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Posted
1 minute ago, Boring said:

I don't know if that'll work. Do they lock up and push in swimming? 

That's my point ... Brands can coach Phelps to a 1pt push stall point ... ain't gonna work in swimming.  

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Posted
7 minutes ago, ionel said:

That's my point ... Brands can coach Phelps to a 1pt push stall point ... ain't gonna work in swimming.  

It might work pretty well, as long as they push their opponent under the water. 

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11 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

This got me thinking about the ways that Gary Hall Jr. and I are complete opposites.

  • Hall Jr.'s father and grandfather were world class swimmers, too. I do not every recall seeing my father in a pool, and my grandfather was a coal miner. While he passed before I was born, I just can't imagine him in a pool either.
  • Hall Jr. was a drop dead sprinter. World class at 100m and under. Never saw a 101st meter. I was a distance swimmer's distance swimmer. It took me 500m just to get going.
  • Hall Jr. medaled in three Olympics. I once qualified for a lone Olympic Trials. So, I'm real close on this one.
  • At 218 lbs. Hall Jr. needed 6'6" to carry that weight. Very inefficient. I get within a biscuit of that while only using 5'10".

 

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5 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

This got me thinking about the ways that Gary Hall Jr. and I are complete opposites.

  • Hall Jr.'s father and grandfather were world class swimmers, too. I do not every recall seeing my father in a pool, and my grandfather was a coal miner. While he passed before I was born, I just can't imagine him in a pool either.
  • Hall Jr. was a drop dead sprinter. World class at 100m and under. Never saw a 101st meter. I was a distance swimmer's distance swimmer. It took me 500m just to get going.
  • Hall Jr. medaled in three Olympics. I once qualified for a lone Olympic Trials. So, I'm real close on this one.
  • At 218 lbs. Hall Jr. needed 6'6" to carry that weight. Very inefficient. I get within a biscuit of that while only using 5'10".

 

@ionel got my lyrics for a masterpiece.  stay tuned

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Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Yes!

Maybe @nhs67 will work on the Wkn pic for the album cover.

I know there's a whole album of Wkn material.  🎶 

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

It seems like those are examples of guys who faught their body type to get close to the top, but not THE top.

Mark Branch went 1-2-2-1 @ the NCAA's?????  He actually went into the NCAA's his freshman year with a losing record.

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Just now, Fadzaev2 said:

Mark Branch went 1-2-2-1 @ the NCAA's?????

I knew that when I responded, and debated whether to qualify my statement, or not (3 out of 4). I decided to not qualify, but am torn. The tie breaker for me was I could not find any international achievements for Branch. This is certainly not a hill I would choose to die on, more of a hair split on what constitutes THE top.

As an aside, I love that his bio on the Wyoming website barely even mentions that he wrestled. There is paragraph after paragraph about the athletes he coached and coaching achievements, but only a few sentences about his wrestling.

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18 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

I knew that when I responded, and debated whether to qualify my statement, or not (3 out of 4). I decided to not qualify, but am torn. The tie breaker for me was I could not find any international achievements for Branch. This is certainly not a hill I would choose to die on, more of a hair split on what constitutes THE top.

As an aside, I love that his bio on the Wyoming website barely even mentions that he wrestled. There is paragraph after paragraph about the athletes he coached and coaching achievements, but only a few sentences about his wrestling.

To your original question about what would be the ideal wrestling body type, I think it's pretty evident being long and lanky is not ideal. And I would say much less ideal in freestyle than in folk where the long guys usually thrive on top. Likewise, Chance is a true anomaly with his body type. I never believed he would be legitimately competitive at 86kg at 5'7". 

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