weird

[wrestlingguy]

30 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

This is true of almost everybody on this forum. He just has the courage and self-awareness to admit it.

Crazy idea: if you spend your entire life being bombed by a country and having loved ones die over and over again, you probably would be pretty easy to radicalize against that country. It's just a fact of life.

Republicans were talking about "civil war" if their favorite TV character didn't win the election. Imagine if they had to endure any real hardship or violence like the Palestinians. We'd have MAGA suicide bombers.

 

Another crazy idea. You can sympathize with Palestinians and not the Hamas terrorists that carried out the attack on October 7th, 2023 that killed innocent people. 

I don't think there would be any "MAGA" suicide bombers. Suicide bombers are mostly associated with radical Islam. As dumb as you may think "MAGA" is, they still aren't stupid enough to think that if they suicide bomb they will be greeted by 100 virgins in the afterlife.

[Caveira]

5 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

You have to make a choice: do you believe in free enterprise or not? Harvard is a private institution welcome to use their money how they want - including "marxist" research. That's capitalism!

You don't understand the world you live in at all.

As a private institution Are they welcome to tax exempt status or federal funding then.  ???

Edited April 16 by Caveira

[Scouts Honor]

On 4/15/2025 at 7:35 AM, Scouts Honor said:

jews stopped by supporters of hamas 

it's all in the other thread

or even just do a quick google search

 

[jross]

On 4/14/2025 at 8:58 PM, red viking said:

Elaborate "shutting down."

 

Deplatforming attempts include attempts to disinvite speakers from campus speeches or commencement ceremonies; to cancel performances of concerts, plays, or the screenings of movies; or to have controversial artwork removed from public display. An attempt to disrupt a speech or performance that is in progress is also considered a deplatforming attempt, whether it succeeds or fails. Deplatforming attempts do not include criticisms of some form of expression and protests denouncing them that are not motivated by the goal of deplatforming the controversial expression. These are protected forms of speech that should be welcomed on educational campuses.

• https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/campus-deplatforming-database-methodology

 

Analysis of the data FIRE has collected reveals a clear political trend in the likelihood that a speaker will be targeted with a disinvitation effort. Speakers are far more likely to face disinvitation efforts from opponents to their political left than from those to their right. Since 2000, those behind the disinvitation efforts targeted speakers with views more conservative than their own nearly three times more frequently (97 attempts) than they targeted speakers with views more liberal than their own (36 attempts).

• https://www.thefire.org/news/blogs/eternally-radical-idea/new-report-push-against-campus-speakers-getting-more-intense

 

Here are hundreds of examples.

• https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/campus-deplatforming-database#campus-deplatforming/?view_44_page=21&view_44_sort=field_95|asc

 

Harvard - 6 standard deviations worse than the average school regarding free speech

• https://www.thefire.org/news/harvard-gets-worst-score-ever-fires-college-free-speech-rankings

[uncle bernard]

4 hours ago, Scouts Honor said:

 

They were blocking *all* students. You're either stupid or cynical.

[Gene Mills Fan]

4 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

They were blocking *all* students. You're either stupid or cynical.

so they were morally ok illegal protestors

[Caveira]

11 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

They were blocking *all* students. You're either stupid or cynical.

Does that make it better or worse?

[red viking]

16 minutes ago, jross said:

 

Deplatforming attempts include attempts to disinvite speakers from campus speeches or commencement ceremonies; to cancel performances of concerts, plays, or the screenings of movies; or to have controversial artwork removed from public display. An attempt to disrupt a speech or performance that is in progress is also considered a deplatforming attempt, whether it succeeds or fails. Deplatforming attempts do not include criticisms of some form of expression and protests denouncing them that are not motivated by the goal of deplatforming the controversial expression. These are protected forms of speech that should be welcomed on educational campuses.

• https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/campus-deplatforming-database-methodology

 

Analysis of the data FIRE has collected reveals a clear political trend in the likelihood that a speaker will be targeted with a disinvitation effort. Speakers are far more likely to face disinvitation efforts from opponents to their political left than from those to their right. Since 2000, those behind the disinvitation efforts targeted speakers with views more conservative than their own nearly three times more frequently (97 attempts) than they targeted speakers with views more liberal than their own (36 attempts).

• https://www.thefire.org/news/blogs/eternally-radical-idea/new-report-push-against-campus-speakers-getting-more-intense

 

Here are hundreds of examples.

• https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/campus-deplatforming-database#campus-deplatforming/?view_44_page=21&view_44_sort=field_95|asc

 

Harvard - 6 standard deviations worse than the average school regarding free speech

• https://www.thefire.org/news/harvard-gets-worst-score-ever-fires-college-free-speech-rankings

Makes sense 100% that most speakers at college are going to have views that more  closely coincide with those of liberals. Which is the party of conspiracies? Which is the party that most commonly disregards journal articles written by PhD researchers and professors, or what is taught in college classrooms? It's the right-wing whack jobs. Most of them don't even believe that man-made climate change is occurring. Many don't believe that the earth is more than a few thousand years old or that we evolved from much simpler organisms. Several don't even think the earth is round or we landed on the moon. Many believed that COVID wasn't even real. Many believe that vaccines cause autism, or that COVID vaccines alter your DNA (because it is mRNA-based. I could go on and on with the anti-scientific beliefs. 

The right is the party that decided to be anti-intellectual. The intellectuals didn't decide to be liberal. They landed there when the Republican party embraced whack-job beliefs and ideology. 

Edited 13 hours ago by red viking

[Caveira]

14 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

They were blocking *all* students. You're either stupid or cynical.

These people are super rational and level headed right?

"Last night, the use of virulent anti-Semitic slurs, including 'Kill the Jews,' crossed the line. We cannot tolerate this kind of hate on our campus." — 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna149653

[red viking]

2 minutes ago, Caveira said:

These people are super rational and level headed right?

"Last night, the use of virulent anti-Semitic slurs, including 'Kill the Jews,' crossed the line. We cannot tolerate this kind of hate on our campus." — 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna149653

This appears to be a single-person. You see, this is what the wingers do. They find one person being anti-semitic and then extrapolate that to much larger groups including colleges themselves, just because it occurred there. 

You can't make this whackadoodle stuff up. 

[Caveira]

5 minutes ago, red viking said:

This appears to be a single-person. You see, this is what the wingers do. They find one person being anti-semitic and then extrapolate that to much larger groups including colleges themselves, just because it occurred there. 

You can't make this whackadoodle stuff up. 

100 people were arrested 

 

classic pro terrorist answer.    Not enough kill the Jews yelling to peak your interest…. Especially given Palestine / Hamas main goal is to kill all of the Jews.  
 

your not a good person boss.   

Edited 13 hours ago by Caveira

[red viking]

18 minutes ago, Caveira said:

100 people were arrested 

 

classic pro terrorist answer.    Not enough kill the Jews yelling to peak your interest…. Especially given Palestine / Hamas main goal is to kill all of the Jews.  
 

your not a good person boss.   

This is exactly what I'm talking about. 100 people were arrested based upon slurs from probably one person. This is how pro-Israel radicalized we've become in this country. 

[jross]

37 minutes ago, red viking said:

33 minutes ago, red viking said:

This appears to be a single-person. You see, this is what the wingers do. They find one person being anti-semitic and then extrapolate that to much larger groups

 

Finding one person being weird and then extrapolate to much larger groups is your MO.  See post from 35 minutes ago.  

[red viking]

33 minutes ago, jross said:

Finding one person being weird and then extrapolate to much larger groups is your MO.  See post from 35 minutes ago.  

Not even close. Many wingers have these beliefs, and the percentages skyrocket when you just look at the core MAGA wingers themselves. Some of these are in the <50% category (e.g. flat earth theory, didn't land on the moon) but several are in the > or close to 50% category (e.g. election conspiracy, which I forgot to mention, denial of man-made climate change, young earth theory, etc). 

[mspart]

8 minutes ago, red viking said:

Not even close. Many wingers have these beliefs, and the percentages skyrocket when you just look at the core MAGA wingers themselves. Some of these are in the <50% category (e.g. flat earth theory, didn't land on the moon) but several are in the > or close to 50% category (e.g. election conspiracy, which I forgot to mention, denial of man-made climate change, young earth theory, etc). 

Factual statement hunt
 

Many wingers have these beliefs, and the percentages skyrocket when you just look at the core MAGA wingers themselves.    Opinion only.   The term "many wingers"  makes this clear.

Some of these are in the <50% category (e.g. flat earth theory, didn't land on the moon) but several are in the > or close to 50% category (e.g. election conspiracy, which I forgot to mention, denial of man-made climate change, young earth theory, etc).    Opinion.   The term "Some of these" makes this clear.

mspart

[red viking]

18 minutes ago, mspart said:

Factual statement hunt
 

Many wingers have these beliefs, and the percentages skyrocket when you just look at the core MAGA wingers themselves.    Opinion only.   The term "many wingers"  makes this clear.

Some of these are in the <50% category (e.g. flat earth theory, didn't land on the moon) but several are in the > or close to 50% category (e.g. election conspiracy, which I forgot to mention, denial of man-made climate change, young earth theory, etc).    Opinion.   The term "Some of these" makes this clear.

mspart

I actually already provided a scientific study that demonstrated that wingers are much more likely to believe in conspiracy theories. Of course, your conspiracy theory that the entire scientific community has a "liberal bias" won't allow you to respect that study. 

[Caveira]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

This is exactly what I'm talking about. 100 people were arrested based upon slurs from probably one person. This is how pro-Israel radicalized we've become in this country. 

I don’t think that’s how it works my anti semite friend.    Maybe more than 1 was doing illegal stuff ?   Would that be possible?

[Scouts Honor]

2 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

They were blocking *all* students. You're either stupid or cynical.

so good enough to remove them either way right? 

[Scouts Honor]

2 hours ago, red viking said:

This appears to be a single-person. You see, this is what the wingers do. They find one person being anti-semitic and then extrapolate that to much larger groups including colleges themselves, just because it occurred there. 

You can't make this whackadoodle stuff up. 

you can't make up how blind you are to the many examples

[Scouts Honor]

2 hours ago, red viking said:

This is exactly what I'm talking about. 100 people were arrested based upon slurs from probably one person. This is how pro-Israel radicalized we've become in this country. 

i remember when  a nazi showed up to some conservative rally

it was branded a nazi rally

[Scouts Honor]

1 hour ago, red viking said:

Not even close. Many wingers have these beliefs, and the percentages skyrocket when you just look at the core MAGA wingers themselves. Some of these are in the <50% category (e.g. flat earth theory, didn't land on the moon) but several are in the > or close to 50% category (e.g. election conspiracy, which I forgot to mention, denial of man-made climate change, young earth theory, etc). 

not even close, you are right

many woke wingers have those beliefs

see what i did there

[Scouts Honor]

54 minutes ago, red viking said:

I actually already provided a scientific study that demonstrated that wingers are much more likely to believe in conspiracy theories. Of course, your conspiracy theory that the entire scientific community has a "liberal bias" won't allow you to respect that study. 

i have studies that show woke wingers are prone to violence

[jross]

2 hours ago, Scouts Honor said:

i have studies that show woke wingers are prone to violence

true, and more prone to mental issues

[Scouts Honor]

something i have never understood... how does blocking access to something... against anyone... help your cause?

you are protesting something.

so what.

what about that makes it a problem for me? why would you block a hiway, or access to buildings? 

you think average people are going to help you? 

you are going to alienate them. they have crap to do.

make your signs seen, but get the hell out of the way.

even going to the heads spaces may not help... b/c the people near them are now inconvenienced.

if you really want to make change. go somewhere and affect it, leave us alone.

stop whining about isreal.. go pick up a weapon and stand a post.

dig a tunnel. make a palywood video. 

get out of here.

[ionel]

4 hours ago, Scouts Honor said:

i have studies that show woke wingers are prone to violence

I here there's a new breed that rv might be part of - the dark woke wingers.