Bo Bachelor round 2

[flyingcement]

 

[Hammerlock3]

1 minute ago, flyingcement said:

 

the only wrestling media account worth looking at....literally

[Dark Energy]

Not a good loo for Bo or Iowa.  Curious what drove this.  Experience with Iowa or seeing what the experience of non-Iowa recruits is.  
 

I’m not 13 years old … but that said, I don’t expect to root much for this guy.  Jax, Blaze, and other guys seem a lot less narcissistic.  

[Hammerlock3]

2 minutes ago, Dark Energy said:

Not a good loo for Bo or Iowa.  Curious what drove this.  Experience with Iowa or seeing what the experience of non-Iowa recruits is.  
 

I’m not 13 years old … but that said, I don’t expect to root much for this guy.  Jax, Blaze, and other guys seem a lot less narcissistic.  

I have to echo the sentiment...i don't think there is any doubt that he has the Bo Nickal disease and starts fidgeting the second no one is paying attention.

[GlassPrison]

Legitimate question, why does it bother any of you guys?  If the answer is because you’re Iowa fans, I get it.  But let’s not pretend like we all had it figured out at 18.  And sure it’s not great for the sport to commit and flip.   But he should be worried about what’s right for him at 18, not the sport.  IF he has a question about Iowa’s culture and if that’s the right place for him, his development, and his EDUCATION, than he would be short-changing himself not to make a change.  At the end of the day, this is a kid (or young man, if you really want to get technical).  Let him work out what’s best for him.

Unfortunately, there’s a social media and promotional component, but that’s the sad state of current affairs.  Cut away the fat, and this is a kid just working out what’s best for his development and growth as an athlete and person.

[HokieDave87]

10 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

its not good for the sport, anymore than Ferrari being an idiot does. Its like Flo, it farms within, doesn't grow a thing. 

Fair point, but hard to argue that it isn't good for him personally

[alex1fly]

11 minutes ago, GlassPrison said:

Legitimate question, why does it bother any of you guys?  If the answer is because you’re Iowa fans, I get it.  But let’s not pretend like we all had it figured out at 18.  And sure it’s not great for the sport to commit and flip.   But he should be worried about what’s right for him at 18, not the sport.  IF he has a question about Iowa’s culture and if that’s the right place for him, his development, and his EDUCATION, than he would be short-changing himself not to make a change.  At the end of the day, this is a kid (or young man, if you really want to get technical).  Let him work out what’s best for him.

Unfortunately, there’s a social media and promotional component, but that’s the sad state of current affairs.  Cut away the fat, and this is a kid just working out what’s best for his development and growth as an athlete and person.

Well said. Kid committed and had regrets. That’s fine. “Bad for the sport” is an overreaction. 

[1032004]

1 hour ago, GlassPrison said:

Definitely not.  1) the kid is a kid.  2) he’s working out the best place for him during the most pivotal point of his life.  3) even if I don’t like the histrionics of social media, he’s been able to build something for himself already.  Let him do his thing.

I think the point is he already “did his thing.”  Started out with 70 schools or whatever and “wanted to take his time.”  And now he’s changing his mind before he even starts his senior year of high school.  I defended him before, but this isn’t really a great look IMO, unless something happened behind the scenes that we don’t know about.

One of my main questions is…how exaggerated was the $5 million claims that were out there?  And if they weren’t that exaggerated, how close is another school getting to that number?

 

[Hammerlock3]

31 minutes ago, GlassPrison said:

Legitimate question, why does it bother any of you guys?  If the answer is because you’re Iowa fans, I get it.  But let’s not pretend like we all had it figured out at 18.  And sure it’s not great for the sport to commit and flip.   But he should be worried about what’s right for him at 18, not the sport.  IF he has a question about Iowa’s culture and if that’s the right place for him, his development, and his EDUCATION, than he would be short-changing himself not to make a change.  At the end of the day, this is a kid (or young man, if you really want to get technical).  Let him work out what’s best for him.

Unfortunately, there’s a social media and promotional component, but that’s the sad state of current affairs.  Cut away the fat, and this is a kid just working out what’s best for his development and growth as an athlete and person.

no you're just making things up. you still haven't told me when he's old enough to be a legitimate target for criticism. 

[GlassPrison]

3 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I think the point is he already “did his thing.”  Started out with 70 schools or whatever and “wanted to take his time.”  And now he’s changing his mind before he even starts his senior year of high school.  I defended him before, but this isn’t really a great look IMO, unless something happened behind the scenes that we don’t know about.

One of my main questions is…how exaggerated was the $5 million claims that were out there?  And if they weren’t that exaggerated, how close is another school getting to that number?

 

I think there’s a couple questions related to what you’ve mentioned here:

1. Why did he change his mind?

2. What’s the financial implications?

From my perspective, question 1 is irrelevant.  He needs to decide what’s right for him and the answer is really just for my understanding.  I’d love to know, but won’t question his decision based on any outcome.

Question 2 is fully speculative.  That $5mm number seems outlandish to me, but does it really matter?  There’s a lot fluctuating now with compensation.  Regardless of the numbers, I don’t blame the student athlete for shooting for the optimal payday.  There’s no real professional outlet after college.  They should get as much as possible.  It’s a fair question to ask WHO can play on the same field, but once again - for our understanding of the marketplace, and not any indictment on Bo’s commitment.

[VakAttack]

48 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

 

Wonder what caused God to change his recommendation.

[flyingcement]

2 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Wonder what caused God to change his recommendation.

I'm thinking that God was bribed with cold hard cash 

[tommygun]

God is always asking for cash so that tracks.  

[flyingcement]

Just now, tommygun said:

God is always asking for cash so that tracks.  

excellent first post 

 

welcome

[HokieDave87]

25 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I think the point is he already “did his thing.”  Started out with 70 schools or whatever and “wanted to take his time.”  And now he’s changing his mind before he even starts his senior year of high school.  I defended him before, but this isn’t really a great look IMO, unless something happened behind the scenes that we don’t know about.

One of my main questions is…how exaggerated was the $5 million claims that were out there?  And if they weren’t that exaggerated, how close is another school getting to that number?

 

He didn't really do anything new IMO. His original commitment process was always silly, this just shows exactly why but I think we all already acknowledged it was a weird move. No need to re-visit that. Just because he originally committed in a weird way doesn't mean he shouldn't be able to change if he has second thoughts. Miller immediately removing Iowa makes me think something behind the scenes may have happened as well. Chittum's on school 5 but nobody seems to care. If it wasn't Bassett this would be a non-story.

[bnwtwg]

54 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

the only wrestling media account worth looking at....literally

Sokobuw

Kozak

Reattack

Vecchiomania

Salty Walk-On

Swayz

WBP

Pelikanhead

Tsabolov Brands

Rhino because his facts run counter to xitter philosophy 

 

[scourge165]

3 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Ok State

Ok State doesn't actually make much sense. Penn State...THAT does. He'll be a 149 probably. He's a Sr this year. SVN will be a Jr with 1 more year. He takes a RS and slides into the lineup. 

OK State is stacked with recruits from '33-'74 in particular. 

BUT, with Jax, maybe he wants to make Stillwater Bishop McCourt 2.0. 

 

God knows Penn State has convinced kids, 'if you're really that good, don't worry about who is already here.' Maybe Taylor is doing the same. 

 

3 hours ago, Rassling2 said:

Now that’s great news! I never felt that was a smart move in the first place. Any parent of a kid this talented should never even consider Iowa until current leadership is no more. Tom and Terry imo need to go. 

I'm not going to make a judgement on the Brands because... that's tired.

I AM however going to remind people what Askren said about Iowa. How you'd be stupid to go to Iowa straight out of HS, how you get more money going to another school, then transferring as an AA. You get more money(I think he brought up Ayala). 

I don't know if that's true, he does seem to not love Iowa, but he also knows more about the recruiting process than I having gone through it with so many Wrestlers. Or...at least having so many former Wrestlers communicating with him. 

[Hammerlock3]

3 minutes ago, bnwtwg said:

Sokobuw

Kozak

Reattack

Vecchiomania

Salty Walk-On

Swayz

WBP

Pelikanhead

Tsabolov Brands

Rhino because his facts run counter to xitter philosophy 

 

some of those I have muted, but about a third I have not seen so i'll be open minded.

Edited 8 hours ago by Hammerlock3

[GlassPrison]

13 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

no you're just making things up. you still haven't told me when he's old enough to be a legitimate target for criticism. 

You’re welcome to criticize.  I have no issue with that.  I just believe he should make whatever decision is right for him.  

[Hammerlock3]

Just now, GlassPrison said:

You’re welcome to criticize.  I have no issue with that.  I just believe he should make whatever decision is right for him.  

yeah you have no problem you just insist on framing me as a bully and falling back on your intrepid believe that people shouldn't self victimize as your justification. 

[GlassPrison]

3 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

yeah you have no problem you just insist on framing me as a bully and falling back on your intrepid believe that people shouldn't self victimize as your justification. 

You asked if the kid was an attention whore.  You’re free to your opinion.  I’m free to believe that you are sensationalizing the issue.

[scourge165]

1 hour ago, Hammerlock3 said:

when does it become ok? Isn't he 18?

Why are you so eager to be able to trash an 18-year-old kid?

For... using social media to increase his profile which...invariably leads to more money?

 

Also good for the sport, but if you really need to, it's a free country. You can trash the kid whenever you feel like it. Might be wise to hear why he decided to leave before you do, but again, that's on you. 

[Hammerlock3]

1 minute ago, GlassPrison said:

You asked if the kid was an attention whore.  You’re free to your opinion.  I’m free to believe that you are sensationalizing the issue.

yeah fair enough. my previous post was too dramatic upon re-reading.

[Hammerlock3]

1 minute ago, scourge165 said:

Why are you so eager to be able to trash an 18-year-old kid?

For... using social media to increase his profile which...invariably leads to more money?

 

Also good for the sport, but if you really need to, it's a free country. You can trash the kid whenever you feel like it. Might be wise to hear why he decided to leave before you do, but again, that's on you. 

this post is stupid

[GlassPrison]

4 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

yeah fair enough. my previous post was too dramatic upon re-reading.

Appreciate the reasonableness.  I’m not trying to argue   I don’t like the current state of social media, NIL, comp, etc.  BUT I’m also a coach at heart and want every kid to find the right place for them.