How in the world did the government spending get so far off the tracks? In less than a month Elon will and his 20 year olds will pry 1 trillion dollars out of the politicians cold dead hands. will

[1032004]

1 hour ago, pokemonster said:

We all should've known Elon's true character when he tried that PR stunt with the Thai kids in the cave. Got so offended that his stupid ass submarine wouldn't fit in the cave that he lashed out and called the lead rescuer a pedophile. He continually tries to pretend to be an expert in things he knows nothing about and loses it when he's called out by actual experts. We all should've wrote him off as an egotistical idiot at that point who simply knows how to milk the most out of his engineers (while taking credit for himself), not a super genius trying to fix mankind. Before then, I actually really liked the guy. 

When was this?  I don’t recall this.

He’s definitely a genius and a great businessman but yeah he can’t be a genius in all fields.

The thing I dislike about him is his hypocrisy.  Most notably when he specifically said he wasn’t going to ban the account that tracked his plane and then did it anyway, and when he said x needed to be “politically neutral” but then confiscated the “America” handle to use to specifically support Republicans.

 

[pokemonster]

47 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Is he hitler yet.  I think it only registers on the left if you call them Hitler.   Until then it’s like comparing mild and extra extra sharp cheddar.  

You liked his Sieg Heil eh?? So incredibly BASED! 

[Scouts Honor]

wow you can make that connection

but  not to your own posts 

[pokemonster]

1 hour ago, Scouts Honor said:

wow you can make that connection

but  not to your own posts 

wow....

your posts.......... 

.... suck

[pokemonster]

2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

When was this?  I don’t recall this.

He’s definitely a genius and a great businessman but yeah he can’t be a genius in all fields.

The thing I dislike about him is his hypocrisy.  Most notably when he specifically said he wasn’t going to ban the account that tracked his plane and then did it anyway, and when he said x needed to be “politically neutral” but then confiscated the “America” handle to use to specifically support Republicans.

 

He's an insecure, vindictive lunatic... In the lawsuit, it came out the Musk paid $50K for a private investigator to look into the guy who dismissed his submarine and even personally emailed Buzzfeed stating that the guy was a child rapist. All because he said his submarine device wouldn't work. 

 https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddawkins/2019/10/09/elon-musk-brands-himself-an-idiot-in-thai-cave-rescue-defamation-lawsuit/ 

Edited February 18 by pokemonster

[Scouts Honor]

3 hours ago, pokemonster said:

wow....

your posts.......... 

.... suck

i thought you liked bjs

[pokemonster]

DOGE team of super geniuses at work again... Not only is the biggest purported contract they canceled in their tally $8 MILLION instead of the $8 BILLION they listed (small clerical error, eh?), none of this stuff even checks out. No wonder they didn't want actual CPAs or anybody with experience / ethics doing this - because they're reporting fake ass numbers.

What a joke. 

[Husker_Du]

lol. the cope w/ you guys. 

'they are saving us money'

'not enough!' 

[jross]

Always best to link the source and check yourself - https://doge.gov/savings

ALLISEEISWINS

[pokemonster]

1 hour ago, jross said:

Always best to link the source and check yourself - https://doge.gov/savings

ALLISEEISWINS

Clearly you haven't actually checked yourself. Take a look at the actual receipts in the "wall of receipts" maybe. 

What number is this? 

And when you click the link, what number does the receipt show? Here, I'll save you the trouble and link it for you. 

https://www.fpds.gov/common/jsp/LaunchWebPage.jsp?command=execute&requestid=239457440&version=1.5

Let me know what you think of that receipt Jross. Quite the win! Love the transparency. And that $8B alone is half of their reported savings when you add it up. Incompetence. 

Honestly, hard to make this shyte up it's so laughable. 

Edited February 18 by pokemonster

[mspart]

This is what I see with your fpds.gov link.

Yep, nothing, white screen.   Care to try again?

mspart

[Le duke]

I get that Elon is incomprehensibly rich but how does he not know that $8,000,000.00 is not eight billion dollars?


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[pokemonster]

10 minutes ago, mspart said:

This is what I see with your fpds.gov link.

Yep, nothing, white screen.   Care to try again?

mspart

Welp, they deleted it. It said $8million when it claimed $8billion. 

[Le duke]

Welp, they deleted it. It said $8million when it claimed $8billion. 

Here’s the one:




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[jross]

The progressive left is boxing their left into a suicide dance?

No!  Its dead.

[pokemonster]

31 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Here’s the one:




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As with everything else, they'll continue to ignore it. Can't reason somebody out of a stance they didn't reason themselves into in the first place. Blind followers. Sheep!

[jross]

2 hours ago, pokemonster said:

Clearly you haven't actually checked yourself. Take a look at the actual receipts in the "wall of receipts" maybe. 

What number is this? 

And when you click the link, what number does the receipt show? Here, I'll save you the trouble and link it for you. 

https://www.fpds.gov/common/jsp/LaunchWebPage.jsp?command=execute&requestid=239457440&version=1.5

Let me know what you think of that receipt Jross. Quite the win! Love the transparency. And that $8B alone is half of their reported savings when you add it up. Incompetence. 

Honestly, hard to make this shyte up it's so laughable. 

What's the fuss?

I made no reference to any specific example.

I said all is see is wins. Link after link of wins.

I don't care if a recorded piece of information was mistaken as $8B when its actually $8M.  Mistakes happen and will continue to happen given they strategically favor speed over accuracy.  It will be corrected in the data if not already.  

Saving $8M is a win.

Why did the mistake occur? 

Past versions of the contract listed on the Federal Procurement Data System was approved in Sept 2022 for the initial total value of $8 billion.  Jan. 22 this year, that figure was updated to $8 million.  Now it is cancelled.

• https://www.fpds.gov/ezsearch/jsp/viewLinkController.jsp?agencyID=7012&PIID=70CMSD22A00000008&idvAgencyID=&idvPIID=GS00F131DA&contractType=IDV

 

The DOGE website also says 

These specific listed contracts account for approx. 20% of overall DOGE savings.

Expect more mistakes to occur.

Come celebrate the wins with 90% of the public.

Edited February 19 by jross
corrected link

[1032004]

3 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

lol. the cope w/ you guys. 

'they are saving us money'

'not enough!' 

Us?  I agree it should be good for the country as a whole in the long-run but how much of this savings is the average person actually going to see? And be sure to include all the lost jobs as a negative in this calculation.

[jross]

2 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

Blind followers. Sheep!

[1032004]

12 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Us?  I agree it should be good for the country as a whole in the long-run but how much of this savings is the average person actually going to see? And be sure to include all the lost jobs as a negative in this calculation.

Well this would prove me wrong.  But I’ll believe it when I see it

 

 

 

[Le duke]

Well this would prove me wrong.  But I’ll believe it when I see it
 
 
 

The claimed or the actual savings?

Those are two VERY different numbers.

Turns out, a couple billion dollars divided among a couple hundred million taxpayers isn’t a lot of money.


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[jross]

8 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Well this would prove me wrong.  But I’ll believe it when I see it

Legendary economic stimulus and good will from the masses toward Republicans the 2028 election. 

Bad move that will spike inflation.  Surplus can go nowhere but to pay down the deficit.  Spending is a tax on us.

[jross]

6 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Us?  I agree it should be good for the country as a whole in the long-run but how much of this savings is the average person actually going to see? And be sure to include all the lost jobs as a negative in this calculation.

The current debt is 36T or about $100K of debt per person.  Taxes will continue to increase to service the debt.  Interest rates stay high and impact mortgage rates, car loans, personal credit, school loans, etc.  Inflation may stay above the baseline.  The government may reduce benefits, increasing costs by $500+ for citizens that would otherwise be provided by the government.

Assuming 2T flat deficit is added annually for the next 15 years, the 2024 debt per person will be about $200K.  You can double the impact above per citizen.  For a $300K mortgage, you can expect the next generation to pay $400+ more than you would today.

I expect cutting the work force to be a net economic positive as it was for Canada.

Canada cut their work force by 20% in the 90s (PM Jean Chretien), helping achieve a surplus, reduced debt and interest payments, helped economic growth.  Short term unemployment was mitigated by increase in private sector jobs.  

[RockLobster]

15 hours ago, Caveira said:

No one hated him when he was a democrat electric car making genius.   That’s weird no?   I have lefty friends that used to show off their Tesla’s back in the day and were so on Elon’s jock.  Now he’s the devil cause how dare he turn red.  

Why are you posters so dimwitted? Musk was never an electric car making genius. 

He was part of investment group that bought the Tesla company.

Musk isn't remotely close to being a genius.

But he was lucky enough to be born rich.

And likes to pretend he's far, far smarter than he actually is - something he and Trump have in common.

[1032004]

7 hours ago, jross said:

The current debt is 36T or about $100K of debt per person.  Taxes will continue to increase to service the debt.  Interest rates stay high and impact mortgage rates, car loans, personal credit, school loans, etc.  Inflation may stay above the baseline.  The government may reduce benefits, increasing costs by $500+ for citizens that would otherwise be provided by the government.

Assuming 2T flat deficit is added annually for the next 15 years, the 2024 debt per person will be about $200K.  You can double the impact above per citizen.  For a $300K mortgage, you can expect the next generation to pay $400+ more than you would today.

I expect cutting the work force to be a net economic positive as it was for Canada.

Canada cut their work force by 20% in the 90s (PM Jean Chretien), helping achieve a surplus, reduced debt and interest payments, helped economic growth.  Short term unemployment was mitigated by increase in private sector jobs.  

Meh, not saying it was anything positive that Biden did as he contributed to them getting so high in the first place, but interest rates had already started coming down prior to the election.

Thank you for sharing the Canada information, I don’t really follow their economy so am unfamiliar with what you’re referring to.  How long did it take between the “short term unemployment” and “increase in private sector jobs”?