Poll: Who is Cael’s best PSU wrestler?

[peanut]

Who is it?

Polls here only allow 20 options so I did not extend the poll to ISU wrestlers (like Paulson and Varner).

[jammen]

Where's Nick Suriano?

[ionel]

Ono? 

[Caveira]

9 minutes ago, ionel said:

Ono? 

Imo ono is already a 4 timer.  

[CHROMEBIRD]

Gulibon

[peanut]

Zain having zero votes as of now is surprising.  3x champ, 2x Hodge winner (and eventual world champ)

[Scouts Honor]

paulsen and varner were not his recruits...

and several on the list were not either

like tank and wright

not sure if this matters...

[roguetrader]

PSU  CAEL ERA GOATS? Yikes. How about this way ?
 

Best technical wrestler ? == DT, Brooks or CStar there is case for each. Brooks #1 probably
Best craftsman on the fly == Nolf, MM maybe Ruth - Nolf wrestled in a parallel universe at times
Best in Beast Mode ? == Zain, Nickoll, Molinaro -- I'd never take down against Zain, nor would I survive 7 minutes of that.
Best Grinder? ===== Lee, Matt Brown, Zain maybe Kerk. Nick Lee just ground guys down until they were done in.
Best "harder I work, the luckier I get" wrestler == Cassar, Wright. Both inspiring stories. Cenzo too.

Share a foxhole with, or have my daughter bring home for Dinner? 1) Q Wright 2 ) M Hall

 

[billyhoyle]

My vote goes to the one who became a top 5 American wrestlers of all time. 

[roguetrader]

10 minutes ago, roguetrader said:

PSU  CAEL ERA GOATS? Yikes. How about this way ?
 

Best technical wrestler ? == DT, Brooks or CStar there is case for each. Brooks #1 probably
Best craftsman on the fly == Nolf, MM maybe Ruth - Nolf wrestled in a parallel universe at times
Best in Beast Mode ? == Zain, Nickoll, Molinaro -- I'd never take down against Zain, nor would I survive 7 minutes of that.
Best Grinder? ===== Lee, Matt Brown, Zain maybe Kerk. Nick Lee just ground guys down until they were done in.
Best "harder I work, the luckier I get" wrestler == Cassar, Wright. Both inspiring stories. Cenzo too.

Share a foxhole with, or have my daughter bring home for Dinner? 1) Q Wright 2 ) M Hall

 

Best for the PSU program overall ? - Tom Brands.

[lisa morales]

Jesus Christ

[Caveira]

6 hours ago, peanut said:

Zain having zero votes as of now is surprising.  3x champ, 2x Hodge winner (and eventual world champ)

The “five” timer having 2 says more imo.  

[jross]

Is MM better than Taylor was in college?

[pokemonster]

5 minutes ago, jross said:

Is MM better than Taylor was in college?

Nope, the original MagicMan was magnificence in action. Like watching art. Messenbrink is annoying af to watch. Looks like wrestling's equivalent of the movie Crank, where he's cranked up on addy and epo the whole time. 

[OH-IO]

10 minutes ago, jross said:

Is MM better than Taylor was in college?

IMO no, he's close .....i don't think Taylor wins 10 out of 10 times 

now if your referring to MM as "MAGIC MAN"  i guess MM is better than MM.....just having fun my friend (jross) I think Taylor is and will remain 1 step ahead of MM

[pokemonster]

6 hours ago, roguetrader said:

PSU  CAEL ERA GOATS? Yikes. How about this way ?
 

Best technical wrestler ? == DT, Brooks or CStar there is case for each. Brooks #1 probably
Best craftsman on the fly == Nolf, MM maybe Ruth - Nolf wrestled in a parallel universe at times
Best in Beast Mode ? == Zain, Nickoll, Molinaro -- I'd never take down against Zain, nor would I survive 7 minutes of that.
Best Grinder? ===== Lee, Matt Brown, Zain maybe Kerk. Nick Lee just ground guys down until they were done in.
Best "harder I work, the luckier I get" wrestler == Cassar, Wright. Both inspiring stories. Cenzo too.

Share a foxhole with, or have my daughter bring home for Dinner? 1) Q Wright 2 ) M Hall

 

Most natural wrestling skills that were tossed to the side === Bubba Jenkins

[jross]

Taylor’s career bonus rate is higher than MM’s current year, and Taylor frequently won by pin.

[Boring]

I didn't consider international achievements, just college achievements at PSU. If you count Sr level stuff the obvious answer is David Taylor. 

[peanut]

10 hours ago, Boring said:

I didn't consider international achievements, just college achievements at PSU. If you count Sr level stuff the obvious answer is David Taylor. 

Right. But if an athlete wins a world/Olympic medal within months of an NCAA season, I think that’s relevant. Brooks won an Olympic bronze immediately after his final NCAA season. I don’t think any of the others did that (if my memory is right) — of course Starocci and MM may pursue a world team this year. 

Edited Monday at 02:00 PM by peanut

[jross]

Research...

• Jason Nolf scored the most points across four NCAA tournaments. (98)
• Ed Ruth with most NCAA tournament wins (21)
• Ed Ruth with most wins in a career (136)
• Ed Ruth and David Taylor with most wins in a season (38)
• David Taylor scored the most points in a single NCAA tournament. (30.5)
• David Taylor with the most Gorriaran awards (2)
• David Taylor with the most Outstanding Wrestler awards (2)
• David Taylor with best senior level success (Olympic Champion)
• Zain Retherford had the season with the highest domination score (5.56) 
• Zain Retherford had the highest bonus rate over his career.
• Zain Retherford with the most dominant season awards (3)
• David Taylor and Zain Retherford with the most Hodge awards (2)
• Aaron Brooks and Carter Starocchi with the most titles over four seasons (4)
• Carter Starocchi with the most titles (5)
• Bo Nickal with the most pins in a season (18)
• Bo Nickal with the highest pin percentage in a season  (58% - 18 pins in 31 matches)
• Bo Nickal with the highest pin percentage in a career  (48% - 59 pins in 123 matches)
• Mitchell Mesenbrink with the most technical falls in a season (18)
• Mitchell Mesenbrink with the highest technical fall percentage in a season  (67% - 18 TF in 27 matches)
• Mitchell Mesenbrink with the highest technical fall percentage in a career  (51% - 27 TF in 53 matches)

In 2012, David Taylor was the first Penn State wrestler in 21 years to claim the Most Outstanding Wrestler Award.  Cael and David kicked off the dominant PSU run.

Best College Wrestler:

Zain Retherford takes the title. His 5.56 peak domination score (highest), 3 Most Dominant Awards (most), 3 NCAA titles, 2 Hodge Trophies, and 94-0 finish over three years reflect unmatched consistency and dominance.

David Taylor’s 30.5-point tournament, 2 MOW Awards, and 2 Gorriaran Awards are impressive, but his 2 titles and lower bonus rate place him behind.  One more title and David's legacy puts him into first place for college.

Carter Starocci’s 5 titles and total NCAA points are strong, but his lack of Hodge/MOW awards and lower bonus rate degrade his case.

Nolf’s 98 NCAA points and Ruth’s win totals are notable...

 

Best PSU Wrestler Overall:

David Taylor. His Olympic gold, World titles, and unparalleled senior-level success, paired with a stellar college career (30.5-point NCAA tournament, career points, 2 Hodge Trophies, 2 MOW Awards), make him the clear choice.

Zain Retherford’s college dominance is unmatched, but his senior-level career (1 World title, no Olympic medal) doesn’t compete with Taylor’s.

Aaron Brooks’ Olympic bronze is promising, but he’s early in his senior-level career compared to Taylor's legacy.  

[BloodRound]

Ok, but who is Cael's biggest bust?

[Wrestleknownothing]

A couple of minor edits:

Taylor scored 99 to Nolf's 98

Taylor's highest single tournament score was 29.5

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 minute ago, BloodRound said:

Ok, but who is Cael's biggest bust?

Suriano?

[Ragu]

When I think Penn State I think three headed monster in Nolf, Bo, and Zain. But I’m younger. Best college only guy is Zain no question. Utterly dominant. Best guy ever must be DT. Or may we consider Cael he IS Penn State. Even with him in consideration my answers don’t change

[Ragu]

5 minutes ago, BloodRound said:

Ok, but who is Cael's biggest bust?

Gulibon?