Some more negative publicity

[okokzach]

8 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said:

It’s against Jim Jordan and the gop in general,not much about the wrestling and it’s very political..basically to the random non wrestler watching you’ll think JJ was the real bad guy not Strauss 

I think JJ is a clown and not very serious person , but he didn’t physically hurt anyone so I think this more hit piece then informative 

44 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

I went to school with someone that’s been working on it 

 

that's interesting because the press release doesn't mention Jordan at all and it says it's based on this SI article, which is quite lengthy and barely mentions Jordan and only near the end of the article. The trailer doesn't mention Jordan either.

[Antitroll2828]

15 minutes ago, okokzach said:

 

that's interesting because the press release doesn't mention Jordan at all and it says it's based on this SI article, which is quite lengthy and barely mentions Jordan and only near the end of the article. The trailer doesn't mention Jordan either.

Interesting I saw a brief hbo write up about it and I believe they mention him in the first sentence 

Edited June 10 by Antitroll2828

[pokemonster]

15 minutes ago, okokzach said:

 

that's interesting because the press release doesn't mention Jordan at all and it says it's based on this SI article, which is quite lengthy and barely mentions Jordan and only near the end of the article. The trailer doesn't mention Jordan either.

Looks like a high quality production. As a buckeye, it’s a bad look, but people owning up to it is important.  Not sure if it’s OSU or the individuals that are defending tooth and nail against the victims. 

[ionel]

36 minutes ago, okokzach said:

 

that's interesting because the press release doesn't mention Jordan at all and it says it's based on this SI article, which is quite lengthy and barely mentions Jordan and only near the end of the article. The trailer doesn't mention Jordan either.

Do you think George Clooney is not going to mention Jim Jordon? 

[okokzach]

1 minute ago, ionel said:

Do you think George Clooney is not going to mention Jim Jordon? 

I think he'll definitely be mentioned and should be as at least one of the victims said that he reported it to Jordan and Jordan blew him off.

I am however very skeptical of the claim that the film is a political "hit piece" that will make you think Jordan "was the real bad guy not Strauss" as Antitroll claimed... 

[Antitroll2828]

42 minutes ago, okokzach said:

I think he'll definitely be mentioned and should be as at least one of the victims said that he reported it to Jordan and Jordan blew him off.

I am however very skeptical of the claim that the film is a political "hit piece" that will make you think Jordan "was the real bad guy not Strauss" as Antitroll claimed... 

don’t shoot the messenger I haven’t seen it yet lol as I mentioned above I think JJ is a clown I hope it doesn’t  just focus on him blowing off the allegations because of a lot of people need to be called out for dropping the ball and letting this guy operate for a long time 

[okokzach]

21 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

don’t shoot the messenger I haven’t seen it yet lol as I mentioned above I think JJ is a clown I hope it doesn’t  just focus on him blowing off the allegations because of a lot of people need to be called out for dropping the ball and letting this guy operate for a long time 

no shots, just skepticism. holstered for now lol

[Hammerlock3]

4 hours ago, pokemonster said:

I don’t have any inside information but from what I’ve seen from the reports, this dude was well known to have been fondling and doing unnecessary prostate exams and such for every physical and things as simple as common colds and cauliflower ear. He wouldn’t clear the athletes unless he got to perform his 30 minute disgusting skin checks and such. He showered with the teams multiple times a day and HIS LOCKER WAS RIGHT NEXT TO JIM JORDANS. He would take athlete’s photos at his home under the guise of “studies”. His behavior was just tolerated by them. There’s a quote that Jim Jordan said “I’ll effing kill you if you try anything with me” or something along those lines. The fencing coach openly tried to report this dude for years and got nowhere. Speculation is that this Strauss guy was tolerated bc he took the crappy office in Larkins Hall and did the events none of the other doctors on staff wanted. 

so by prostate exam you mean like digital rape?

[1032004]

1 hour ago, okokzach said:

I think he'll definitely be mentioned and should be as at least one of the victims said that he reported it to Jordan and Jordan blew him off.

I mentioned earlier but I don’t think the claim was he blew him off at the time.  He blew him off 5 years ago or whenever that was when it came to light 

[billyhoyle]

The only surprising thing here is that the documentary wasn't made sooner. Every major sex abuse scandal ends up with a documentary.

 

11 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I mentioned earlier but I don’t think the claim was he blew him off at the time.  He blew him off 5 years ago or whenever that was when it came to light 

I don't recall anyone accusing Jordan of that.

Edited June 11 by billyhoyle

[pokemonster]

51 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

so by prostate exam you mean like digital rape?

The report paid for by Ohio state reported at least 47 instances that were categorized as rape, a lot of them being as you described. They suspect a lot more than that occurred. 

[okokzach]

57 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I mentioned earlier but I don’t think the claim was he blew him off at the time.  He blew him off 5 years ago or whenever that was when it came to light 

According to this news story, it was reported immediately. About halfway through: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3RT6CynVZc

 

"Fred Feeney is the referee who says he was groped and sexually harassed in the shower by Strauss and immediately he reported it to coaches Russ Hellickson and Jim Jordan, and Jordan said, "That's just Strauss."

[1032004]

3 minutes ago, okokzach said:

According to this news story, it was reported immediately. About halfway through: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3RT6CynVZc

 

"Fred Feeney is the referee who says he was groped and sexually harassed in the shower by Strauss and immediately he reported it to coaches Russ Hellickson and Jim Jordan, and Jordan said, "That's just Strauss."

Thanks, hadn’t seen that one.  He even groped referees?!?

[MPhillips]

1 hour ago, 1032004 said:

Thanks, hadn’t seen that one.  He even groped referees?!?

https://nwhof.org/hall_of_fame/bio/16353

[1032004]

5 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

https://nwhof.org/hall_of_fame/bio/16353

Sounds like a good dude.  Especially the part about moderating popular wrestling forums 

[pokemonster]

20 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Thanks, hadn’t seen that one.  He even groped referees?!?

Strauss also worked the Ohio high school (and maybe grade school) state tournaments for decades performing skin checks and medical care... 

[1032004]

On 6/10/2025 at 8:26 AM, Antitroll2828 said:

It’s against Jim Jordan and the gop in general,not much about the wrestling and it’s very political..basically to the random non wrestler watching you’ll think JJ was the real bad guy not Strauss 

I think JJ is a clown and not very serious person , but he didn’t physically hurt anyone so I think this more hit piece then informative 

Just watched.

(spoiler)
I wouldn’t say it was “very political.” Politics weren’t mentioned until the last 25 minutes or so, and only about Jordan, I don’t think there was anything about the “GOP in general.”

Towards the end was definitely anti-Jordan, but it was based on the stories of the multiple wrestlers (and referee) that were interviewed.   They said Hellickson had told them he would support them, but then ghosted them, and they blamed Jordan for that, since they said Jordan also called them asking them to publicly support himself.  But I think the bigger “hit piece” was more against Ohio State, rightfully so.

Jordan was of course also mentioned earlier in the doc, but usually in conjunction with Hellickson.  There was definitely the implication earlier on that they blew off allegations at the time.  Which then was contrasted to the female fencing coach actually making complaints.

One thing I don’t recall reading about previously was the steroid allegations.

I thought the story of Dan Ritchie, as well as the hockey player were particularly sad.

[flyingcement]

2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Just watched.

(spoiler)
I wouldn’t say it was “very political.” Politics weren’t mentioned until the last 25 minutes or so, and only about Jordan, I don’t think there was anything about the “GOP in general.”

Towards the end was definitely anti-Jordan, but it was based on the stories of the multiple wrestlers (and referee) that were interviewed.   They said Hellickson had told them he would support them, but then ghosted them, and they blamed Jordan for that, since they said Jordan also called them asking them to publicly support himself.  But I think the bigger “hit piece” was more against Ohio State, rightfully so.

Jordan was of course also mentioned earlier in the doc, but usually in conjunction with Hellickson.  There was definitely the implication earlier on that they blew off allegations at the time.  Which then was contrasted to the female fencing coach actually making complaints.

One thing I don’t recall reading about previously was the steroid allegations.

I thought the story of Dan Ritchie, as well as the hockey player were particularly sad.

watched it tonight.  incredibly sad.  not for the light of heart.

[H82Lose]

That was tough to watch, Strauss's boss was an A hole too. 

[MPhillips]

JJ ignoring the people whom he's supposed to be helping...

[H82Lose]

2 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

JJ ignoring the people whom he's supposed to be helping...

I think he got so far down the hill, he could not turn around and admit he knew.  I liked JJ, but man this is really a bad look for him 

[MPhillips]

Just now, H82Lose said:

I think he got so far down the hill, he could not turn around and admit he knew.  I liked JJ, but man this is really a bad look for him 

I watched Jim and Jeff both win their fourth state title. They were big deals to us. Politically he's turned out be the same disappointment as he was as a coach...

[H82Lose]

3 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

I watched Jim and Jeff both win their fourth state title. They were big deals to us. Politically he's turned out be the same disappointment as he was as a coach...

Like I said, I like his political side, but now I feel dirty liking him after watching that last night.  I mean, that is the lowest of low IMO. They were just kids.  Strauss's boss writing the letter and making that other guy feel like a liar is whole life, is another travesty.  That whole show was tough to watch. The hockey player, geezzuus that was rough to listen to. 

[1032004]

So has Hellickson never said much more?  I am curious how much Jordan may have been involved in his silence.  To be fair, if Jordan said something like “if you admit you knew then you’re going down too,” which probably wouldn’t be wrong.

Edit: But it was sad how multiple guys felt Hellickson in particular was a father figure to him and then felt betrayed 

Edited yesterday at 01:04 PM by 1032004

[fishbane]

On 6/9/2025 at 11:32 PM, SocraTease said:

The link below contains the trailer to the documentary, which for some reason doesn't mention the living stain on earth, Gym Jordan, a liar, con man, and complicit abuser still at large and doing all sorts of damage in Congress because his district is gerrymandered like a jigsaw puzzle piece to keep him in power.

https://press.wbd.com/na/media-release/hbo-original-documentary-surviving-ohio-state-debuts-june-17

 

That is not his district anymore.  It changed for the 2022 election.  Now it has a more reasonable shape.  Setting that aside I doubt it was ever gerrymandered to keep him in power.  Gerrymandering done most effectively will typically try and put likely voters for the opposing party in a few "safe" districts and divide the rest of the state such that they are close, but with an edge for the party drawing the lines. 

It wouldn't make sense for Republicans to draw the lines to give Jordan a better chance of winning.  Jordan has won every election by at least ~20% points over his Dem rival.  It would make more sense for Republicans to draw his district in a convoluted way to include more likely Democratic voters so he only wins by 5-10% and the Republicans can make one of the 5 seats held by Democrats more competitive. The last election (2020) under the old districts Republicans had a 12-4 majority.  Currently they only have a 10-5 majority.  So it is ostensibly less gerrymandered in favour of republicans and Jordan is still winning by 35-40 points.  Republicans would have been the ones drawing the lines in both 2011 and 2021.