Trump Admin Shares War Plans w Journalist

[fishbane]

22 minutes ago, Caveira said:

The JG in the screen shot could be basic configuration.  (I’ve not used signal) but a lot of these collab tools will default to initials when showing a name.   Our zoom configuration does that for example.  

It's not really showing a name, but the photo.  The bubble with JG is the default in Signal if someone has not added a photo.  If the person only has filled in the first name field it will be a single letter their first initial.  If they have entered both a first and last name in Signal then it will be two letters, the first and last initial.  I think Michael Waltz likely entered "Michael Waltz" in the first name field which is why he only has an "M" in the bubble.  Jeffrey Goldberg likely had his name in the signal app as Jeffrey Goldberg which is why he had "JG", but that doesn't mean Waltz didn't have him saved in his phone as something else. 

[Caveira]

Just now, fishbane said:

It's not really showing a name, but the photo.  The bubble with JG is the default in Signal if someone has not added a photo.  If the person only has filled in the first name field it will be a single letter their first initial.  If they have entered both a first and last name in Signal then it will be two letters, the first and last initial.  I think Michael Waltz likely entered "Michael Waltz" in the first name field which is why he only has an "M" in the bubble.  Jeffrey Goldberg likely had his name in the signal app as Jeffrey Goldberg which is why he had "JG", but that doesn't mean Waltz didn't have him saved in his phone as something else. 

Super similar to zoom for example.  And teams.    Pointing out that the weird speculation that jg is there and that’s how he was added (looking for someone’s initials) is prolly random speculation. 

[fishbane]

20 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Super similar to zoom for example.  And teams.    Pointing out that the weird speculation that jg is there and that’s how he was added (looking for someone’s initials) is prolly random speculation. 

I think that's correct. It doesn't really say anything about how Goldberg's contact info was saved in Waltz's phone.  

[1032004]

1 minute ago, fishbane said:

I think that's correct. It doesn't really say anything about how Goldberg's contact info was saved in Waltz's phone.  

Yes, this.  Thank you for the Signal explanation, was not aware of that.  But Waltz mixing up the initials somehow from his phone still seems to be the most likely explanation 

[Wrestleknownothing]

DEI hire Pete Hegseth needs to go.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/20/us/politics/hegseth-yemen-attack-second-signal-chat.html

 

[Tripnsweep]

I'm still waiting to hear a winding explanation how this is acceptable or not a big deal but what people who happen to be Democrats did was worthy of going to prison. 

[Bigbrog]

6 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

I'm still waiting to hear a winding explanation how this is acceptable or not a big deal but what people who happen to be Democrats did was worthy of going to prison. 

I agree...regardless of the letter after your name people should be held accountable for their actions...I'll wait for you to hold this same standard to a D...and there have been plenty of times a D has done similar things with their electronic devices and you and your ilk were silent or defended the person.

[ionel]

16 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

DEI hire Pete Hegseth needs to go.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/20/us/politics/hegseth-yemen-attack-second-signal-chat.html

 

I don't have a $1 to read the Times but I did read the CBS article.  It did not reference any sources.  However it should be easy to prove if true and if so then he should be fired for endangering the pilots.  

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, ionel said:

I don't have a $1 to read the Times but I did read the CBS article.  It did not reference any sources.  However it should be easy to prove if true and if so then he should be fired for endangering the pilots.  

They do not name the sources but say it is "according to four people with knowledge of the chat.

Also from the article:

"Unlike the chat in which The Atlantic was mistakenly included, the newly revealed one was created by Mr. Hegseth. It included his wife and about a dozen other people from his personal and professional inner circle in January, before his confirmation as defense secretary, and was named “Defense | Team Huddle,” the people familiar with the chat said. He used his private phone, rather than his government one, to access the Signal chat.

The continued inclusion following Mr. Hegseth’s confirmation of his wife, brother and personal lawyer, none of whom had any apparent reason to be briefed on operational details of a military operation as it was getting underway, is sure to raise further questions about his adherence to security protocols."

[Scouts Honor]

hamas made the claim

[1032004]

8 hours ago, Bigbrog said:

I agree...regardless of the letter after your name people should be held accountable for their actions...I'll wait for you to hold this same standard to a D...and there have been plenty of times a D has done similar things with their electronic devices and you and your ilk were silent or defended the person.

Other than Hillary’s e-mails, can you share some of these examples?

[Caveira]

25 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

They do not name the sources but say it is "according to four people with knowledge of the chat.

Wait.  You didn’t say 4 people who had knowledge of the chat.  Hope they weren't “51 intelligence agents”…. That one ended well lol.  
 

Politically motivated press should be scrutinized.  

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Other than Hillary’s e-mails, can you share some of these examples?

Those 51 intel agents and that famous electronic device  

Edited Monday at 09:35 PM by Caveira

[1032004]

3 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Those 51 intel agents and that famous electronic device  

Not even remotely comparable 

[Caveira]

Just now, 1032004 said:

Not even remotely comparable 

Ya. That one lied to the American people so they could get more votes for their party to come into power against a guy they hated “a lot”.  So much different.   
 

now it’s.     ooooh shyte.  That thing wasaaaaaaaaaasssss real.  Crazy.  
 

the American people couldn’t know that before voting.   

[1032004]

Just now, Caveira said:

Ya. That one lied to the American people so they could get more votes for their party to come into power against a guy they hated “a lot”.  So much different.   
 

now it’s.     ooooh shyte.  That thing wasaaaaaaaaaasssss real.  Crazy.  
 

the American people couldn’t know that before voting.   

I thought the reference was to politicians  not using proper safety protocols with sensitive information on their devices.  Hunter Biden isn’t a politician.

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

9 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Wait.  You didn’t say 4 people who had knowledge of the chat.  Hope they weren't “51 intelligence agents”…. That one ended well lol.  
 

Politically motivated press should be scrutinized.  

Do you think a person who has a history of doing exactly what he is accused of doing, and just fired three people he accused of leaking information about what he has done, is more likely, or less likely to have done it more than once?

[Caveira]

4 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I thought the reference was to politicians  not using proper safety protocols with sensitive information on their devices.  Hunter Biden isn’t a politician.

 

Sure.  There were no links to Joe biden’s corruption… on that lap top.    money laundering…. And blatant lies to the American people.  Bla bla bla.

kangaroo court corruption while leftists kept their head in the sand and ignored it…. Cause I hate Trump.    

[Caveira]

Just now, Wrestleknownothing said:

Do you think a person who has a history of doing exactly what he is accused of doing, and just fired three people he accused of leaking information about what he has done, is more likely, or less likely to have done it more than once?

Due process only for illegal aliens!!!!! Viva la voting machine!

[1032004]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

Sure.  There were no links to Joe biden’s corruption… on that lap top.    money laundering…. And blatant lies to the American people.  Bla bla bla.

kangaroo court corruption while leftists kept their head in the sand and ignored it…. Cause I hate Trump.    

Did I miss the corruption charges against Biden?

[Caveira]

8 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Did I miss the corruption charges against Biden?

Yes.  You missed they said he he was to far gone from his dementia or Alzheimer’s or whatever he had …. At the same time the press.   His circle.   And all the people around them knew but lied and looked the other way.   You sure did.    Now they’re writing books on how bad he really was.   Politics sure are dirty boss.   On both sides of the aisle.  

[1032004]

57 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Yes.  You missed they said he he was to far gone from his dementia or Alzheimer’s or whatever he had …. At the same time the press.   His circle.   And all the people around them knew but lied and looked the other way.   You sure did.    Now they’re writing books on how bad he really was.   Politics sure are dirty boss.   On both sides of the aisle.  

Can you link me to the charges against him?  Thanks in advance

[Caveira]

9 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Can you link me to the charges against him?  Thanks in advance

I don’t feel like you’re serious or rational here.   So no.  

[1032004]

Just now, Caveira said:

I don’t feel like you’re serious or rational here.   So no.  

Because Joe Biden has not been charged with any crimes

[Caveira]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

Because Joe Biden has not been charged with any crimes

Cool cool boss.   Imma go eat some spaghetti with the kids.