Is PJ Duke redshirting next year? Why?

[JimmyCinnabon]

20 minutes ago, Caveira said:

It’s not repeating 8th grade.  That is only true if they were academically deficient.   It’s skipping it to gain an advantage over the other kids.  
 

don’t be obtuse.  You know it’s skipping and not repeating.   Repeating is doing it twice.   Not do it one time and the other time playing video games.  

Even repeating or skipping 8th grade to in an attempt to give you an advantage in sports is still an insanely low bar for being morally bankrupt. Even if you play video games.

Edited Tuesday at 06:13 PM by JimmyCinnabon

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, JimmyCinnabon said:

Even repeating or skipping 8th grade to in an attempt to give you an advantage in sports is still an insanely low bar for being morally bankrupt. Even if you play video games.

Agree to disagree.  But whatever.   A lot of kids do it.   Too many imo.  
 

I won’t be changing my mind any time soon on this.  It’s legal… but boarder line  cheating.

[JimmyCinnabon]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

Agree to disagree.  But whatever.   A lot of kids do it.   Too many imo.  
 

I won’t be changing my mind any time soon on this.  It’s legal… but boarder line  cheating.

How do you feel about people who don't return their cart to the cart area of supermarkets? The ones that just leave it by their parking spot.

[Caveira]

Just now, JimmyCinnabon said:

How do you feel about people who don't return their cart to the cart area of supermarkets? The ones that just leave it by their parking spot.

Those guys are diks

[JimmyCinnabon]

Just now, Caveira said:

Those guys are diks

I HATE them.

[Caveira]

Just now, JimmyCinnabon said:

I HATE them.

Fair.  Common ground.  Those carts blow around in the wind or slide down small hills and ding other cars.   Lazy farks

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

46 minutes ago, Caveira said:

It’s morally bankrupt.   All of the kids doing it are morally bankrupt not just the one that played vids.   It’s prolly more on the parents though… a 12/13 year old really shouldn’t be making those decisions.  

How do you feel about the fact that Bo Bassett will be 20 years old when he starts his career at Iowa?

[manatree]

36 minutes ago, JimmyCinnabon said:

How do you feel about people who don't return their cart to the cart area of supermarkets? The ones that just leave it by their parking spot.

When I am King of the World, that will be a flogging offense.

[cowcards]

40 minutes ago, JimmyCinnabon said:

How do you feel about people who don't return their cart to the cart area of supermarkets? The ones that just leave it by their parking spot.

What if I told you that unless there is bad weather, a lot of workers actually like the carts scattered about because it allows them to be outside for a while and get exercise?

[BruceyB]

1 hour ago, Caveira said:

It’s morally bankrupt.   All of the kids doing it are morally bankrupt not just the one that played vids.   It’s prolly more on the parents though… a 12/13 year old really shouldn’t be making those decisions.  

[BruceyB]

2 hours ago, The Kid said:

Especially if you're considered the best program in the country.

They redshirted Retherford after he wrestled as a true freshman.  Because he was never going to beat Stieber again.

Weak stuff.  Barr as a 21 year old freshman?  lol

 

Barr is 21 as a RS freshman. Most redshirt freshman are 20. Oh no, he's a year older than normal for his grade.

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

1 hour ago, BruceyB said:

Barr is 21 as a RS freshman. Most redshirt freshman are 20. Oh no, he's a year older than normal for his grade.

Older than his junior teammate Haines.  That's an interesting fact.

[Eagle26]

4 hours ago, The Kid said:

Modified schedule at psu?  Yeah ok.

I’m not sure what you are getting at here? Why would that not be a possibility?

[BruceyB]

34 minutes ago, Eagle26 said:

I’m not sure what you are getting at here? Why would that not be a possibility?

PSU athletes wrestle 20 matches a year without a modified schedule.. One would think a modified schedule would be easiest to make happen at PSU. @The Kid just can't help but find a way to have a cynical opinion about any and every topic.

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, BruceyB said:

PSU athletes wrestle 20 matches a year without a modified schedule.. One would think a modified schedule would be easiest to make happen at PSU. @The Kid just can't help but find a way to have a cynical opinion about any and every topic.

Modified schedule = find the biggest tomato can pre-big opponents….. and skip all tourneys.    

[Wrestleknownothing]

6 hours ago, The Kid said:

Why did the phenomenal Retherford redshirt?  To help the team?  Or his ego?

Same with Nico redshiring in his junior year to avoid Delgado. lol

Why so angry, kid? 

Edited Tuesday at 11:49 PM by Wrestleknownothing

[Coastal]

54 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Modified schedule = find the biggest tomato can pre-big opponents….. and skip all tourneys.    

There's nothing wrong with scheduling small time programs like Buffalo or Iowa.   Those irrelevant programs need a boost.

[Cowboy08]

On 6/16/2025 at 2:36 PM, BruceyB said:

Name one wrestler that graduated high school at 21. You're exaggerating what is taking place in high school sports. Bo Bassett is the most criticized hold-back and he will be 19 when he graduates high school, and turn 20 in August as he begins his true freshman year. He is one year older than typical for his grade. People create way too much drama around a kid being a year old for his grade. Who cares. Once you get to college you have guys in the 6th and 7th years now with RS, Olympic RS, free medical RS. Being 1 year older than your peers entering college has literally never mattered less than it does now.

I don't have a dog in the fight and don't even really care but you are manipulating the numbers.  High school seniors graduate at 17 or 18, not turning 19 that summer if they were never held back.  If he is a 20 year old freshman, Bo is 2 years older than the HS kids he has been wrestling 

[AgaveMaria]

On 6/17/2025 at 1:19 PM, JimmyCinnabon said:

How do you feel about people who don't return their cart to the cart area of supermarkets? The ones that just leave it by their parking spot.

Just helping keep the jobs of the guys & girls who are paid to get the carts back in the store. They get to work outside, not cooped up in a noisy & crowded store. Much better job than being stuck inside all your shift.

 

[BruceyB]

5 hours ago, Cowboy08 said:

I don't have a dog in the fight and don't even really care but you are manipulating the numbers.  High school seniors graduate at 17 or 18, not turning 19 that summer if they were never held back.  If he is a 20 year old freshman, Bo is 2 years older than the HS kids he has been wrestling 

This just isn't true. My birthday is in mid-September, my cousin's birthday is August 30th. I started kindergarten in 1996, and he started kindergarten in 1995 because he turned 5 before the school year started. He was among the youngest in his grade and I was the among the oldest. Summer birthdays (like Bo has) make things more ambiguous when it comes to the proper start year.

You're saying that my cousin would be a "hold-back" if he started kindergarten the same year as me despite us being two-weeks apart in age? Bo is 1 year and 1 month older than what would be considered a normal high school age. If he was born in September, then he would be a traditional 1 year hold back that just happened to be old for his grade.

[BruceyB]

4 hours ago, AgaveMaria said:

Just helping keep the jobs of the guys & girls who are paid to get the carts back in the store. They get to work outside, not cooped up in a noisy & crowded store. Much better job than being stuck inside all your shift.

 

As someone who has wrangled carts in his life, I didn't mind it. It gave me something to do, I got to get outside, and it changed the pace. But do not lie to yourself and act like you're doing anyone a service by being lazy and self serving by ditching your cart wherever is convenient for yourself. It's not something that would ruin my day, but every time I grabbed a cart from somewhere it didn't belong, I thought the person who left it there was a lazy a**hole. 

You know that old adage; grocery carts are the greatest litmus test of whether people are capable of self-governing. Everyone knows the correct thing to do, and there is no penalty if you choose to break the societal rule. You can convince yourself of whatever justification for breaking the rule you want, you're still breaking the rule because you're a lazy a**hole.

[ionel]

49 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

You know that old adage; grocery carts are the greatest litmus test of whether people are capable of self-governing. Everyone knows the correct thing to do, and there is no penalty if you choose to break the societal rule. You can convince yourself of whatever justification for breaking the rule you want, you're still breaking the rule because you're a lazy a**hole.

There should be video review.  We all know there are cameras in the parking lot.

[scourge165]

On 6/17/2025 at 12:28 PM, Caveira said:

You saying doing 8th grade twice on purpose to grow and get better (and play vids all day) so you have an advantage over people who didn’t ….. isn’t morally bankrupt?

How did Bassett become such an old Jr?

 

And that's SO pathetic. An 8th grade kid...so you're ~13 when you make the decision(so it's NOT your decision) and you're "morally bankrupt?"

You hurt a kid, you're morally bankrupt, you scam people, you steal money, you're morally bankrupt. You are a small 8th grader and you re-do 8th grade PURELY for athletic reason and it sure as hell does NOT mean you're "morally bankrupt." 

[Caveira]

2 hours ago, scourge165 said:

How did Bassett become such an old Jr?

 

And that's SO pathetic. An 8th grade kid...so you're ~13 when you make the decision(so it's NOT your decision) and you're "morally bankrupt?"

You hurt a kid, you're morally bankrupt, you scam people, you steal money, you're morally bankrupt. You are a small 8th grader and you re-do 8th grade PURELY for athletic reason and it sure as hell does NOT mean you're "morally bankrupt." 

Yep.  It is. 

[NYupstate]

Is it also morally bankrupt to hold a boy back in elementary school to allow for cognitive and emotional development? The data are very clear being "old" for the grade results in better academic success. 

I don't see how holding back for athletics is any different than holding back for academics, and many, many parents choose to slow their boy's passage through elementary school for academic reasons. Heck, there is a movement afoot to make it standard practice to start boys a year later than girls.

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