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Posted
22 minutes ago, poorwrestler said:

Surprised Thompson isn’t already in the portal


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Honestly,

165 - Locket

174 - Facundo

184 - Ryder

197 - Thompson

285 - Merrill

That moves the dial for me.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Dogbone said:

This isn't how Friday afternoon new dumps are supposed to work....

What's wrong with a Good Friday?  🤠

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Posted
2 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Honestly,

165 - Locket

174 - Facundo

184 - Ryder

197 - Thompson

285 - Merrill

That moves the dial for me.

Merrill at 197 ... betting still portalling for 285. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, ionel said:

Merrill at 197 ... betting still portalling for 285. 

Yeah - Merrill is going 197.... R16 Doucet not going to cut it after a year in the room with WH? 

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Posted
Just now, Idaho said:

Yeah - Merrill is going 197.... R16 Doucet not going to cut it after a year in the room with WH? 

I'd bet his defense improved but he has little offense.  He could AA but if a better option pops up in the portal ... 

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, VakAttack said:

 they almost definitely did it.  

LOL. No need to be so vague, what exactly did those cheaters at PSU "almost definitely" do in this (as you call it) "classic Lance Armstrong situation," and what's your evidence? Surely there must be some objective basis to accuse impugn them and Welsh beyond Basch's premature call, no?

Looks to me that Welsh wanted to come so he came, which made Ryder want to leave so he left.  But clearly you are aware of some nefarious "poaching" going on so maybe you can lay it out for us?

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I'd bet his defense improved but he has little offense.  He could AA but if a better option pops up in the portal ... 

There are 2 returning AA’s and only 19 of 33 returning qualifiers at heavyweight next year. There might not be better than him in the portal.


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Posted
Just now, poorwrestler said:


There are 2 returning AA’s and only 19 of 33 returning qualifiers at heavyweight next year. There might not be better than him in the portal.


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That could very well be true and with a full year+ under DT and WH who knows he might impress.  

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Posted
3 minutes ago, ionel said:

I'd bet his defense improved but he has little offense.  He could AA but if a better option pops up in the portal ... 

Doucet would be right in that 6-R12 range to start the year. Top 6 guys in no particular order would be Bastida, Trumble, Ghadiali, Kueter, Feldman & Taylor. They would be a tier ahead of Doucet to start the year and he would be in the Mullen, Pitzer, Amos, Mirasola, Hopke, Attao, etc tier. 

Posted
13 minutes ago, Gus said:

Doucet would be right in that 6-R12 range to start the year. Top 6 guys in no particular order would be Bastida, Trumble, Ghadiali, Kueter, Feldman & Taylor. They would be a tier ahead of Doucet to start the year and he would be in the Mullen, Pitzer, Amos, Mirasola, Hopke, Attao, etc tier. 

but now who knows on Keuter?

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Posted
2 hours ago, Not creative name said:

as you said, the dude made all these life changing decisions and went all in for PSU.  but the moment there is some disturbance he shrivels up like a nut sack in cold weather and bolts out of town. turn some adversity into a positive!

he no doubt is mentally weak and doesn't handle setbacks well. not everybody is cut out to be the best.

Seems harsh.  The kid wants to start.  Maybe he has goals of being a 4x AA.  Is everyone who transfers because they want a better shot at starting "mentally weak"? He could think he'd win 3 of 4 against Welsh, but I'm guessing he's no dummy -- he knows he could also drop some against a NCAA runner-up.  

Personally I'd pick Ryder over Welsh.  Hope we see it next year.

Posted
1 minute ago, BAC said:

Seems harsh.  The kid wants to start.  Maybe he has goals of being a 4x AA.  Is everyone who transfers because they want a better shot at starting "mentally weak"? He could think he'd win 3 of 4 against Welsh, but I'm guessing he's no dummy -- he knows he could also drop some against a NCAA runner-up.  

Personally I'd pick Ryder over Welsh.  Hope we see it next year.

Could at the National Duals but Carl says no.  

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Posted
9 minutes ago, ionel said:

but now who knows on Keuter?

I spell a lot of things wrong but this was not one of them lol.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Gus said:

I spell a lot of things wrong but this was not one of them lol.

My spelling agrees with 50% of posters on this hear board.  Plus I think the new gentleman's agreement is you don't have to spell it correctly until they are national champs.  😉

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Posted
30 minutes ago, ionel said:

Could at the National Duals but Carl says no.  

Did he say no?  I know he's said that in the past but I saw they're trying to rekindle it. 

Posted
33 minutes ago, BAC said:

Did he say no?  I know he's said that in the past but I saw they're trying to rekindle it. 

"It’s sad that we think we have to have the National Duals to create a big event. I mean, we have a lot of really exciting teams, a lot of programs. So does that have to be at the National Duals? That just seems to be the mentality that they’re coming back [to] and it resurfaces all the time. I think there’s obviously some merit to the idea, but it’s just kind of like a broken record.”

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Posted
21 minutes ago, ionel said:

"It’s sad that we think we have to have the National Duals to create a big event. I mean, we have a lot of really exciting teams, a lot of programs. So does that have to be at the National Duals? That just seems to be the mentality that they’re coming back [to] and it resurfaces all the time. I think there’s obviously some merit to the idea, but it’s just kind of like a broken record.”

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, BAC said:

LOL. No need to be so vague, what exactly did those cheaters at PSU "almost definitely" do in this (as you call it) "classic Lance Armstrong situation," and what's your evidence? Surely there must be some objective basis to accuse impugn them and Welsh beyond Basch's premature call, no?

Looks to me that Welsh wanted to come so he came, which made Ryder want to leave so he left.  But clearly you are aware of some nefarious "poaching" going on so maybe you can lay it out for us?

I assume he means someone offered Welsh money in order to take his talents to State College.  Given the suddenness of him going in the portal then credible sources saying he was going to PSU.  Legal, but “almost definitely” true

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Posted
6 hours ago, Not creative name said:

as you said, the dude made all these life changing decisions and went all in for PSU.  but the moment there is some disturbance he shrivels up like a nut sack in cold weather and bolts out of town. turn some adversity into a positive!

he no doubt is mentally weak and doesn't handle setbacks well. not everybody is cut out to be the best.

What does this say about Rocco then? he left tOSU b.c of similar distrust with coaching staff / or adversity

Posted (edited)
32 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

I assume he means someone offered Welsh money in order to take his talents to State College.  Given the suddenness of him going in the portal then credible sources saying he was going to PSU.  Legal, but “almost definitely” true

No one here knows the full story.  You @VakAttack, etc do not have the actual details.  Another "rumor" out there was Tom told Rocco they'd have a talk when he got back from Aruba and that was the final straw.  @MPhillips or  @RandolphTJones who are dialed in on the tOSU might laugh at that for being absurd. 

I get that it's a forum and we're having fun but people are on here and other sites posting their theories as fact.  I was told Rocco reached out to PSU.  Is that true?  Don't know and don't care enough to dig further than that

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