Iowa just does not have the talent

[KennyEBHS]

Other than a couple of mercenaries and Ayala, they have mid-level talent. No matter how well the Brands coach them, they will still be middle-of-the-road talent.

[PortaJohn]

I'll bite....Nevermind

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

They have plenty of talent, it's just that almost all of it is bought with Nichols Bucks.  If you changed the title to "Iowa just does not have the HOMEGROWN talent" I would agree with you.

[ChickenWing]

Nick Saban said " it's not how much money you spend, you have to spend it on the right players?"

[One8alpha]

The coaching staff needs to be revamped.  They hold a standard for their wrestlers but not themselves.  Instead of developing, they get frustrated at their guys and go buy a replacement.  They need to hold that standard to themselves.  

[pokemonster]

More like they like to buy nice things and run em straight into the ground. It's like some idiot buying a new car every year and beating the hell out of it, then getting upset at the car when you have a beater. Rinse and repeat. 

[ionel]

Why aren't they buying some mercenary coaches?  Do they really need a Tom and a Terry?  Seems a little redundant.

[Spencerlee]

35 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

More like they like to buy nice things and run em straight into the ground. It's like some idiot buying a new car every year and beating the hell out of it, then getting upset at the car when you have a beater. Rinse and repeat. 

Woods, Eireman, Caliendo, Lugo, and Desanto all placed higher at Iowa than their previous school. Franck is the lone high profile transfer to not place higher and he still AAd.

[flyingcement]

Next year's roster:
 

125: Joey Cruz / Dru Ayala / Transfer Portal

133: Drake Ayala / Leo DeLuca (RS)

141: (I'd consider letting Ayala adding more muscle to his frame and starting DeLuca from day one at 133) / Transfer Portal

149: Victor Voinovich / Transfer Portal

157: Miguel Estrada

165: Mikey Caliendo

174: Patrick Kennedy

184: Angelo Ferrari

197: AJ Ferrari

285: Ben Kueter

I would guess Arnold will transfer out so that he doesn't have to ride the pine.

[Gus]

2 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Next year's roster:
 

125: Joey Cruz / Dru Ayala / Transfer Portal

133: Drake Ayala / Leo DeLuca (RS)

141: (I'd consider letting Ayala adding more muscle to his frame and starting DeLuca from day one at 133) / Transfer Portal

149: Victor Voinovich / Transfer Portal

157: Miguel Estrada

165: Mikey Caliendo

174: Patrick Kennedy

184: Angelo Ferrari

197: AJ Ferrari

285: Ben Kueter

I would guess Arnold will transfer out so that he doesn't have to ride the pine.

Deluca is little. He is a career 125 according to himself.

[flyingcement]

1 minute ago, Gus said:

Deluca is little. He is a career 125 according to himself.

Got it - so then he can fill in at 125.  But then 141 remains a question mark.

[Wrestleknownothing]

10 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Next year's roster:
 

125: Joey Cruz / Dru Ayala / Transfer Portal

133: Drake Ayala / Leo DeLuca (RS)

141: (I'd consider letting Ayala adding more muscle to his frame and starting DeLuca from day one at 133) / Transfer Portal

149: Victor Voinovich / Transfer Portal

157: Miguel Estrada

165: Mikey Caliendo

174: Patrick Kennedy

184: Angelo Ferrari

197: AJ Ferrari

285: Ben Kueter

I would guess Arnold will transfer out so that he doesn't have to ride the pine.

I am still cynical about AJ Ferrari's prospects for gaining entry to Iowa. Maybe pencil in the rumored Rocky Elam instead.

[ionel]

19 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Next year's roster:
 

125: Joey Cruz / Dru Ayala / Transfer Portal

133: Drake Ayala / Leo DeLuca (RS)

141: (I'd consider letting Ayala adding more muscle to his frame and starting DeLuca from day one at 133) / Transfer Portal

149: Victor Voinovich / Transfer Portal

157: Miguel Estrada

165: Mikey Caliendo

174: Patrick Kennedy

184: Angelo Ferrari

197: AJ Ferrari

285: Ben Kueter

I would guess Arnold will transfer out so that he doesn't have to ride the pine.

So have they offered Spencer the AD job? 

[Ragu]

Andrew Alirez will transfer out I bet

[One8alpha]

1 hour ago, Spencerlee said:

Woods, Eireman, Caliendo, Lugo, and Desanto all placed higher at Iowa than their previous school. Franck is the lone high profile transfer to not place higher and he still AAd.

Woods (4th) and Eireman (DNP) placed lower their last year.  

[MizzouFan01]

1 hour ago, Spencerlee said:

Woods, Eireman, Caliendo, Lugo, and Desanto all placed higher at Iowa than their previous school. Franck is the lone high profile transfer to not place higher and he still AAd.

I will give you everyone except Eireman. He went on rung up the ladder in placement each year. He would’ve finished 1/2 the year he lost to Lee either place, Mizzou or Iowa. The weight had cleared out so much that outside of Lee nobody was touching him. So to me, he’s a wash. He also had his worst finish at NCAAS at Iowa. 

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

Iowa's problem IS the coaching.

[Wrestleknownothing]

20 minutes ago, One8alpha said:

Woods (4th) and Eireman (DNP) placed lower their last year.  

Woods' 4th place finish was still higher than any he had at Stanford.

[AgaveMaria]

8 minutes ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Iowa's problem IS the coaching.

They are not yet at the level of frustration of John Smith.

He sure looked like a crabby old guy yelling "get the hell off my lawn" when he would watch a number of his wrestlers on the mat.

T&T still whoop it up and encourage them. Problem is, it is not working. They have the Gable legacy but have not moved past it because they don't have the Gable talent for coaching individuals.

[Wrestleknownothing]

16 minutes ago, MizzouFan01 said:

I will give you everyone except Eireman. He went on rung up the ladder in placement each year. He would’ve finished 1/2 the year he lost to Lee either place, Mizzou or Iowa. The weight had cleared out so much that outside of Lee nobody was touching him. So to me, he’s a wash. He also had his worst finish at NCAAS at Iowa. 

Not necessarily. Sebastian Rivera was right there with them.

[Saylors_Tiny_Willie]

Just now, AgaveMaria said:

They are not yet at the level of frustration of John Smith.

He sure looked like a crabby old guy yelling "get the hell off my lawn" when he would watch a number of his wrestlers on the mat.

T&T still whoop it up and encourage them. Problem is, it is not working. They have the Gable legacy but have not moved past it because they don't have the Gable talent for coaching individuals.

'Yelling at people to National Championships' isn't a thing.

T&T are way, way past their 'sell by' date.

[Spencerlee]

40 minutes ago, One8alpha said:

Woods (4th) and Eireman (DNP) placed lower their last year.  

Eireman tore his ACL in a dual against Chad Red that year. Woods still placed higher for the second year in a row over his years at Stanford.

[WrestlingRash]

3 hours ago, Spencerlee said:

Woods, Eireman, Caliendo, Lugo, and Desanto all placed higher at Iowa than their previous school. Franck is the lone high profile transfer to not place higher and he still AAd.

most AA guys do better each year. dumb point. 

[WrestlingRash]

2 hours ago, Saylors_Tiny_Willie said:

Iowa's problem IS the coaching.

sure is. they are idiots on the sideline and can't coach guys up. their schtick doesn't fly in 2025. they'd be great assistants. 

[Spencerlee]

22 minutes ago, WrestlingRash said:

sure is. they are idiots on the sideline and can't coach guys up. their schtick doesn't fly in 2025. they'd be great assistants. 

The Iowa coaches weren’t even in the top 5 most obnoxious staffs  at B1Gs.