makes a TON of sense. I wonder where she learned how to investigate sexual crimes and how to find victims so easily that the police and university couldn't find. she is a real crime stopper!!!

What the media won't tell you is that when Syd was a little girl she found Carmen San Diego when nobody else could.  Check Mate, bro.

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Still catching up with this thread, but yeah, that article is pretty shocking but at the same time not 100% surprising. Starocci has always been about flexing power and asserting his will upon others in toxic ways. Even the milder stuff that dripped out before all this, like the way he'd allegedly hand pick guys from the lineup and have them show up hours before practice to wrestle live with him; or made Barr wrestle with him and wouldn't let him go, supposedly after 4 hours. Maybe it's one of the reasons why Ryder bailed too. 

Starocci and the PSU staff need to FO after all this FA.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, Le duke said:

"Nothing happened" doesn't mean that the coaches did nothing. 

Now, maybe Cael did nothing. That is very possible.

But, based on the fact that security footage was reviewed, and two people of interest were subsequently identified, I'm guessing that means Cael or another coach contacted the PD, as required.

Weird response to my statement that it is not a nothing burger.   Does it make it okay if Cael did nothing wrong?

Beau also said he report the naked pictures to the coach as well.   

Again, I do think the source matters, especially when they are putting their reputation on the line.   It sure seems like Beau had the expectation that something would happen after he reported it and whatever that was, it did not occur.  

Don't worry, I seriously doubt the winningest coach in State College will take the fall for this.   Bassett will probably still commit to PSU and they will dominate next season and beyond.   Nothing to see hear...  

Posted
20 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

his girlfriend somehow found multiple girls who had the same story to tell, and instead of going to police, she decides to go to starocci's girlfriend instead? yea, that makes a TON of sense. I wonder where she learned how to investigate sexual crimes and how to find victims so easily that the police and university couldn't find. she is a real crime stopper!!!

Not saying you're wrong but I've seen plenty of victims go to the current GF and still be afraid to go to police. Have you heard of the facebook group "have you dated that guy before?" ....that's basically the entire premise and it's very common for people to go that route, also very common for them to exaggerate so I'm not saying Carter is guilty just that the way this is being reported is not exonerating him either.

Posted
1 minute ago, HokieDave87 said:

Not saying you're wrong but I've seen plenty of victims go to the current GF and still be afraid to go to police. Have you heard of the facebook group "have you dated that guy before?" ....that's basically the entire premise and it's very common for people to go that route, also very common for them to exaggerate so I'm not saying Carter is guilty just that the way this is being reported is not exonerating him either.

the victims didn't go to Starocci's girlfriend, they went to bartletts girl. this smells fishy. seems like bartlett might just be married to a complete psychopath. I bet she is the one who called the newspaper as well. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

the victims didn't go to Starocci's girlfriend, they went to bartletts girl. this smells fishy. seems like bartlett might just be married to a complete psychopath. I bet she is the one who called the newspaper as well. 

Please go away.

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Posted (edited)
30 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

the victims didn't go to Starocci's girlfriend, they went to bartletts girl. this smells fishy. seems like bartlett might just be married to a complete psychopath. I bet she is the one who called the newspaper as well. 

If he took a minor to the team sauna (should be easy to prove)  that ought to be enough for heads to roll given Penn St history much less all the other stuff ... gee! 

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Posted
59 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

 she is a real crime stopper!!!

So, you either haven't heard or don't believe the reports that victims of sexual assault are really reluctant to tell their stories to the authorities. 

 

Posted
42 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

the victims didn't go to Starocci's girlfriend, they went to bartletts girl. this smells fishy. seems like bartlett might just be married to a complete psychopath. I bet she is the one who called the newspaper as well. 

they were her friends that's how he met them

Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, jackwebster said:

I've never had an opinion about this guy, but what a tone deaf tweet. 

Am I moron for assuming they’re running different sessions and not going to be all together

Meant to quote the original tweet, not helping my case

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Posted
32 minutes ago, jackwebster said:

So, you either haven't heard or don't believe the reports that victims of sexual assault are really reluctant to tell their stories to the authorities. 

 

yet she had no problem telling the school newspaper LOL come on bro, this is clearly not what its being made out to be. 

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Is it possible Carter was "hiding" the stuff, playing a prank?

That the women involved gave conflicting signals or later decide something happened?

We won't know reality with this.

” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”.

Posted
1 minute ago, WrestlingRash said:

yet she had no problem telling the school newspaper LOL come on bro, this is clearly not what its being made out to be. 

Anonymously, which you can't really do in a criminal case  What a weird hill to die on.  Did Carter's mom make a burner account on here, too?

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Posted
2 hours ago, Le duke said:

Seems to me that it WAS reported. That's how they got the security camera footage, and as a result, why Kasak was interviewed by police, remember?

 

He also poo pooed what could Cale do about rape rumors.   Soooooo.   That.  

Posted
1 minute ago, WrestlingRash said:

yet she had no problem telling the school newspaper LOL come on bro, this is clearly not what its being made out to be. 

we don't know if she had a problem or not. we also don't know the reasons for her initial silence. we also don't know about the pressures she was under to break the silence. we don't and can't know a lot about this stuff. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Dogbone said:

Holy cow.  I get fanboys trying to spin everything in their teams favor, but Beau , a multi time AA, put his name out there and said I reported these things to coach and nothing happened.   Not an anonymous source or a room guy with an axe to grind. 

It doesn't mean there was a crime provable beyond all reasonable doubt; however, a serious contributor to PSU success has put his name and quotes behind it.   That, in and of itself, tells me this is not a "nothing burger" 

They bashed his wife (and Beau) all over social media too.  Some psu fans are pretty trashy.  

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