Projected Line Ups 25/26

[flyingcement]

9 minutes ago, SunDevil said:

For ASU. I really am wanting to see what happens at 133 and 141. As well as 157 165 and 174. 
 

Kyler Larkin wrestled at 61kg this summer and Nico Ruiz at 70kg. Do they stay down at those weight for college. Jude Randall wrested 72kg. 
 

Where does that leave Kyler. Yas. Kaleb. Nico. And Jude. With holes and weaknesses.  The lineup is better with all the guys in there. 
 

 

Here is my guess.  Although if Kyler Larkin is able to make 133, that could be tempting.  Bauder looks to be no slouch himself - getting bonus on two D1 wrestlers last year while at Clackamas at the next weight class up.  Wonder if he can even make 133 comfortably.  

125: Ane'e Vigil
133: Gavin Bauder
141: Emiliio Ysaguirre / Kyler Larkin RS
149: Pierson Manville
157: Kaleb Larkin
165: Nico Ruiz
174: Leo Tukhlynovych
184: Aziz Fayzullaev
197: Max Acciardi
285: David Szuba

[nhs67]

9 hours ago, SunDevil said:

For ASU. I really am wanting to see what happens at 133 and 141. As well as 157 165 and 174. 
 

Kyler Larkin wrestled at 61kg this summer and Nico Ruiz at 70kg. Do they stay down at those weight for college. Jude Randall wrested 72kg. 
 

Where does that leave Kyler. Yas. Kaleb. Nico. And Jude. With holes and weaknesses.  The lineup is better with all the guys in there. 
 

 

Wow, missed this!

Kaleb is also in there.  A shame they appear to have three 157lbers.

[Antitroll2828]

Here is my guess for the fighting Tim Flynn’s of West Virginia 

125- RS Freshman Louie Gill (14-3 last year as a RS at nc state) 

133- Sr. Jett Strickenberger (2023 NJCAA national champ ,Big 12 champ, 2x NQ, R12 last year) lost in OT in ncaa quarterfinals and blood round, struggled at 133 last season 

141- Sr. Jordan Titus (3x NQ , 11-18 last year)

149- Sr. Willie McDougald ( 3x NQ, R16 in 2022, 21-8 last for Oklahoma)

157- RS Soph. Ty Watters ( NCAA 4th in 2024 , 6-0 last year with 2 wins over AAs before injury , should be considered a legit contender at 157 this year)

165- Either RS Sr - Caleb Dowling (9-7 at 157 last year) or RS Freshman Shawn Taylor (13-5 in redshirt last year )

174- RS Jr. Brody Conley ( 13-8 last year , injuried late in the season and med FF out of big 12s, NQ in 2024) 

184- RS Jr.- Ian Bush (NQ 21-13 up at 197 , beat 3 AAs total last season ) 

197- RS Fr. Rune Lawerence ( 18-7 as a redshirt last year) biggest recruit in the Flynn era and has a lot of expectations around him 

285- a black hole that will be filled with either RS Soph Wilson Spiries (4-10 last year, 9 of those loses by bonus) or True Freshman Brock Kehler…this weight will be a problem all year again , I know they went hard after Catka and a few other guys but West Virginia as a university has banned all big donors from donating to all sports other then football and men basketball so not much NIL money in Morgantown to bring in transfers 

[wrestlingfan22]

5 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

Here is my guess for the fighting Tim Flynn’s of West Virginia 

125- RS Freshman Louie Gill (14-3 last year as a RS at nc state) 

133- Sr. Jett Strickenberger (2023 NJCAA national champ ,Big 12 champ, 2x NQ, R12 last year) lost in OT in ncaa quarterfinals and blood round, struggled at 133 last season 

141- Sr. Jordan Titus (3x NQ , 11-18 last year)

149- Sr. Willie McDougald ( 3x NQ, R16 in 2022, 21-8 last for Oklahoma)

157- RS Soph. Ty Watters ( NCAA 4th in 2024 , 6-0 last year with 2 wins over AAs before injury , should be considered a legit contender at 157 this year)

165- Either RS Sr - Caleb Dowling (9-7 at 157 last year) or RS Freshman Shawn Taylor (13-5 in redshirt last year )

174- RS Jr. Brody Conley ( 13-8 last year , injuried late in the season and med FF out of big 12s, NQ in 2024) 

184- RS Jr.- Ian Bush (NQ 21-13 up at 197 , beat 3 AAs total last season ) 

197- RS Fr. Rune Lawerence ( 18-7 as a redshirt last year) biggest recruit in the Flynn era and has a lot of expectations around him 

285- a black hole that will be filled with either RS Soph Wilson Spiries (4-10 last year, 9 of those loses by bonus) or True Freshman Brock Kehler…this weight will be a problem all year again , I know they went hard after Catka and a few other guys but West Virginia as a university has banned all big donors from donating to all sports other then football and men basketball so not much NIL money in Morgantown to bring in transfers 

HWT is such a blackhole- do you think there is any chance Robin gets in the lineup again and they bump one of him, Bush or Rune to HWT (at least for some duals)? I know it would be a little crazy to do it for the year, but it might be their best chance of not giving up major bonus at HWT

[Winners Circle]

41 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

Here is my guess for the fighting Tim Flynn’s of West Virginia 

125- RS Freshman Louie Gill (14-3 last year as a RS at nc state) 

133- Sr. Jett Strickenberger (2023 NJCAA national champ ,Big 12 champ, 2x NQ, R12 last year) lost in OT in ncaa quarterfinals and blood round, struggled at 133 last season 

141- Sr. Jordan Titus (3x NQ , 11-18 last year)

149- Sr. Willie McDougald ( 3x NQ, R16 in 2022, 21-8 last for Oklahoma)

157- RS Soph. Ty Watters ( NCAA 4th in 2024 , 6-0 last year with 2 wins over AAs before injury , should be considered a legit contender at 157 this year)

165- Either RS Sr - Caleb Dowling (9-7 at 157 last year) or RS Freshman Shawn Taylor (13-5 in redshirt last year )

174- RS Jr. Brody Conley ( 13-8 last year , injuried late in the season and med FF out of big 12s, NQ in 2024) 

184- RS Jr.- Ian Bush (NQ 21-13 up at 197 , beat 3 AAs total last season ) 

197- RS Fr. Rune Lawerence ( 18-7 as a redshirt last year) biggest recruit in the Flynn era and has a lot of expectations around him 

285- a black hole that will be filled with either RS Soph Wilson Spiries (4-10 last year, 9 of those loses by bonus) or True Freshman Brock Kehler…this weight will be a problem all year again , I know they went hard after Catka and a few other guys but West Virginia as a university has banned all big donors from donating to all sports other then football and men basketball so not much NIL money in Morgantown to bring in transfers 

If I'm Tim Flynn and co. (and if I'm Strick for that matter), I'm cutting him back down to 125. He was a hair away from the podium and is a title threat at 125. At 133 he's shown to be much less than that. 

[nhs67]

3 minutes ago, Winners Circle said:

If I'm Tim Flynn and co. (and if I'm Strick for that matter), I'm cutting him back down to 125. He was a hair away from the podium and is a title threat at 125. At 133 he's shown to be much less than that. 

To be fair to Strick, I don't think we saw peak performance him at 133lbs last season.  I think he was intentionally light because he was on descent, which also means his strength/speed was going to be lacking.

I think 140lb Strick, cutting to 133lbs is much different.

[wrestlingfan22]

3 minutes ago, Winners Circle said:

If I'm Tim Flynn and co. (and if I'm Strick for that matter), I'm cutting him back down to 125. He was a hair away from the podium and is a title threat at 125. At 133 he's shown to be much less than that. 

I kind of agree, but I also get that it is just too much of a cut. He did pretty good at 61kg for u23s. He took 2nd and only lost to Nic Bouzakis. I think that if he takes the full offseason to fill out 133 and can avoid off-mat distractions, he will be much better at 133 than he was last year. I could see him making a midseason decision to go down to 125 if he feels that is a better spot for him

[Antitroll2828]

5 minutes ago, Winners Circle said:

If I'm Tim Flynn and co. (and if I'm Strick for that matter), I'm cutting him back down to 125. He was a hair away from the podium and is a title threat at 125. At 133 he's shown to be much less than that. 

I agree with you but from everything I’ve heard the plan is Gill 125 and Jett 133. It may be just too unhealthy for Jett to make that cut again for even half a season 

[Antitroll2828]

42 minutes ago, wrestlingfan22 said:

HWT is such a blackhole- do you think there is any chance Robin gets in the lineup again and they bump one of him, Bush or Rune to HWT (at least for some duals)? I know it would be a little crazy to do it for the year, but it might be their best chance of not giving up major bonus at HWT

For a couple duals yes I can imagine that scenario but not for the season, Runes development will be a big deal this season so risking bumping him up to heavyweight a bunch of times while trying to build his confidence at 197 is a tricky thing to balance…Who knows maybe Rune gains 40 pounds by October and fills the hole at 285 naturally 

 

I read a post awhile back on the West Virginia forum that mentioned it’s not 100 percent Robin will be back next season 

[Antitroll2828]

5 minutes ago, wrestlingfan22 said:

I kind of agree, but I also get that it is just too much of a cut. He did pretty good at 61kg for u23s. He took 2nd and only lost to Nic Bouzakis. I think that if he takes the full offseason to fill out 133 and can avoid off-mat distractions, he will be much better at 133 than he was last year. I could see him making a midseason decision to go down to 125 if he feels that is a better spot for him

Yea I agree , he definitely has the frame to build up into at true 133, I hope he’s really locked in for his last season and finally gets it done 

[wrestlingfan22]

9 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

For a couple duals yes I can imagine that scenario but not for the season, Runes development will be a big deal this season so risking bumping him up to heavyweight a bunch of times while trying to build his confidence at 197 is a tricky thing to balance…Who knows maybe Rune gains 40 pounds by October and fills the hole at 285 naturally 

 

I read a post awhile back on the West Virginia forum that mentioned it’s not 100 percent Robin will be back next season 

I agree about Rune, I think him being at 197 (if that is his best weight) is what is most important. Just curious how they balance that with HWT being how it is and if Robin does come back they would have 3 NQ level guys for 2 weight classes

[Antitroll2828]

9 minutes ago, wrestlingfan22 said:

I agree about Rune, I think him being at 197 (if that is his best weight) is what is most important. Just curious how they balance that with HWT being how it is and if Robin does come back they would have 3 NQ level guys for 2 weight classes

I think they’ll most likely bite the bullet at heavyweight and Robin will end up odd man out. Bush has shown alot of development and beat some really good guys last year up at weight I think he is a legit AA threat at 184 

[Gantry]

I agree that Strick will be much better at 133 this year compared to last, whole different ball game when you are not descending.  He was legit one of the biggest 125s I've ever seen, so I don't think adding size will be an issue at all.  

[Spladle]

Strickenberger needs to go 133. Feel he can be much more consistent there if he stays healthy and commits. 
 

Think he’d be an AA contender, though 133 is going to be tough this year. 

[TheJimReaper]

7 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said:

For a couple duals yes I can imagine that scenario but not for the season, Runes development will be a big deal this season so risking bumping him up to heavyweight a bunch of times while trying to build his confidence at 197 is a tricky thing to balance…Who knows maybe Rune gains 40 pounds by October and fills the hole at 285 naturally 

 

I read a post awhile back on the West Virginia forum that mentioned it’s not 100 percent Robin will be back next season 

Is he too small for heavyweight? I thought I remembered him bumping up last year and doing pretty well. 

[Antitroll2828]

3 minutes ago, TheJimReaper said:

Is he too small for heavyweight? I thought I remembered him bumping up last year and doing pretty well. 

Yea he wrestled the last 2 duals at heavyweight after Wolfgram blew out his knee , he did beat 2x NQ Sam Mitchell so he can compete at heavyweight but he was a top 15/20ish overall recruit and bumping up the highest rated recruit you may ever get isn’t the best long term strategy when 197 seems like his ideal weight for now , but who knows he was only 18 last year he could’ve had a growth spurt we don’t know about 

[flyingcement]

18 minutes ago, Spladle said:

Strickenberger needs to go 133. Feel he can be much more consistent there if he stays healthy and commits. 
 

Think he’d be an AA contender, though 133 is going to be tough this year. 

No kidding about 133.  Here is who is expected to be returning with wrestlestat starter ranking in parenthesis:

Two former champions:
2) Lucas Byrd (1st in 2025, R12 in 2023, 5th in 2022 and 2021)
Richard Figueroa (1st in 2024, National Qualifier in 2025)

Ten additional returning AAs:
1) Ryan Crookham (3rd in 2024)
3) Drake Ayala (2nd in 2025 and 2024, National Qualifier in 2022)
4) Zeth Romney (3rd in 2025, National Qualifier in 2024)
5) Zan Fugitt (4th in 2025)
9) Jacob Van Dee (7th in 2025, National Qualifier in 2024)
10) Evan Frost (6th in 2024, R12 in 2025)
11) Tyler Knox (8th in 2025)
13) Dylan Ragusin (5th in 2024, R12 in 2022, R16 in 2023, National Qualifier in 2021)
15) Dylan Shawver (7th in 2024, R12 in 2025, R16 in 2022)
32) Chris Cannon (7th in 2022 and 2021, National Qualifier in 2023)

Three Former Bloodrounders
12) Jett Strickenberger (R12 in 2025, National Qualifier in 2024)
27) Brett Ungar (R12 in 2023, R16 in 2024)
39) Zach Redding (R12 in 2023, National Qualifier in 2021)

Two Freshman Phenom
6) Marcus Blaze (true freshman phenom)
7) Ben Davino (redshirt freshman phenom)

That's two champions, twelve all-americans, three bloodrounders, two freshman phenom, and a partridge in a pear tree.  

[Antitroll2828]

4 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

No kidding about 133.  Here is who is expected to be returning with wrestlestat starter ranking in parenthesis:

Two former champions:
2) Lucas Byrd (1st in 2025, R12 in 2023, 5th in 2022 and 2021)
Richard Figueroa (1st in 2024, National Qualifier in 2025)

Ten additional returning AAs:
1) Ryan Crookham (3rd in 2024)
3) Drake Ayala (2nd in 2025 and 2024, National Qualifier in 2022)
4) Zeth Romney (3rd in 2025, National Qualifier in 2024)
5) Zan Fugitt (4th in 2025)
9) Jacob Van Dee (7th in 2025, National Qualifier in 2024)
10) Evan Frost (6th in 2024, R12 in 2025)
11) Tyler Knox (8th in 2025)
13) Dylan Ragusin (5th in 2024, R12 in 2022, R16 in 2023, National Qualifier in 2021)
15) Dylan Shawver (7th in 2024, R12 in 2025, R16 in 2022)
32) Chris Cannon (7th in 2022 and 2021, National Qualifier in 2023)

Three Former Bloodrounders
12) Jett Strickenberger (R12 in 2025, National Qualifier in 2024)
27) Brett Ungar (R12 in 2023, R16 in 2024)
39) Zach Redding (R12 in 2023, National Qualifier in 2021)

Two Freshman Phenom
6) Marcus Blaze (true freshman phenom)
7) Ben Davino (redshirt freshman phenom)

That's two champions, twelve all-americans, three bloodrounders, two freshman phenom, and a partridge in a pear tree.  

I can’t believe Ragusin, Ungar and cannon all have eligibility left , along with aj Ferrari they have to be approaching van wilder territory 

[Owen Rector]

I'll go for NC State's lineup:

125 Vince Robinson

133 Zach Redding

141 Ryan Jack

149 Koy Buesgens or Daniel Zepeda

157 Jackson Arrington

165 Will Denny

174 Matty Singleton

184 Rylan Breen or possibly TJ Stewart

197 Cason Howle

285 Isaac Trumble

There are a couple questions, especially 184-197 with both starters leaving. 149 could be either guy, but they will probably redshirt Zepeda.